• Towing the Line [1]

    From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Friday, July 26, 2024 09:55:19
    Hi Dave,

    We're tlking about druggies, derelicts and other free-lance anarchists here.

    They don't frequent our part of town.

    At least not the obvious ones.

    True, may be some but well hidden.

    time it's left alone, no matter how long or short a time. We don't have
    a handicap tag (yet) but will probably end up with one eventually.

    I've had one for years - and they do make it convenient. Especially as
    the curbside spots are usually ramped. And I have trouble with curbs - both up and down - unless I have my cane or there is something to hold
    on to to keep me steady. This getting old lark is not for wusses.

    Meanwhile, our fig tree is beginning its summer time bonanza out put.
    I'll probably make some preserves again this year; we've been giving

    My grandparents had apple, cherry, apricot, paw-pae and crabapple
    trees in the back yard of their town home. And a regular orchard at
    the farm
    with more apples, peaches, cherries, pears and blackberry brables as
    well as raspberries on the other side of the orhard. Gooseberies and
    May apples were available in the woods.

    So putting up was a big production in the summer. Steve had a bowl full
    (about 2 1/2 quarts) in the fridge so yesterday he pulled out the
    dehydrator. Dried them down to maybe about 2 cups. We'll probably do
    another batch or 2 in the dehydrator before the tree ends production, in probably early September.


    I'm 82 years old and I have never had a fresh fig. I'll have to
    correct that lack ..... I've only ever eaten Fig Newtons from a store bought pkg.

    They are good; a Newton will give you a bit of the taste but nothing
    like eating one fresh off the tree. Rinsed but still warm from the sun.

    I'll ask the folks down Jeffries Orchard farm stand about the availability.

    Do so, it's an ancient fruit; I think more popular in the southern US
    than the northern. Fig preserves and a brie type cheese on a cracker
    make a nice nibble. Last year when we took some preserves out to our
    daughters, I told the grand kids that these were special, for their mothers,(mom was to share), not to be used like regular jelly/jam for
    pb&j or whatever.


    I had a cherry tree in my front yard until the derecho winds hit last July.

    My parents had one for years, until a storm did it in. It happened just
    before we came up for a visit so Steve saved some of the wood for his
    smoker.

    A quick trip to the search engine tells me that fiss will not
    dowell DD> in my groqing zone without lots of special help. Which may
    'splain DD> why they're not common around here.

    And we're in a great spot for them. Steve planted another tree to be
    last year so in a few years we'll have a super abundance of them.

    From my research they aren't huge trees like maples or oaks.

    No, more like a bush. BTW, I was informed that the 2nd tree didn't make
    it so we only have to one, but a very prolific one.


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Carol Shenkenberger@1:275/100 to Ruth Haffly on Saturday, July 27, 2024 13:07:11
    Re: Towing the Line [1]
    By: Ruth Haffly to Dave Drum on Fri Jul 26 2024 09:55 am

    Hi Dave,

    We're tlking about druggies, derelicts and other free-lance anarchists here.

    They don't frequent our part of town.

    At least not the obvious ones.

    True, may be some but well hidden.

    time it's left alone, no matter how long or short a time. We don't have a handicap tag (yet) but will probably end up with one eventually.

    I've had one for years - and they do make it convenient. Especially as the curbside spots are usually ramped. And I have trouble with curbs - both up and down - unless I have my cane or there is something to hold on to to keep me steady. This getting old lark is not for wusses.

    Meanwhile, our fig tree is beginning its summer time bonanza out put. I'll probably make some preserves again this year; we've been giving

    My grandparents had apple, cherry, apricot, paw-pae and crabapple
    trees in the back yard of their town home. And a regular orchard at
    the farm
    with more apples, peaches, cherries, pears and blackberry brables as well as raspberries on the other side of the orhard. Gooseberies and May apples were available in the woods.

    So putting up was a big production in the summer. Steve had a bowl full (about 2 1/2 quarts) in the fridge so yesterday he pulled out the dehydrator. Dried them down to maybe about 2 cups. We'll probably do
    another batch or 2 in the dehydrator before the tree ends production, in probably early September.


    I'm 82 years old and I have never had a fresh fig. I'll have to
    correct that lack ..... I've only ever eaten Fig Newtons from a store bought pkg.

    They are good; a Newton will give you a bit of the taste but nothing like eating one fresh off the tree. Rinsed but still warm from the sun.

    I'll ask the folks down Jeffries Orchard farm stand about the availability.

    Do so, it's an ancient fruit; I think more popular in the southern US
    than the northern. Fig preserves and a brie type cheese on a cracker
    make a nice nibble. Last year when we took some preserves out to our daughters, I told the grand kids that these were special, for their mothers,(mom was to share), not to be used like regular jelly/jam for
    pb&j or whatever.


    I had a cherry tree in my front yard until the derecho winds hit last July.

    My parents had one for years, until a storm did it in. It happened just before we came up for a visit so Steve saved some of the wood for his smoker.

    A quick trip to the search engine tells me that fiss will not
    dowell DD> in my groqing zone without lots of special help. Which may
    'splain DD> why they're not common around here.

    And we're in a great spot for them. Steve planted another tree to be last year so in a few years we'll have a super abundance of them.

    From my research they aren't huge trees like maples or oaks.

    No, more like a bush. BTW, I was informed that the 2nd tree didn't make
    it so we only have to one, but a very prolific one.



    Figs love VB! Tons of them here. Fig farming has become 'a thing'. I often trade apples for them.

    This years apple crop looks to be 1.5 bushels. I'm going to practice making apple cider. I'm all setup now for it.

    xxcarol
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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Carol Shenkenberger on Sunday, July 28, 2024 05:49:41
    Carol Shenkenberger wrote to Ruth Haffly <=-

    A quick trip to the search engine tells me that fiss will not
    do well in my groqing zone without lots of special help. Which
    may 'splain why they're not common around here.

    And we're in a great spot for them. Steve planted another tree to be last year so in a few years we'll have a super abundance of them.

    From my research they aren't huge trees like maples or oaks.

    No, more like a bush. BTW, I was informed that the 2nd tree didn't make
    it so we only have to one, but a very prolific one.

    Figs love VB! Tons of them here. Fig farming has become 'a thing'. I often trade apples for them.

    Izzat the juice? Or something else. If it's the juice - do you drink it
    whilst munching a fig? ? Or use it to help the plant grow? Or .... ?

    This years apple crop looks to be 1.5 bushels. I'm going to practice making apple cider. I'm all setup now for it.

    Fresh squoze, unfiltered cider is a most excellent thing. I pick some
    up every fall from the Apple Barn (orchard farm stand) to make this:

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Hot Apple Cider
    Categories: Five, Beverages, Fruits
    Yield: 8 Servings

    1/2 ga Cloudy apple juice (cider)
    4 (1") cinnamon sticks
    1/2 ts Ground cinnamon
    1/4 ts Nutmeg
    6 Whole cloves

    In a saucepan, bring all the ingredients to a boil,
    reduce heat and simmer for about ten minutes.

    Strain the spices before serving. Enjoy

    ALTERNATE VERSIONS: You can add a slice orange to the
    pot for a citrus twist. OPTIONAL: add some rum before
    serving.

