The F I D O N E W S Volume 41, Number 33 12 Aug 2024 +--------------------------+-----------------------------------------+
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Table of Contents
1. FOOD FOR THOUGHT ......................................... 1
2. EDITORIAL ................................................ 2
The Responsible Publisher ................................ 2
3. LIST OF FIDONET IPV6 NODES ............................... 3
4. JAMNNTPD SERVERS LIST .................................... 6
The Johan Billing JamNNTPd project ....................... 6
5. FIDONEWS'S FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING ...................... 7
6. SPECIAL INTEREST ......................................... 14
Statistics from the Fidoweb .............................. 14
Nodelist Stats ........................................... 15
7. FIDONEWS INFORMATION ..................................... 17
How to Submit an Article ................................. 17
Credits, Legal Infomation, Availability .................. 19

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FOOD FOR THOUGHT =================================================================

If you've been playing poker for half
an hour, and you still don't know who
the patsy is, you're the patsy.

-- Warren Buffett

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EDITORIAL =================================================================

The Responsible Publisher
by The Publisher (2:2/2)

Many readers are confusing the publisher with the editor, and that is
totally understandable because in the English speaking World, the two
words actually are used interchangeably.

But since this publication is based in Sweden, it must follow
Swedish law, and we have strict laws about it and a constitution that
limits what laws our lawmakers are allowed to pass. You also can see
why freedom of expression is so important here.

Here's how it works. This also gives you information about what
you can do if you find what you think may be a violation of the law,
even if in your own country:


A responsible publisher (sometimes just called a publisher) is in
Swedish legislation a person who, according to the Freedom of
Expression Ordinance and/or the Freedom of Expression Basic Law, is
responsible for media publications.

Designating a responsible publisher is one method of achieving constitutional protection for readers as well as writers.

Disputes about the responsible publisher are handled by the
Swedish Press, Radio and Television Authority (MPRT).

A responsible publisher must be eighteen years of age and must be
resident in Sweden but does not have to be a Swedish citizen.


Now you know...


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SPECIAL INTEREST =================================================================

Last week's statistics from the Fidoweb
By EchoTime @ 2:203/0

(Some nets may have lost their last
digit for technical reasons)

pkt (toss-toss) msg (write-toss)
nodes mean dev no mean dev no

201/* 1.4m 0.4m 2 0.0h 0.0h 2
221/* 0.7m 0.4m 691 4.5h 5.4h 691
280/* 0.8m 3.0m 819 4.7h 7.3h 817
292/* 3.3m 1.7m 6 7.2h 10.3h 5
320/* 2.1m 1.1m 181 2.0h 3.2h 181

Sigma 0.9m 2.2m 1699 4.4h 6.3h 1696

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Nodelist Stats

Input nodelist nodelist.222
size 155.7kb
date 2024-08-09

The nodelist has 818 nodes in it
and a total of 1209 non-comment entries

including 4 zones
30 regions
157 hosts
61 hubs
admin overhead 252 ( 30.81 %)

and 93 private nodes
24 nodes down
22 nodes on hold
off line overhead 139 ( 16.99 %)


Speed summary:

>9600 = 22 ( 2.69 %)
9600 = 88 ( 10.76 %)
(HST = 1 or 1.14 %)
(CSP = 0 or 0.00 %)
(PEP = 0 or 0.00 %)
(MAX = 0 or 0.00 %)
(HAY = 0 or 0.00 %)
(V32 = 55 or 62.50 %)
(V32B = 0 or 0.00 %)
(V34 = 53 or 60.23 %)
(V42 = 46 or 52.27 %)
(V42B = 0 or 0.00 %)
2400 = 1 ( 0.12 %)
1200 = 1 ( 0.12 %)
300 = 706 ( 86.31 %)

ISDN = 19 ( 2.32 %)

