Ross Branham wrote to Dave Drum <=-
I moved on to the Commode Door 64 after the TRaSh-80. A number of those are still in service (the motherboards anyweay) with NOAA reporting on tides and monitoring costal oceanographic data.
And one of the last remaining video rental companies in USA (Family
Video) ran their whole company on a Tandy 1000 using home brewed Linux software until their demise last year. It was head-quartered just a mile or so from my house
I would like to know what other old computers are being
used for daily business use. It's amazing to me that
they're still in use as old as they are.
Check many state agencis and school districts here in Illinois. One of
the guys I meet with monthly for pizza and beverage got his current gig w/Illinois Department on Aging because he can maintain and modify the
COCOL code running on their old Burroughs mainframe. Bv)=
Mike Powell wrote to DAVE DRUM <=-
I assume you mean COBOL? That is a skill that I also have. Here,
there are still state systems that run on an IBM mainframe. There are also one or two non-mainframe systems that include some PC-COBOL
modules.
Mike Powell wrote to DAVE DRUM <=-
Check many state agencis and school districts here in Illinois. One of
the guys I meet with monthly for pizza and beverage got his current gig w/Illinois Department on Aging because he can maintain and modify the
COCOL code running on their old Burroughs mainframe. Bv)=
I assume you mean COBOL? That is a skill that I also have. Here,
there are still state systems that run on an IBM mainframe. There are also one or two non-mainframe systems that include some PC-COBOL
modules.
I assume you mean COBOL? That is a skill that I also have. Here,
there are still state systems that run on an IBM mainframe. There are also one or two non-mainframe systems that include some PC-COBOL modules.
You know that the current elist bot is written in COBOL? That's why it
can't handle netmail requests.
Fat fingered that one, didn't I? Laszlo also does Fortran. Me, I haven't
done any coding since the Amiga took the gas pipe. And that was mostly
basic and some (very) simple assembler.
Mike Powell wrote to DAVE DRUM <=-
Fortran is one I never dabbled in. In college it was "sold" as more
for engineers. I did dable in PASCAL a little 30+ years ago. BASIC
also, and equally as long ago.
Mike Powell wrote to DAVE DRUM <=-
Fat fingered that one, didn't I? Laszlo also does Fortran. Me, I haven't done any coding since the Amiga took the gas pipe. And that was mostly
basic and some (very) simple assembler.
Fortran is one I never dabbled in. In college it was "sold" as more
for engineers. I did dable in PASCAL a little 30+ years ago. BASIC
also, and equally as long ago.
More recently (10 years) I took a class in Python. It was also meant
more for engineers, I later figured out.
COBOL is more straight-forward. Define all your variables, maintain structure for legibility, etc. For my brain, it made more sense.
Dave Drum wrote to Mike Powell <=-
Python is a "scripting" language which I never messed with.
was all aRexx - which could get as convoluted as Basic sometimes.
Sean Dennis wrote to Dave Drum <=-
Python is a "scripting" language which I never messed with.
Point of order: Python can also be compiled.
was all aRexx - which could get as convoluted as Basic sometimes.
I use Classic REXX (can be compiled under OS/2) and bash scripts all
the time under ArcaOS. My BBS and Micronet couldn't function properly without them!
I could write Pascal programs to do the work but that would add a lot
of unneeded overhead to all of those automated tasks.
I learned UCSD Pascal on a TRS-80 Model III in 1987 and still use
Pascal (Borland syntax) to this day.
I could learn to write in C--I can read C programs due to my Pascal background--but I have found that for me other languages suit me
better.
Though I am interested in learning to compile the elist COBOL code.
I've always had an interest in COBOL but never have had time to sit
down and learn it. That time might have finally arrived.
Me, I sell car parts at AutoZone amd cuss the kiddies at the home office
who constantly futz with the OS (in Linux) the we use on the terminals
at the counter. I really hate it when I try to access something that
used to was easy to get to and has been buried under layers of menus
and steps. Or hidden entirely and must be accessed by opening another
program - like the catalogs for lawnmowers/garden tractors aor ATVs
and motorcycles/scooters or the Heavy Truck stuff.