    NOTES: I first experienced this at Lincoln's New Salem
    Historical Site during the annual "Christmas at New
    Salem" put on by the Illinois Historic Preservation
    Agency. It was served by ladies from the Springfield
    Junior League in period dress - at the Rutledge Tavern

    It was like drinking a slice of apple pie. I was so
    hooked on it that I hung about and cadged the recipe.
    This is a reduction in quantity version. But otherwise
    true to the bone.

    RECIPE FROM: Junior League of Springfield (IL)

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

    MMMMM

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Carol Shenkenberger on Sunday, July 28, 2024 19:53:31
    Hi Carol,


    A quick trip to the search engine tells me that fiss will not
    dowell DD> in my groqing zone without lots of special help. Which may
    'splain DD> why they're not common around here.

    And we're in a great spot for them. Steve planted another tree to be last year so in a few years we'll have a super abundance of them.

    From my research they aren't huge trees like maples or oaks.

    No, more like a bush. BTW, I was informed that the 2nd tree didn't make
    it so we only have to one, but a very prolific one.



    Figs love VB! Tons of them here. Fig farming has become 'a thing'.
    I often trade apples for them.

    We don't have enough to farm (the newer tree didn't make it so just have
    the one) but the one tree we have is quite prolific. So far we've
    dehydrated several pounds of figs, with more to come. Maybe ought to
    take some to the farmer's market and do some bartering.

    This years apple crop looks to be 1.5 bushels. I'm going to
    practice CS> making apple cider. I'm all setup now for it.

    Sounds good to me. My parents had several apple trees. One year when he
    was in a nearby college, my sister's son came over with several of his classmates to make cider. IIRC, they were able to make several gallons, splitting the yield so some went back to the college, some stayed with
    my parents.


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


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  • From Carol Shenkenberger@1:275/100 to Dave Drum on Monday, July 29, 2024 14:20:52
    Re: Fig It! was: Towing the Line
    By: Dave Drum to Carol Shenkenberger on Sun Jul 28 2024 05:49 am

    Carol Shenkenberger wrote to Ruth Haffly <=-

    A quick trip to the search engine tells me that fiss will not
    do well in my groqing zone without lots of special help. Which
    may 'splain why they're not common around here.

    And we're in a great spot for them. Steve planted another tree to be last year so in a few years we'll have a super abundance of them.

    From my research they aren't huge trees like maples or oaks.

    No, more like a bush. BTW, I was informed that the 2nd tree didn't make it so we only have to one, but a very prolific one.

    Figs love VB! Tons of them here. Fig farming has become 'a thing'. I often trade apples for them.

    Izzat the juice? Or something else. If it's the juice - do you drink it whilst munching a fig? ? Or use it to help the plant grow? Or .... ?

    This years apple crop looks to be 1.5 bushels. I'm going to practice making apple cider. I'm all setup now for it.

    Fresh squoze, unfiltered cider is a most excellent thing. I pick some
    up every fall from the Apple Barn (orchard farm stand) to make this:

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Hot Apple Cider
    Categories: Five, Beverages, Fruits
    Yield: 8 Servings

    1/2 ga Cloudy apple juice (cider)
    4 (1") cinnamon sticks
    1/2 ts Ground cinnamon
    1/4 ts Nutmeg
    6 Whole cloves

    In a saucepan, bring all the ingredients to a boil,
    reduce heat and simmer for about ten minutes.

    Strain the spices before serving. Enjoy

    ALTERNATE VERSIONS: You can add a slice orange to the
    pot for a citrus twist. OPTIONAL: add some rum before
    serving.

    NOTES: I first experienced this at Lincoln's New Salem
    Historical Site during the annual "Christmas at New
    Salem" put on by the Illinois Historic Preservation
    Agency. It was served by ladies from the Springfield
    Junior League in period dress - at the Rutledge Tavern

    It was like drinking a slice of apple pie. I was so
    hooked on it that I hung about and cadged the recipe.
    This is a reduction in quantity version. But otherwise
    true to the bone.

    RECIPE FROM: Junior League of Springfield (IL)

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

    MMMMM

    ... Celibacy is not hereditary.

    Yup! Fresh apple cider for drinking. If I get a lot, I may reduce some on the stovetop and freeze that in ice cube trays for later consumption. Should be good!

    xxcarol
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  • From Carol Shenkenberger@1:275/100 to Ruth Haffly on Monday, July 29, 2024 14:33:25
    Re: Towing the Line [1]
    By: Ruth Haffly to Carol Shenkenberger on Sun Jul 28 2024 07:53 pm

    Hi Carol,


    A quick trip to the search engine tells me that fiss will not
    dowell DD> in my groqing zone without lots of special help. Which m
    'splain DD> why they're not common around here.

    And we're in a great spot for them. Steve planted another tree to be last year so in a few years we'll have a super abundance of them.

    From my research they aren't huge trees like maples or oaks.

    No, more like a bush. BTW, I was informed that the 2nd tree didn't make it so we only have to one, but a very prolific one.



    Figs love VB! Tons of them here. Fig farming has become 'a thing'.
    I often trade apples for them.

    We don't have enough to farm (the newer tree didn't make it so just have
    the one) but the one tree we have is quite prolific. So far we've
    dehydrated several pounds of figs, with more to come. Maybe ought to
    take some to the farmer's market and do some bartering.

    This years apple crop looks to be 1.5 bushels. I'm going to
    practice CS> making apple cider. I'm all setup now for it.

    Sounds good to me. My parents had several apple trees. One year when he
    was in a nearby college, my sister's son came over with several of his classmates to make cider. IIRC, they were able to make several gallons, splitting the yield so some went back to the college, some stayed with
    my parents.



    Sounds like a plan for my apple cider! I won't try to ferment it, but next year might, For now, I don't have containers to do that properly.

    xxcarol
    --- SBBSecho 2.11-Win32
    * Origin: Shenks Express (1:275/100)
  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Carol Shenkenberger on Tuesday, July 30, 2024 06:11:00
    Carol Shenkenberger wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Fresh squoze, unfiltered cider is a most excellent thing. I pick some
    up every fall from the Apple Barn (orchard farm stand) to make this:

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Hot Apple Cider
    Categories: Five, Beverages, Fruits
    Yield: 8 Servings

    ... Celibacy is not hereditary.

    Yup! Fresh apple cider for drinking. If I get a lot, I may reduce
    some on the stovetop and freeze that in ice cube trays for later consumption. Should be good!

    Here's on of my fvourite uses for apples. I'll abandon a slice of apple
    pie for this:

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Arby's Pecan Chicken Salad Sandwich
    Categories: Poultry, Fruits, Nuts, Vegetables, Breads
    Yield: 4 sandwiches

    1 c Diced red apple
    1 tb Lemon juice
    2 1/2 c Grilled chicken breast; in
    - cubes
    1 c Halved seedless grapes
    1/2 c Chopped celery
    1 c Chopped pecans
    1/2 c (to 3/4 c) mayonnaise
    salt & pepper
    Lettuce leaves; opt
    Thick-sliced wheat bread

    Place the diced apples in a medium-sized bowl. Add one
    tablespoon of lemon juice and stir to coat the apples to
    prevent them from turning brown.

    Add the chicken, grapes, celery, and pecans to the bowl
    and mix well.

    Add 1/2 cup mayonnaise and stir to combine. If the
    mixture is too dry you can add another 1/4 cup of
    mayonnaise. Season with salt and pepper to taste.

    Allow the flavors to marry in a covered bowl in the
    refrigerator for about 1 hour before serving.