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IP Flags Protocol Number of systems -----------------------------------------------------
IBN Binkp 707 ( 86.43 %) ----------------------------------
IFC Raw ifcico 62 ( 7.58 %) ----------------------------------
IFT FTP 37 ( 4.52 %) ----------------------------------
ITN Telnet 99 ( 12.10 %) ----------------------------------
IVM Vmodem 14 ( 1.71 %) ----------------------------------
IP Other 1 ( 0.12 %) ----------------------------------
INO4 IPv6 only 5 ( 0.61 %) ----------------------------------

CrashMail capable = 753 ( 92.05 %)
MailOnly nodes = 243 ( 29.71 %)
Listed-only nodes = 18 ( 2.20 %)



[Report produced by NETSTATS - A PD pgm]
[ Revised by B Felten, 2:203/2]
[ NetStats 3.8 2014-11-23]

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Hello Bj�rn,

EDITORIAL

The Responsible Publisher
by The Publisher (2:2/2)

Many readers are confusing the publisher with the editor, and that is totally understandable because in the English speaking World, the two words actually are used interchangeably.

I am so confused.

Who owns the book, the author or publisher?

Everybody knows who the publisher is.
That would be the sysops who comprise Fidonet.

And everybody should know who the author is,
as it is the very folks who contribute to the
Fidonews.

Does that mean the editor is the author?
It can be. But does it have to be?

According to Dr. Google, "An author is a person
who writes a book, article, or other written work,
while a publisher is a person or company that
publishes that work, making it available to the
public."

In the case of your editorial, you are acting
as both author and publisher - at the same time.

Assuming I am understanding this correctly.

But since this publication is based in Sweden, it must follow
Swedish law, and we have strict laws about it and a constitution that limits what laws our lawmakers are allowed to pass. You also can see
why freedom of expression is so important here.

Oh, come now. This publication was incepted in the USA, with the
First Amendment taking precedence over everything - "The Congress
shall make no law ... abridging the freedom of speech, or of the
press" - thus ensuring liberty and justice for all.

Here's how it works. This also gives you information about what
you can do if you find what you think may be a violation of the law,
even if in your own country:

Tom Jennings was/is an anarchist.

A responsible publisher (sometimes just called a publisher) is in Swedish legislation a person who, according to the Freedom of
Expression Ordinance and/or the Freedom of Expression Basic Law, is responsible for media publications.

Tom Jennings was not so great on that - imposing four separate
zones on Fidonet - which expanded to six - and then contracted back
to four. With internecine warfare within for much of the time.
Why did he do that? He's an anarchist.

Designating a responsible publisher is one method of achieving constitutional protection for readers as well as writers.

Tom Jennings designated himself. And then he left. Without telling
anybody. But then, he's an anarchist. Had to be true to himself.

Disputes about the responsible publisher are handled by the
Swedish Press, Radio and Television Authority (MPRT).

One editor found a unique way to end disputes about his reign
by getting rid of himself permanently - without naming a successor.

A responsible publisher must be eighteen years of age and must be resident in Sweden but does not have to be a Swedish citizen.

By definitiion (your own) a publisher is a person. Or persons
as the case may be. The sysops who comprise Fidonet. That is who
the publisher of the Fidonews is. They own it. Lock, stock, and
barrel. As such, they can do whatever they want with it.

Now you know...

Fidonet is like Doctors Without Borders.
And also like No Spin Zone, without Bill O'Reilly.

Which is the way the Fidonews should be.
And always be.

For Life,
Lee

--
Fox News Slogan - Rich people paying rich people
to tell middle class people to blame poor people.

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Hello Bj�rn,

EDITORIAL

The Responsible Publisher
by The Publisher (2:2/2)

Many readers are confusing the publisher with the editor, and that is totally understandable because in the English speaking World, the two words actually are used interchangeably.

It doesn't matter.

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2020/12/publisher-or-platform-it-doesnt
-matter


The devil is in the detail. Ted Cruz found out. The hard way.

But since this publication is based in Sweden, it must follow
Swedish law, and we have strict laws about it and a constitution that limits what laws our lawmakers are allowed to pass. You also can see
why freedom of expression is so important here.