If AutoZone sells any of those "fart pipe" tailpipes, I hope you are not selling them to the kiddies who decide it is cool to put one on a Mustang.
If AutoZone sells any of those "fart pipe" tailpipes, I hope you are not selling them to the kiddies who decide it is cool to put one on a Mustang.
A what? I can't believe thats a real thing..
They restrict the flow of exhaust out of an engine so that the car sounds more like a motorcycle... very shrill and unpleasant.
Dave Drum wrote to Sean Dennis <=-
We had a bit of discussion on Cobol and Fortran at my computer guys
(and girls) get-together last night. The only one of us still working
with 'puters has his current position because he can maintain the code
in a State of Illinois mainframe used to run most of his agency. Bv)=
Me, I sell car parts at AutoZone amd cuss the kiddies at the home
office who constantly futz with the OS (in Linux) the we use on the terminals at the counter. I really hate it when I try to access
something that used to was easy to get to and has been buried under
layers of menus and steps. Or hidden entirely and must be accessed by opening another program - like the catalogs for lawnmowers/garden
tractors aor ATVs and motorcycles/scooters or the Heavy Truck stuff.
Unfortunately, a lot of programmers have very odd ideas about UI/UX (user eXperience) stuff. I've seen the UI at AZ before. IMNSHO, it's overly complicated.
Sean Dennis wrote to Dave Drum <=-
We had a bit of discussion on Cobol and Fortran at my computer guys
(and girls) get-together last night. The only one of us still working
with 'puters has his current position because he can maintain the code
in a State of Illinois mainframe used to run most of his agency. Bv)=
Job security is a good thing.
Me, I sell car parts at AutoZone amd cuss the kiddies at the home
office who constantly futz with the OS (in Linux) the we use on the terminals at the counter. I really hate it when I try to access
something that used to was easy to get to and has been buried under
layers of menus and steps. Or hidden entirely and must be accessed by opening another program - like the catalogs for lawnmowers/garden
tractors aor ATVs and motorcycles/scooters or the Heavy Truck stuff.
Unfortunately, a lot of programmers have very odd ideas about UI/UX
(user eXperience) stuff. I've seen the UI at AZ before. IMNSHO, it's overly complicated.
In my personal opinion the programmers should be required to work in a retail store for a year (optimistically) using the software before they are allowed to modify the look and feel.
Candy Cane wrote to Dave Drum <=-
In my personal opinion the programmers should be required to work in a retail store for a year (optimistically) using the software before they are allowed to modify the look and feel.
Yea, or having them mock-use it to see how cumbersome it is?
Oddly, they have set-up, at the headquarters complex a fully stocked demo-store where they try out parts placement before they issue a new plan-o-gram to all 7K+ stores. And the occasional faux-pas still gets published. And is corrected later.
Candy Cane wrote to Dave Drum <=-
Oddly, they have set-up, at the headquarters complex a fully stocked demo-store where they try out parts placement before they issue a new plan-o-gram to all 7K+ stores. And the occasional faux-pas still gets published. And is corrected later.
Oh that sounds cool. Do you use real food?
Probably because when they see the prices they are paying for their car parts - all appetite disappears. Bv)=
Me, I sell car parts at AutoZone amd cuss the kiddies at the home office who constantly futz with the OS (in Linux) the we use on the terminals at the counter. I really hate it when I try to access
In my personal opinion the programmers should be required to work in a retail store for a year (optimistically) using the software before they
Steve Wolf wrote to Dave Drum <=-
Me, I sell car parts at AutoZone amd cuss the kiddies at the home office who constantly futz with the OS (in Linux) the we use on the terminals at the counter. I really hate it when I try to access
In my personal opinion the programmers should be required to work in a retail store for a year (optimistically) using the software before they
Yeah, I agree. NAPA had the same type of System. Categories were a nightmare. Oil filters came under Tuneups and that sort of
thing.
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