    If you would like to serve the chicken salad as a
    sandwich, place about 1 cup of chicken salad and a few
    lettuce leaves between two thick slices of wheat bread.

    UDD NOTE: I use Cosmic Crisp or Honey Crisp apples. You
    can use whatever suits you.

    Author: Stephanie Manley

    RECIPE FROM: https://copykat.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

    MMMMM

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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Wednesday, July 31, 2024 06:30:00
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    My grandmother had bonanza amounts of fruits preserves, jams, jellies
    and both peach and apple "butters". But the big production was
    pickling the cucumbers. She made Virginia Chunk, Bread & Butter,
    Dill, and with the little guys - Senf Gherkins. When she closed
    the house to move to assisted living I had an antique dealer drop
    by and make a bid on her stoneware crocks (up to 10 gallons) glass
    jars, etc. As well as the old laundry stove in the basement. He
    added almost 10K to her bank account and amazed her. She had no
    idea "that old junk" was worth anythng.

    One man's junk is another man's treasure. Just to be on the safe
    side, I'd probabbly not buy/use old canning jars for putting up,
    might buy one or two crocks tho. My mom used to store her Christmas
    baking in a stoneware crock so some years ago I asked my brother
    about the possibility of getting one. He said that they (she had
    2 or 3) were all cracked or broken so he'd thrown then out. Sigh!

    I think this was mostly for the antique value. She even had gallon size
    Ball Mason jars w/glass lids. The gaskets were pretty much crumbled to
    dust. But, still ......

    8<----- HACK ----->8

    Probably because the fig trees do not do well in the Northern climate zones. I did some readig on what it takes to have a successful fig
    crop in my area. YIKES!!! I'll buy figs that have been shipped in,
    Thenkew veddy much. Bv)=

    That's OK. If we ever get out that way, I can drop off either some
    dried figs or preserves in the off season, fresh figs in July/August.

    That's a wonderful offer.

    Just have to figure out when we'll be out that way. Do need to visit
    the Chicago Public Library and make a donation of some of my great grandfather's papers to add to their collection of his.

    I nearly bought a smoker - but, the "reality" side of my brain said, "You'll buy. Set it up. Use it once or twice than spend the rest of
    you life dusting it and working around it." So, I passed. I do have a charcoal grill w/offset fire box that I can use to smoke stuff if I
    care to. I find, though, that the older I get the less time I spend in
    my tiny kitchen.

    Understandable; our kitchen is bigger but I usually don't spend hours
    in it. Got to have Steve finish moving some stuff to his new shed and finish the indoor work on the new (2021) windows so I can rehang the curtains.

    I just got a letter from a realtor wanting to know if I'd consider
    selling my house. Seems (he says) he has an "interested, motivated
    buyer".

    As if! This is the first house I've ever owned and it will be the last.
    My will gives my housemate lifetime tenancy then the house goes to the
    local Habitat for Humanity for their affordable housing program.

    Title: Senf Gherkins
    Categories: Squash, Preserving, Pickles
    Yield: 7 Pints

    5 qt Cucumbers or Gherkins; 1 1/2
    - to 3 inches length
    1/2 c Salt
    8 c Sugar
    6 c Vinegar
    3/4 ts Turmeric
    2 ts Celery seed
    2 ts Whole mixed pickling spices
    8 (1") sticks cinnamon
    1/2 ts Fennel; opt
    2 ts Vanilla; opt

    Where's the mustard? Senf is German for mustard.

    I did not kow that. But, here's some pickling spice - the lead call is
    for ..... mustard seed.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Homemade Pickling Spice
    Categories: Spices, Herbs, Preserving
    Yield: 1 /3 cup

    2 tb Mustard seed
    1 tb Whole allspice
    2 ts Coriander seeds
    2 Whole cloves
    1 ts Ground ginger
    1 ts Crushed red pepper flakes
    1 Bay leaf; crumbled
    1 2" cinnamon stick

    Combine all ingredients and store in an airtight jar or
    container. Use in favorite pickle recipes.

    Olivia Miller, Memphis, Tennessee

    Makes: 1/3 cup

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.tasteofhome.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Carol Shenkenberger on Tuesday, July 30, 2024 13:14:57
    Hi Carol,

    Figs love VB! Tons of them here. Fig farming has become 'a thing'.
    I often trade apples for them.

    We don't have enough to farm (the newer tree didn't make it so just have
    the one) but the one tree we have is quite prolific. So far we've
    dehydrated several pounds of figs, with more to come. Maybe ought to
    take some to the farmer's market and do some bartering.

    This years apple crop looks to be 1.5 bushels. I'm going to
    practice CS> making apple cider. I'm all setup now for it.

    Sounds good to me. My parents had several apple trees. One year when he
    was in a nearby college, my sister's son came over with several of his classmates to make cider. IIRC, they were able to make several gallons, splitting the yield so some went back to the college, some stayed with
    my parents.

    Sounds like a plan for my apple cider! I won't try to ferment it, but next year might, For now, I don't have containers to do that
    properly.

    Do you have space in your freezer? Cider does freeze well, just have to
    make sure you leave some head room. That way you can enjoy last year's
    batch when the trees are blooming for this year's crop. (G)


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


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  • From Carol Shenkenberger@1:275/100 to Ruth Haffly on Wednesday, July 31, 2024 16:21:33
    Re: Towing the Line [1]
    By: Ruth Haffly to Carol Shenkenberger on Tue Jul 30 2024 01:14 pm

    Hi Carol,

    Figs love VB! Tons of them here. Fig farming has become 'a thing'. I often trade apples for them.

    We don't have enough to farm (the newer tree didn't make it so just have the one) but the one tree we have is quite prolific. So far we've dehydrated several pounds of figs, with more to come. Maybe ought to
    take some to the farmer's market and do some bartering.

    This years apple crop looks to be 1.5 bushels. I'm going to
    practice CS> making apple cider. I'm all setup now for it.

    Sounds good to me. My parents had several apple trees. One year when he was in a nearby college, my sister's son came over with several of his classmates to make cider. IIRC, they were able to make several gallons, splitting the yield so some went back to the college, some stayed with
    my parents.

    Sounds like a plan for my apple cider! I won't try to ferment it, but next year might, For now, I don't have containers to do that
    properly.

    Do you have space in your freezer? Cider does freeze well, just have to
    make sure you leave some head room. That way you can enjoy last year's
    batch when the trees are blooming for this year's crop. (G)



    Thats problematic. I'm shy of space in the frezer!

    xxcarol
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Wednesday, July 31, 2024 14:25:02
    Hi Dave,

    Dill, and with the little guys - Senf Gherkins. When she closed
    the house to move to assisted living I had an antique dealer drop
    by and make a bid on her stoneware crocks (up to 10 gallons) glass
    jars, etc. As well as the old laundry stove in the basement. He
    added almost 10K to her bank account and amazed her. She had no
    idea "that old junk" was worth anythng.

    One man's junk is another man's treasure. Just to be on the safe
    side, I'd probabbly not buy/use old canning jars for putting up,
    might buy one or two crocks tho. My mom used to store her Christmas
    baking in a stoneware crock so some years ago I asked my brother
    about the possibility of getting one. He said that they (she had
    2 or 3) were all cracked or broken so he'd thrown then out. Sigh!

    I think this was mostly for the antique value. She even had gallon
    size Ball Mason jars w/glass lids. The gaskets were pretty much
    crumbled to dust. But, still ......