Tom Jennings started the Fidonews, based in California, USA.
Does that mean this publication is based in the USA forever?
Of course not. It would bbe silly to even think so.

This publication is owned by the international community of Fidonet
sysops. As such, no one country "owns" the Fidonews.

A publisher is an individual or company that owns or administers
the copyright of a work. That does not mean you as an individual or
a publisher owns the copyright of any author, regardless as to the
location as to where you reside.

Here's how it works. This also gives you information about what
you can do if you find what you think may be a violation of the law,
even if in your own country:

"Publication is the distribution of copies or phonorecords of a work
to the public by sale or other transfer of ownership, or by rental,
lease, or lending." ~ 17 USC Section 101

That is how it really works.

A responsible publisher (sometimes just called a publisher) is in Swedish legislation a person who, according to the Freedom of
Expression Ordinance and/or the Freedom of Expression Basic Law, is responsible for media publications.

As an author, you own the copyright of your work. As such, you can
do with it what you will. As an author, others can do the same. But
the publisher of the Fidonews is *not* Bj�rn Felten. That belongs
to the community at large.

Designating a responsible publisher is one method of achieving constitutional protection for readers as well as writers.

Absolutely. But the role of a publisher is much more than that.
The publisher is responsible for the design, editing, and orientation
process.

Also lots of practice.

Disputes about the responsible publisher are handled by the
Swedish Press, Radio and Television Authority (MPRT).

Who is a "responsible" publisher may be a very questionable matter.

A responsible publisher must be eighteen years of age and must be resident in Sweden but does not have to be a Swedish citizen.

There is no restriction as to where a publisher must be from.
There is also no minimum or maximum age for any publisher.

So what is it with this "age" thing?

We are old enough, and mature enough, to drive at age 16 in the USA.
We are old enough to vote in federal elections at age 18 in the USA.
There is no minimum age for having sex if both are under age 18.
There is also no minimum or maximum age for those who are mentally
challenged. So why should it matter about age at all?

What is the difference between "publishers" and "distributors"?
Should every sysop in Fidonet be held responsible for the content
that others write, whether in the Fidonews or in various echoes?

Now you know...

What makes you think Swedish law is superior to American law?
What makes you think Swedish law is superior to French law?
What makes you think Swedish law is superior to Russian law?
We live in a very big world, with many different countries.
Fidonet is a community of sysops from around the world.
An international community of sysops, communicating with each
other, as well as others from outside.

So why limit yourself to one country? Or one language?
One country in Fidonet tried to do that, limiting itself
to one zone. We all know how well that turned out.

These are just some quetioons that come from the top of my
warped head. Could probably come up with a few pages more by
the end of the day ...

For Life,
Lee

--
You can tell Monopoly is an old game because there's a luxury tax and rich people can go to jail.

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Lee Lofaso -> FidoNews Robot skrev 2024-08-12 22:10:

I am so confused.

I can see that.

Who owns the book, the author or publisher?

You own the book if you have bought it.

As for who owns the right of origin (copyright) of the book, the author. Unlike e.g. in the music industry, where the publisher almost always owns the work. Just pick up any book and your favourite music collection, and look who's after the (C). Crazy, right?

Everybody knows who the publisher is.

The publisher when it's confused with the editor, like in the English-speaking World, maybe.

The Responsible Publisher is another matter entirely. The role can be taken by a bus driver, a school teacher, or anyone else, even if it is usually someone close to the publication.

The RP is the *person* you can sue if you suspect something illegal, such as defamation or incitement to ethnic or racial hatred. It is easier than trying to sue a company. In most cases, the business is the entity that gets sued, so the business isn't always as careful as a single person.

But remember, the RP is a Swedish thing. I guess he/she exists in other countries, too; maybe our readers can tell us. Maybe even in a rebuttal in the Fidonews -- file extension .REB as you can see in the Fidonews Information section.


--

To paraphrase former Minnesota Governor Jesse Ventura:

I'm 76 years old now, so the window is closing. I want to be alive to see the first woman President of the United States of America.

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