    Probably could have found replacement gaskets at Amish/Mennonite stores.
    My mom had some canning jars with the glass & rubber gasket lids, don't
    know where/when she got them but always managed to find the rubber
    rings. Most of her jars were like all of mine, with the metal screw band
    and lid; I've probably gone thru hundreds of lids in my canning
    lifetime.

    8<----- HACK ----->8

    That's OK. If we ever get out that way, I can drop off either some
    dried figs or preserves in the off season, fresh figs in July/August.

    That's a wonderful offer.

    Just have to figure out when we'll be out that way. Do need to visit
    the Chicago Public Library and make a donation of some of my great grandfather's papers to add to their collection of his.

    I nearly bought a smoker - but, the "reality" side of my brain said, "You'll buy. Set it up. Use it once or twice than spend the rest of
    you life dusting it and working around it." So, I passed. I do have a charcoal grill w/offset fire box that I can use to smoke stuff if I
    care to. I find, though, that the older I get the less time I spend in
    my tiny kitchen.

    Steve found one on the side of the road when we were in AZ. It was a
    charcoal one, no instructions and most everything he tried was heavy on
    the charcoal and smoke flavors. That stayed in AZ when we went to HI and
    he got a (new) gas smoker. He was more successful with that so has kept smoking, with gas and/or electric. Found an egg shape (not the name
    brand) wood smoker on a close out sale a few years ago and bought it; he
    said that does the best steaks he's ever eaten. Nice for me is that he
    does all the clean up.

    Understandable; our kitchen is bigger but I usually don't spend
    hours RH> in it. Got to have Steve finish moving some stuff to his new
    shed and RH> finish the indoor work on the new (2021) windows so I can
    rehang the RH> curtains.

    I just got a letter from a realtor wanting to know if I'd consider
    selling my house. Seems (he says) he has an "interested, motivated
    buyer".

    Steve got a call a couple of weeks ago from someone "interested in
    buying the house" so he said "yes, it is for sale, for half a million
    dollars". Guy asked if we would really sell for that, so Steve said
    "yes, so we can afford a new house and the cost of moving". Offer was
    declined and Steve asked to be taken off his calling list. Try that with solicitors. (G)

    As if! This is the first house I've ever owned and it will be the
    last. My will gives my housemate lifetime tenancy then the house
    goes DD> to the DD> local Habitat for Humanity for their affordable
    housing program.

    Sounds like a good idea. We're still debating moving out west
    eventually, still tied to the East Coast at the moment.


    Title: Senf Gherkins
    Categories: Squash, Preserving, Pickles
    Yield: 7 Pints

    5 qt Cucumbers or Gherkins; 1 1/2
    - to 3 inches length
    1/2 c Salt
    8 c Sugar
    6 c Vinegar
    3/4 ts Turmeric
    2 ts Celery seed
    2 ts Whole mixed pickling spices
    8 (1") sticks cinnamon
    1/2 ts Fennel; opt
    2 ts Vanilla; opt

    Where's the mustard? Senf is German for mustard.

    I did not kow that. But, here's some pickling spice - the lead call is
    for ..... mustard seed.


    Title: Homemade Pickling Spice
    Categories: Spices, Herbs, Preserving
    Yield: 1 /3 cup

    OK, that works.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Friday, August 02, 2024 06:38:00
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I think this was mostly for the antique value. She even had gallon
    size Ball Mason jars w/glass lids. The gaskets were pretty much
    crumbled to dust. But, still ......

    Probably could have found replacement gaskets at Amish/Mennonite
    stores. My mom had some canning jars with the glass & rubber gasket
    lids, don't know where/when she got them but always managed to find the rubber rings. Most of her jars were like all of mine, with the metal
    screw band and lid; I've probably gone thru hundreds of lids in my
    canning lifetime.

    My forebears were much more into canning/putting up than is currently
    the practice. Modern processes and techniques combined with ease of the stupormarkup availability has pretty mch put paid to that.

    8<----- HACK ----->8

    I nearly bought a smoker - but, the "reality" side of my brain said, "You'll buy. Set it up. Use it once or twice than spend the rest of
    you life dusting it and working around it." So, I passed. I do have a charcoal grill w/offset fire box that I can use to smoke stuff if I
    care to. I find, though, that the older I get the less time I spend in
    my tiny kitchen.

    Steve found one on the side of the road when we were in AZ. It was a charcoal one, no instructions and most everything he tried was heavy on the charcoal and smoke flavors. That stayed in AZ when we went to HI
    and he got a (new) gas smoker. He was more successful with that so has kept smoking, with gas and/or electric. Found an egg shape (not the
    name brand) wood smoker on a close out sale a few years ago and bought
    it; he said that does the best steaks he's ever eaten. Nice for me is
    that he does all the clean up.

    I don't understand chardoal flavour unless the meat was burnt to a crisp. Charcoal briquettes have no flavorants to impart. And one of the basic
    things about smoke cooking is to add that smoke flacor. Bv)=

    Dennis' son brought us a charcoal grill with an offset firebox that lets
    it be used as a smoker. Here's a link to a picture of one just like it.

    https://tinyurl.com/SMOQUER

    Understandable; our kitchen is bigger but I usually don't spend
    hours in it. Got to have Steve finish moving some stuff to his new
    shed and finish the indoor work on the new (2021) windows so I can
    rehang the curtains.

    I just got a letter from a realtor wanting to know if I'd consider
    selling my house. Seems (he says) he has an "interested, motivated
    buyer".

    Steve got a call a couple of weeks ago from someone "interested in
    buying the house" so he said "yes, it is for sale, for half a million dollars". Guy asked if we would really sell for that, so Steve said
    "yes, so we can afford a new house and the cost of moving". Offer was declined and Steve asked to be taken off his calling list. Try that
    with solicitors. (G)

    It beats answering the phone "Mabel's Wh**e House, Dave the towel boy speaking". Bv)=

    As if! This is the first house I've ever owned and it will be the
    last. My will gives my housemate lifetime tenancy then the house
    goes to the local Habitat for Humanity for their affordable
    housing program.

    Sounds like a good idea. We're still debating moving out west
    eventually, still tied to the East Coast at the moment.

    Moving house is a major PITA.

    Title: Senf Gherkins
    Categories: Squash, Preserving, Pickles
    Yield: 7 Pints

    5 qt Cucumbers or Gherkins; 1 1/2
    - to 3 inches length
    1/2 c Salt
    8 c Sugar
    6 c Vinegar
    3/4 ts Turmeric
    2 ts Celery seed
    2 ts Whole mixed pickling spices
    8 (1") sticks cinnamon
    1/2 ts Fennel; opt
    2 ts Vanilla; opt

    Where's the mustard? Senf is German for mustard.

    I did not know that. But, here's some pickling spice - the lead call is for ..... mustard seed.


    Title: Homemade Pickling Spice
    Categories: Spices, Herbs, Preserving
    Yield: 1 /3 cup

    OK, that works.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Smoked Asian Carp Savory & Sweet
    Categories: Seafood, Smoker, Fruits, Herbs
    Yield: 5 Pounds

    MMMMM---------------------------SAVORY--------------------------------
    5 lb Bighead, Silver or Grass
    - Carp filets; skin on
    1 c Kosher Salt
    1 c Sugar
    1 ts Fresh ground pepper
    1 bn Fresh dill weed

    MMMMM---------------------------SWEET--------------------------------
    5 lb Bighead, Silver or Grass
    - Carp filets; skin on
    1 c Kosher Salt
    1 c Brown sugar
    4 c Apple juice
    2 Sticks cinnamon

    Apparently the meat tastes like "a cross between scallops
    and crabmeat," according to seafood chef Philippe Parola.

    Savory - Line up filets in a glass tray. Coat both sides
    with salt pepper and dill. Cover with plastic wrap and
    refrigerate overnight.

    Sweet - Place filets in a glass pan. Add all ingrediants and
    mix to dissolve sugar. Cover with plastic and refrigerate
    overnight.

    Soak cherry or apple wood chips for several hours. Light the
    smoker and add a water pan to keep the fish from becoming
    too dry. Remove the fish from the marinade and place on wire
    racks for one hour in the refrigerator. The fish will
    develope a slight glaze. Oil the smoker racks and place the
    fish in the smoker. Add wood chips to the fire, and
    replenish every 20 min. Smoke 2-4 hours depending on the
    temperature of the smoker. The fish will become golden brown
    and will flake easily when done. Remove and allow to cool.

    Use in any recipe calling for smoked salmon.

    From: http://www.illinoisbowfishing.net

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Carol Shenkenberger on Thursday, August 01, 2024 20:14:42
    Hi Carol,

    classmates to make cider. IIRC, they were able to make several gallons, splitting the yield so some went back to the college, some stayed with
    my parents.

    Sounds like a plan for my apple cider! I won't try to ferment it, but next year might, For now, I don't have containers to do that
    properly.

    Do you have space in your freezer? Cider does freeze well, just have to
    make sure you leave some head room. That way you can enjoy last year's
    batch when the trees are blooming for this year's crop. (G)

    Thats problematic. I'm shy of space in the frezer!

    And still more summer crops to harvest. (G) Guess you will have to
    either get creative in your arrainging of what goes in to free up space
    or bite the bullet and get a new freezer. I'm still re-arrainging my
    fridge freezer and the big one from the melt down of a couple of weeks
    ago, finding I have more room than I thought I did.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Carol Shenkenberger@1:275/100 to Ruth Haffly on Friday, August 02, 2024 16:21:35
    Re: Towing the Line [1]
    By: Ruth Haffly to Carol Shenkenberger on Thu Aug 01 2024 08:14 pm

    Hi Carol,

    classmates to make cider. IIRC, they were able to make several gallons splitting the yield so some went back to the college, some stayed with my parents.

    Sounds like a plan for my apple cider! I won't try to ferment it, b next year might, For now, I don't have containers to do that properly.

    Do you have space in your freezer? Cider does freeze well, just have to make sure you leave some head room. That way you can enjoy last year's batch when the trees are blooming for this year's crop. (G)

    Thats problematic. I'm shy of space in the frezer!

    And still more summer crops to harvest. (G) Guess you will have to
    either get creative in your arrainging of what goes in to free up space
    or bite the bullet and get a new freezer. I'm still re-arrainging my
    fridge freezer and the big one from the melt down of a couple of weeks
    ago, finding I have more room than I thought I did.


    Yup! Trying to eat up stuff from the chest freezer. Making some inroads on it but slowly. Grr.

    xxcarol
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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Carol Shenkenberger on Saturday, August 03, 2024 06:32:00
    Carol Shenkenberger wrote to Ruth Haffly <=-

    Thats problematic. I'm shy of space in the frezer!

    And still more summer crops to harvest. (G) Guess you will have to
    either get creative in your arrainging of what goes in to free up space
    or bite the bullet and get a new freezer. I'm still re-arrainging my
    fridge freezer and the big one from the melt down of a couple of weeks
    ago, finding I have more room than I thought I did.

    Yup! Trying to eat up stuff from the chest freezer. Making some
    inroads on it but slowly. Grr.

    Two people can only eat so much. Even if one of the is Humphrey Pennyworth
    (old comix-strip reference) Bv0=

    Keep pigging out - you'll get there.

    https://comicvine.gamespot.com/humphrey-pennyworth/4005-74279/issues-cover/

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Humphrey's Baked Beans
    Categories: Beans, Pork, Chilies, Vegetables, Sauces
    Yield: 12 servings

    8 sl Bacon; halved
    1 md Onion; diced small
    1 Serrano chile; minced
    7 oz Can Hatch diced green chilies
    84 oz Bush's Baked Beans; drained
    - partially (just pour the
    - liquid off the top) (3 lg
    - cans)
    3/4 c thick Kansas City style bbq
    - sauce
    1/4 c brown sugar
    1/4 c cider vinegar
    8 oz Can crushed pineapple;
    - drained
    2 tb Prepared yellow mustard

    Adjust oven rack to lower middle position and heat oven
    to 325oF/165oC.

    Fry bacon in a large pot until bacon is mostly cooked
    and has released about 1/4 cup drippings.

    Remove the bacon from the pot and drain on paper towels
    and chop.

    Add the onions, chile pepper and chilies to the bacon
    drippings in the pot and saute until very soft, about 15
    minutes.

    Add the bacon back in and the beans and all remaining
    ingredients and bring to a simmer.

    Pour the beans into a 13" X 9" ovenproof dish.

    Bake until beans are bubbly and the sauce is the
    consistency of syrup, about 1 hour 45 minutes or longer.

    Let stand to thicken slightly and serve.

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.recipezazz.com

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Friday, August 02, 2024 14:52:46
    Hi Dave,

    Probably could have found replacement gaskets at Amish/Mennonite
    stores. My mom had some canning jars with the glass & rubber gasket
    lids, don't know where/when she got them but always managed to find the rubber rings. Most of her jars were like all of mine, with the metal
    screw band and lid; I've probably gone thru hundreds of lids in my
    canning lifetime.

    My forebears were much more into canning/putting up than is currently
    the practice. Modern processes and techniques combined with ease of
    the stupormarkup availability has pretty mch put paid to that.

    Except in Amish/Mennonite (and probably Amana) enclaves. I don't do as
    much as I used to do. My mom used to do it every year until her memory
    got bad enough, probably stopped in her late 70s. Dad put in 2 gardens
    every year until his late 80s, enough to feed all of us kids. Whenever
    my youngest sister visited, she'd take home some canned goods; AFAIK,
    she never learned to put stuff up (nor did my other sister).


    8<----- HACK ----->8

    I nearly bought a smoker - but, the "reality" side of my brain said,
    my tiny kitchen.

    Steve found one on the side of the road when we were in AZ. It was a charcoal one, no instructions and most everything he tried was heavy on the charcoal and smoke flavors. That stayed in AZ when we went to HI
    and he got a (new) gas smoker. He was more successful with that so has kept smoking, with gas and/or electric. Found an egg shape (not the
    name brand) wood smoker on a close out sale a few years ago and bought
    it; he said that does the best steaks he's ever eaten. Nice for me is
    that he does all the clean up.

    I don't understand chardoal flavour unless the meat was burnt to a
    crisp. Charcoal briquettes have no flavorants to impart. And one of
    the basic
    things about smoke cooking is to add that smoke flacor. Bv)=

    Since it had no instructions and You Tube wasnn't around yet, the meats
    were way overdone, too much smoke flavor and close to being charcoal in done-ness.

    Dennis' son brought us a charcoal grill with an offset firebox that
    lets it be used as a smoker. Here's a link to a picture of one just
    like it.

    https://tinyurl.com/SMOQUER

    I've seen them.

    Understandable; our kitchen is bigger but I usually don't spend
    hours in it. Got to have Steve finish moving some stuff to his new
    shed and finish the indoor work on the new (2021) windows so I can
    rehang the curtains.

    I just got a letter from a realtor wanting to know if I'd consider
    selling my house. Seems (he says) he has an "interested, motivated
    buyer".

    Steve got a call a couple of weeks ago from someone "interested in
    buying the house" so he said "yes, it is for sale, for half a million dollars". Guy asked if we would really sell for that, so Steve said
    "yes, so we can afford a new house and the cost of moving". Offer was declined and Steve asked to be taken off his calling list. Try that
    with solicitors. (G)

    It beats answering the phone "Mabel's Wh**e House, Dave the towel boy speaking". Bv)=

    True, and doubt we'll ever get taken up on the offer so....

    As if! This is the first house I've ever owned and it will be the
    last. My will gives my housemate lifetime tenancy then the house
    goes to the local Habitat for Humanity for their affordable DD>
    housing program.

    Sounds like a good idea. We're still debating moving out west
    eventually, still tied to the East Coast at the moment.

    Moving house is a major PITA.

    I know, we've moved 16 times (that I can think of) in the almost 49
    years we've been married.


    Title: Senf Gherkins
    Categories: Squash, Preserving, Pickles
    Yield: 7 Pints

    5 qt Cucumbers or Gherkins; 1 1/2
    - to 3 inches length
    1/2 c Salt
    8 c Sugar
    6 c Vinegar
    3/4 ts Turmeric
    2 ts Celery seed
    2 ts Whole mixed pickling spices
    8 (1") sticks cinnamon
    1/2 ts Fennel; opt
    2 ts Vanilla; opt

    Where's the mustard? Senf is German for mustard.

    I did not know that. But, here's some pickling spice - the lead call is for ..... mustard seed.


    Title: Homemade Pickling Spice
    Categories: Spices, Herbs, Preserving
    Yield: 1 /3 cup

    OK, that works.


    Title: Smoked Asian Carp Savory & Sweet
    Categories: Seafood, Smoker, Fruits, Herbs
    Yield: 5 Pounds

    Might try somethin like this with salmon--make our own lox. Bake our own
    bagels to go with them.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Sunday, August 04, 2024 07:27:00
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    My forebears were much more into canning/putting up than is currently
    the practice. Modern processes and techniques combined with ease of
    the stupormarkup availability has pretty mch put paid to that.

    Except in Amish/Mennonite (and probably Amana) enclaves. I don't do as much as I used to do. My mom used to do it every year until her memory
    got bad enough, probably stopped in her late 70s. Dad put in 2 gardens every year until his late 80s, enough to feed all of us kids. Whenever
    my youngest sister visited, she'd take home some canned goods; AFAIK,
    she never learned to put stuff up (nor did my other sister).

    The Amana colonies were pretty much Amish-like with similar roots. Except
    the Amish would make the nice appliance that thae Amana colonies do. Bv)=

    8<----- HACK ----->8

    I nearly bought a smoker - but, the "reality" side of my brain said,
    my tiny kitchen.

    Steve found one on the side of the road when we were in AZ. It was a charcoal one, no instructions and most everything he tried was heavy on the charcoal and smoke flavors. That stayed in AZ when we went to HI
    and he got a (new) gas smoker. He was more successful with that so has kept smoking, with gas and/or electric. Found an egg shape (not the
    name brand) wood smoker on a close out sale a few years ago and bought
    it; he said that does the best steaks he's ever eaten. Nice for me is
    that he does all the clean up.

    I don't understand chardoal flavour unless the meat was burnt to a
    crisp. Charcoal briquettes have no flavorants to impart. And one of
    the basic things about smoke cooking is to add that smoke flacor. Bv)=

    Since it had no instructions and You Tube wasnn't around yet, the meats were way overdone, too much smoke flavor and close to being charcoal in done-ness.

    I'd not care much for it then. I likes me steaks medium-rare at most.
    Rare is bettr. I want my chicken well cooked and my pork "done" to at
    least "pink". But, if my beef steak is still bloody in the middle - I'm
    not concerned.

    Dennis' son brought us a charcoal grill with an offset firebox that
    lets it be used as a smoker. Here's a link to a picture of one just
    like it.

    https://tinyurl.com/SMOQUER

    I've seen them.

    Understandable; our kitchen is bigger but I usually don't spend
    hours in it. Got to have Steve finish moving some stuff to his new
    shed and finish the indoor work on the new (2021) windows so I can
    rehang the curtains.

    I just got a letter from a realtor wanting to know if I'd consider
    selling my house. Seems (he says) he has an "interested, motivated
    buyer".

    Steve got a call a couple of weeks ago from someone "interested in
    buying the house" so he said "yes, it is for sale, for half a million dollars". Guy asked if we would really sell for that, so Steve said
    "yes, so we can afford a new house and the cost of moving". Offer was declined and Steve asked to be taken off his calling list. Try that
    with solicitors. (G)

    It beats answering the phone "Mabel's Wh**e House, Dave the towel boy speaking". Bv)=

    True, and doubt we'll ever get taken up on the offer so....

    If you do you can put the money left after Uncle Sugar gets his cut into
    CDs and pad your retirement. I'm amazed at what some properties are being
    sold for these days. The last house my parents owned here was bought for
    U$10K. My dad (and us chirrun) put a lot of sweat into remodeling and
    updating the place - and when the folks moved to Bloomngton it sold (in
    1969) for U$38K. I noted a few months ago in the local fish wrapper's
    "What Did It Sell For" listings that the old barn had changed hands again
    and for U$375K. Part of that is "inflation". But jeez ....

    As if! This is the first house I've ever owned and it will be the
    last. My will gives my housemate lifetime tenancy then the house
    goes to the local Habitat for Humanity for their affordable
    housing program.

    Sounds like a good idea. We're still debating moving out west
    eventually, still tied to the East Coast at the moment.

    You guys fooled me. I figured that when Steve finished seminary that
    you'd sky up and go west then.

    Moving house is a major PITA.

    I know, we've moved 16 times (that I can think of) in the almost 49
    years we've been married.

    8<----- NIP ----->8

    Title: Smoked Asian Carp Savory & Sweet
    Categories: Seafood, Smoker, Fruits, Herbs
    Yield: 5 Pounds

    Might try somethin like this with salmon--make our own lox. Bake our
    own bagels to go with them.

    Never tried making bagels. Panera's Cinnamon Swirl and Everything bagels satisfy my needs, wants and desires, bagel-wise.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Water Bagels
    Categories: Breads
    Yield: 18 Bagels

    1 c Milk; scalded
    1/4 c Butter
    1 tb Sugar
    1 ts Salt
    2 1/4 ts Pkg active dry yeast
    2 lg Eggs
    3 3/4 c All-purpose flour
    2 qt Water; almost boiling
    1 tb Sugar
    1 Egg white; beaten

    Set oven @ 400ºF/205ºC.

    Combine the scalded milk, butter, sugar and salt. Warm
    gently to a temperature of between 105ºF/41ºC and
    115ºF/46ºC. Remove from the heat and add and dissolve
    the yeast in the mixture. Wait 3 minutes while the
    yeast works. Blend in the eggs and flour.

    Knead this soft dough for 10 minutes, adding flour if
    needed to make it firm enough to handle. Place in a
    greased bowl, cover and let rise until doubled in bulk.
    Punch down and divide into equal parts (one part for
    each finished bagel).

    Roll each piece into a rope about 7" long and tapered at
    the ends. Wet the ends and form a doughnut-shaped ring
    from each rope. Cover and let rise on a floured board
    for about 15 minutes. Place in a refrigerator for 2
    hours to firm up the dough.

    Bring the water to a boil and add the sugar. Drop the
    rings, one at a time, into the boiling sugar water. When
    the bagels surface, turn them over and cook another 3
    minutes. Skim the bagels out of the water and place on
    an ungreased baking sheet. Coat each with beaten egg
    white. Bake in the oven until golden brown (The longer
    you bake, the crisper the bagel).

    From: http://www.recipesource.com

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Carol Shenkenberger on Saturday, August 03, 2024 11:59:32
    Hi Carol,

    Do you have space in your freezer? Cider does freeze well, just have to make sure you leave some head room. That way you can enjoy last year's batch when the trees are blooming for this year's crop. (G)

    Thats problematic. I'm shy of space in the frezer!

    And still more summer crops to harvest. (G) Guess you will have to
    either get creative in your arrainging of what goes in to free up space
    or bite the bullet and get a new freezer. I'm still re-arrainging my
    fridge freezer and the big one from the melt down of a couple of weeks
    ago, finding I have more room than I thought I did.

    Yup! Trying to eat up stuff from the chest freezer. Making some
    inroads on it but slowly. Grr.

    I know the feeling; we've been trying to "eat down the freezer" for a
    couple of years. There's a lot of meat stored in it; Steve likes to grab
    things on sale for future smoking. I'm slowly but surely using up the
    stock pile plus various other things we popped in there.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Sunday, August 04, 2024 19:59:52
    Hi Dave,


    Except in Amish/Mennonite (and probably Amana) enclaves. I don't do as much as I used to do. My mom used to do it every year until her memory
    got bad enough, probably stopped in her late 70s. Dad put in 2 gardens every year until his late 80s, enough to feed all of us kids. Whenever
    my youngest sister visited, she'd take home some canned goods; AFAIK,
    she never learned to put stuff up (nor did my other sister).

    The Amana colonies were pretty much Amish-like with similar roots.
    Except the Amish would make the nice appliance that thae Amana
    colonies do. Bv)=

    Amish would not make (or use) electric appliances, maybe propane but no standard fridge, microwave, range, etc.

    8<----- HACK ----->8


    I just got a letter from a realtor wanting to know if I'd consider
    selling my house. Seems (he says) he has an "interested, motivated
    buyer".

    Steve got a call a couple of weeks ago from someone "interested in
    buying the house" so he said "yes, it is for sale, for half a million dollars". Guy asked if we would really sell for that, so Steve said
    "yes, so we can afford a new house and the cost of moving". Offer was declined and Steve asked to be taken off his calling list. Try that
    with solicitors. (G)

    It beats answering the phone "Mabel's Wh**e House, Dave the towel boy speaking". Bv)=

    True, and doubt we'll ever get taken up on the offer so....

    If you do you can put the money left after Uncle Sugar gets his cut
    into CDs and pad your retirement. I'm amazed at what some properties
    are being sold for these days. The last house my parents owned here
    was bought for U$10K. My dad (and us chirrun) put a lot of sweat into remodeling and
    updating the place - and when the folks moved to Bloomngton it sold
    (in 1969) for U$38K. I noted a few months ago in the local fish
    wrapper's
    "What Did It Sell For" listings that the old barn had changed hands
    again and for U$375K. Part of that is "inflation". But jeez ....

    I've no idea what my parent's house would go for. My brother owns it
    (and 2 other properties in NY State); I'd not want his property taxes.

    As if! This is the first house I've ever owned and it will be the
    last. My will gives my housemate lifetime tenancy then the house
    goes to the local Habitat for Humanity for their affordable
    housing program.

    Sounds like a good idea. We're still debating moving out west
    eventually, still tied to the East Coast at the moment.

    You guys fooled me. I figured that when Steve finished seminary that
    you'd sky up and go west then.

    We'd thought about it but have had our reasons for staying on the east
    coast for the time being.

    Moving house is a major PITA.

    I know, we've moved 16 times (that I can think of) in the almost 49
    years we've been married.

    Might try somethin like this with salmon--make our own lox. Bake our
    own bagels to go with them.

    Never tried making bagels. Panera's Cinnamon Swirl and Everything
    bagels satisfy my needs, wants and desires, bagel-wise.

    I've made them occaisionally. Did some on September 10,2001 so Steve
    took the box into work. We lived on post but he knew those that lived
    off post would have a long, hard wait to get in and probably stay late.
    Figured he'd give them some sustanence. Box came home mostly empty, only
    time it did. Other times I'd send in goodies, it would come back empty.
    (G)

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Tuesday, August 06, 2024 06:09:00
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    The Amana colonies were pretty much Amish-like with similar roots.
    Except the Amish would make the nice appliance that thae Amana
    colonies do. Bv)=

    Amish would not make (or use) electric appliances, maybe propane but no standard fridge, microwave, range, etc.

    Sorry, I meant to type "wouldn't make". Must have got my tongue over my
    eye teeth and couldn't see whar I was saying. Bv)=

    8<----- HACK ----->8

    I've no idea what my parent's house would go for. My brother owns it
    (and 2 other properties in NY State); I'd not want his property taxes.

    I was over 65 when I bought this crib. Illinois has both a "Homestead Exemption" and a senior citizens tax freeze. So my taxes are effectively
    what they were when I moved in.

    "This annual exemption is available for residential property that is
    occupied by its owner or owners as his or their principal dwelling
    place, or that is a leasehold interest on which a single family
    residence is situated, which is occupied as a residence by a person who
    has an ownership interest therein, legal or equitable or as a lessee,
    and on which the person is liable for the payment of property taxes."

    The Illinois Senior Property Tax Freeze allows qualified senior citizens to:

    "Have their home's equalized assessed value (EAV) "frozen" at a base year value.

    Prevent or limit any increase due to inflation.

    To qualify, you must be 65 on January 1st of the applicable tax year and
    your total household income from all sources cannot exceed $65,000."

    If I made over 65K I'd not worry much about property taxes. The only
    "gotcha" is that you must re-apply every year. Fortunately that can be
    done by mail. There is no parking vary close to the County Building,
    the hallas are long and the Assessor's office is on the 3rd floor.

    As if! This is the first house I've ever owned and it will be the
    last. My will gives my housemate lifetime tenancy then the house
    goes to the local Habitat for Humanity for their affordable
    housing program.

    Sounds like a good idea. We're still debating moving out west
    eventually, still tied to the East Coast at the moment.

    You guys fooled me. I figured that when Steve finished seminary that
    you'd sky up and go west then.

    We'd thought about it but have had our reasons for staying on the east coast for the time being.

    Inertia had a lot to do with me remaining in Illinois. When I was younger
    I'd pack a bag and go out to Route 66 and stick out my thumb. Saw a lot of places I'd never been that way.

    Moving house is a major PITA.

    I know, we've moved 16 times (that I can think of) in the almost 49
    years we've been married.

    Might try somethin like this with salmon--make our own lox. Bake our
    own bagels to go with them.

    Never tried making bagels. Panera's Cinnamon Swirl and Everything
    bagels satisfy my needs, wants and desires, bagel-wise.

    I've made them occaisionally. Did some on September 10,2001 so Steve
    took the box into work. We lived on post but he knew those that lived
    off post would have a long, hard wait to get in and probably stay late. Figured he'd give them some sustanence. Box came home mostly empty,
    only time it did. Other times I'd send in goodies, it would come back empty. (G)

    Soldiers are food vacuums. Bv)= Sailors, too.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Makaroni Po-Flotsky (Navy Noodles)
    Categories: Pasta, Vegetables, Beef
    Yield: 6 Servings

    1 lb (450 g) wide, short egg
    - noodles
    1 1/2 lb (680 g) ground beef
    1 lg Onion; chopped
    1 cl Garlic; pressed
    5 tb (75 ml) oil
    1 ts Butter
    Salt & pepper

    Cook the noodles according to package directions. Rinse
    thoroughly with cold water, drain, and set aside.

    Warm butter and 3 tb (45 ml) of oil in a skillet and
    saute onions and garlic until golden-brown, about 15
    minutes. Remove from skillet and set aside.

    Warm remaining oil in the skillet, add ground beef, and
    brown thoroughly, about 15 minutes. Cool slightly, then
    process the beef or put it through a meat grinder.

    Combine noodles with onions and meat. Season with salt
    and pepper.

    This dish is a favorite with children.

    Source: Redisca

    RECIPE FROM: http://www.ruscuisine.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

    MMMMM

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Tuesday, August 06, 2024 13:54:32
    Hi Dave,


    The Amana colonies were pretty much Amish-like with similar roots.
    Except the Amish would make the nice appliance that thae Amana
    colonies do. Bv)=

    Amish would not make (or use) electric appliances, maybe propane but no standard fridge, microwave, range, etc.

    Sorry, I meant to type "wouldn't make". Must have got my tongue over
    my eye teeth and couldn't see whar I was saying. Bv)=

    Sort of figured. My late FIL used to use that saying from time to time.

    8<----- HACK ----->8

    I've no idea what my parent's house would go for. My brother owns it
    (and 2 other properties in NY State); I'd not want his property taxes.

    I was over 65 when I bought this crib. Illinois has both a "Homestead Exemption" and a senior citizens tax freeze. So my taxes are
    effectively what they were when I moved in.


    If I made over 65K I'd not worry much about property taxes. The only "gotcha" is that you must re-apply every year. Fortunately that can
    be done by mail. There is no parking vary close to the County

    Sounds like a good deal. I think ours are reduced a bit for being over
    65 but not 100% sure. Steve deals with them, not me.

    As if! This is the first house I've ever owned and it will be the
    last. My will gives my housemate lifetime tenancy then the house
    goes to the local Habitat for Humanity for their affordable DD>
    housing program.

    Sounds like a good idea. We're still debating moving out west
    eventually, still tied to the East Coast at the moment.

    You guys fooled me. I figured that when Steve finished seminary that
    you'd sky up and go west then.

    We'd thought about it but have had our reasons for staying on the east coast for the time being.

    Inertia had a lot to do with me remaining in Illinois. When I was
    younger I'd pack a bag and go out to Route 66 and stick out my thumb.
    Saw a lot of places I'd never been that way.

    We decided that as long as we have living parents, we'd stay on the east
    coast, easier to get to them in a (long) day's drive if needs be. We
    have just one living parent now and like to go visit her from time to
    time. We also try to call at least once a week.


    Moving house is a major PITA.

    I know, we've moved 16 times (that I can think of) in the almost 49
    years we've been married.

    Might try somethin like this with salmon--make our own lox. Bake our
    own bagels to go with them.

    Never tried making bagels. Panera's Cinnamon Swirl and Everything
    bagels satisfy my needs, wants and desires, bagel-wise.

    I've made them occaisionally. Did some on September 10,2001 so Steve
    took the box into work. We lived on post but he knew those that lived
    off post would have a long, hard wait to get in and probably stay late. Figured he'd give them some sustanence. Box came home mostly empty,
    only time it did. Other times I'd send in goodies, it would come back empty. (G)

    Soldiers are food vacuums. Bv)= Sailors, too.

    Especially if it's home made and sweet.


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


    ... I am positive that a definite maybe is probably in order.

    --- PPoint 3.01
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  • From Carol Shenkenberger@1:275/100 to Ruth Haffly on Wednesday, August 07, 2024 16:27:36
    Re: Towing the Line [1]
    By: Ruth Haffly to Carol Shenkenberger on Sat Aug 03 2024 11:59 am

    Hi Carol,

    Do you have space in your freezer? Cider does freeze well, just have t make sure you leave some head room. That way you can enjoy last year's batch when the trees are blooming for this year's crop. (G)

    Thats problematic. I'm shy of space in the frezer!

    And still more summer crops to harvest. (G) Guess you will have to
    either get creative in your arrainging of what goes in to free up space or bite the bullet and get a new freezer. I'm still re-arrainging my fridge freezer and the big one from the melt down of a couple of weeks ago, finding I have more room than I thought I did.

    Yup! Trying to eat up stuff from the chest freezer. Making some inroads on it but slowly. Grr.

    I know the feeling; we've been trying to "eat down the freezer" for a
    couple of years. There's a lot of meat stored in it; Steve likes to grab things on sale for future smoking. I'm slowly but surely using up the
    stock pile plus various other things we popped in there.


    Same here. We did fine when Charlotte was here but now I tend to overbuy based on current eating. Ah well.

    xxcarol
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Carol Shenkenberger on Thursday, August 08, 2024 12:33:04
    Hi Carol,

    Yup! Trying to eat up stuff from the chest freezer. Making some inroads on it but slowly. Grr.

    I know the feeling; we've been trying to "eat down the freezer" for a
    couple of years. There's a lot of meat stored in it; Steve likes to grab things on sale for future smoking. I'm slowly but surely using up the
    stock pile plus various other things we popped in there.

    Same here. We did fine when Charlotte was here but now I tend to
    overbuy based on current eating. Ah well.

    We're slowly but surely making progress. The fridge freezer has a lot of
    empty space, the upright freezer gets a little more space each week.
    We've got another bowl of figs that I think we'll dehydrate instead of freezing--don't have to use electricity to keep them dry. (G)


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


    ... There cannot be a crisis today; my schedule is already full.

    --- PPoint 3.01
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  • From Carol Shenkenberger@1:275/100 to Ruth Haffly on Saturday, August 10, 2024 12:32:57
    Re: Towing the Line [1]
    By: Ruth Haffly to Carol Shenkenberger on Thu Aug 08 2024 12:33 pm

    Hi Carol,

    Yup! Trying to eat up stuff from the chest freezer. Making some inroads on it but slowly. Grr.

    I know the feeling; we've been trying to "eat down the freezer" for a couple of years. There's a lot of meat stored in it; Steve likes to grab things on sale for future smoking. I'm slowly but surely using up the stock pile plus various other things we popped in there.

    Same here. We did fine when Charlotte was here but now I tend to overbuy based on current eating. Ah well.

    We're slowly but surely making progress. The fridge freezer has a lot of empty space, the upright freezer gets a little more space each week.
    We've got another bowl of figs that I think we'll dehydrate instead of freezing--don't have to use electricity to keep them dry. (G)


    Same here, We use the air fryer a lot so I stock things for it now. It's nice how easy is to do dry rub spicing on chicken thighs and such. We ebb and flow weekly but starting to see progress.

    xxcarol
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