• Space programs

    From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Ward Dossche on Tuesday, April 23, 2019 17:46:11
    Hello Ward,

    Vernon von Braun was a good Nazi. A very good Nazi.

    Who is Vernon von Braun?

    Americanized spelling of Wernher von Braun.

    It was a time of disaster for the US space program. The USSR
    was winning everything, as rockets built by the US kept blowing
    up, most of them on the launch pad.

    Then they got a Belgian to head the Atlas-project and things changed.

    It took a few disasters before making the change.

    Mike Pence tried to do that, but he was laughed out of the room
    by NASA scientists. What do you think would have happened had
    Donald Trump made such a speech?

    Bush Minor made such a speech.

    Pence's speech was shorter.

    --Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Ward Dossche on Tuesday, April 23, 2019 17:46:17
    Hello Ward,

    That is one of the main reasons why Commander Neil Armstrong had
    wanted to plant a flag of the United Nations on the Moon. But he
    was over-ruled by his Commander-in-Chief, Richard M. Nixon, who
    ordered him to plant the US flag instead.

    Some years ago I spoke to Aldrin and he said "We went there for all mankind".

    From the astronauts' perspective, I would agree that was their intent.
    However, the astronauts were ordered to plant US flags, and none other.

    The reality is far different than what is believed.

    Believing we went to the Moon is a conspiracy theory. Why would
    anybody think that? Because the lies were used to extort and
    misappropriate money (or funds) for false ends. IOW, the funding
    was used for something other than going to the Moon.

    Look at the budget during that time period. How much was
    allocated to NASA, versus how much was allocated for defense.
    Remember, the lunar landings occurred between 1969 and 1972.
    Richard Nixon was president, his number one stated priority
    being to end the war in Vietnam.

    How much could be saved by faking a lunar landing, using those
    funds for illegal activities in Indochina?

    How many of those US flags remain standing is unknown, as they
    could have been blown away in the lunar atmosphere since then.

    The Moon has no atmosphere but an exosphere, Nothing of the kind that will make a flag wave. But we do know that at least one toppled over when the Lunar Module blasted-off.

    The Moon is within the atmosphere of the Earth. It may not
    be much of an atmosphere, but it is an atmosphere.

    --Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Dan Clough on Tuesday, April 23, 2019 17:46:22
    Hello Dan,

    It was the US who actually *DID* put men on the moon.

    That is only a claim by NASA, not proven fact.

    You're an idiot.

    Aren't we all?

    The US does not have a monopoly on ignorance.
    Neither does anyplace else.

    Please stop responding to my messages, I'm not even remotely
    interested in what you have to say.

    According to Wikipedia, 28% of Americans believe that the
    Moon landings were faked, along with 25% of Britons and 28%
    of Russians.

    But hey. You believe whatever you want to believe.
    It is only your own imagination that stops you.

    --Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to BOB ACKLEY on Tuesday, April 23, 2019 17:46:39
    Hello Bob,

    How many Swedish flags has Sweden's astronauts planted on the
    Moon? More
    than the United States? Or even as many?

    Is that your definition of a space program? Putting flags on the
    moon?
    Jeeezzz...

    The US is busily creating a Space Command, or whatever they're going to call it, to control the US military off planet.

    Jointly controlled by the US, EU, and Russia.
    That is what Trump and Putin were talking about,
    in private, in Helsinki.

    It seems to me that the US is a signatory to a treaty forbidding the militarization of space

    US President Donald Trump is militarizing space.
    So is Russian President Vladimir Putin.
    Do you think Chinese President Xi is also doing the same?

    --Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Gregory Deyss on Tuesday, April 23, 2019 17:46:44
    Hello Greg,

    If you want - send me a netmail, indicating your home address
    and I w
    send you a package of Swedish Fish candies.

    No thank you - I try to steer clear of things with high sugar
    content.

    As you wish.
    There are much worse things to consume then sugar.
    Like saturated FAT,that you get from meat and cheese.

    Fat is good. Including saturated fat. As well as trans-fats,
    for those who love New Orleans foods.

    I eat primarily a plant based diet and never compromise on taste.

    Refined sugar can be a problem, if consumed like a glutton.
    But in small amounts, or natural sugars in foods, are not really
    problematic. Over-consumption of anything can make one look like
    a pig, not just sugar.

    Maybe you as well as others did not know that
    The American Diabetes Association
    American Cancer Society
    Susan G. Koman Organization
    as well as other like organizations in the world suggest to their
    followers
    to consume things that the world health organization has classified as a carcinogen.

    If we all did that, nobody would be left alive.

    Meanwhile...
    These organizations are getting Millions of Dollars from both the Beef Industry and Big Dairy.

    Lamb Chops and Goat Milk. Gelato for dessert.
    That's the ticket for success!

    Then Big Pharma works the other side of the street.

    100 million Americans on statin drugs.
    Including 73-year-old Donald Trump, who gets massive doses.
    Big Pharma is killing us all. Both young and old alike.

    The most commonly prescribed statin drug in the US.
    Know how much the wholesale cost is? $1.30 for a 90-day supply,
    made in India. Sometimes pulled by the FDA for having glass shards.
    Know how much Big Pharma is charging customers? A hell of a lot
    more than $1.30 for a 30-day supply ...

    Ditto for the other six statin drugs prescribed in the US.

    It is all scam, based on a discredited theory that cholesterol
    is evil. Fact is, there is no "good" or "bad" cholesterol, as
    both types of cholesterol are needed for human survival.

    A $29 Billion Dollar industry. Money talks, people listen.
    Doctors prescribe the drugs, getting a small kickback for their
    sales. This is a lifetime prescription. Once they make it,
    it is income for life. The more prescriptions, the more they
    make. Even if it kills all the patients in their care.

    "First, do not harm." ~Oath made by hypocrites

    --Lee

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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Lee Lofaso on Tuesday, April 23, 2019 21:57:51
    Fat is good. Including saturated fat. As well as trans-fats,
    for those who love New Orleans foods.

    Might taste to you but there is nothing sexy about being obese.

    If we all did that, nobody would be left alive.

    You say that but it remains just your opinion, it is far from a fact.
    I am vegan and I very much alive.

    I need not worry about being dependent on statin drugs or having those types
    of operations of the heart.

    . ______
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  • From TIM RICHARDSON@1:123/140 to WARD DOSSCHE on Tuesday, April 23, 2019 20:59:00
    On 04-20-19, WARD DOSSCHE said to TIM RICHARDSON:

    How many Swedish flags has Sweden's astronauts planted on the Moon? More than the United States? Or even as many?

    It's easy to claim credit for something of which you basically only WD>provide the finances ... a lot of German, Polish, Belginese, Danish and WD>other languages were spoken during the development of the Atlas, Saturn, WD>Mercury, Gemini and Apollo programmes.


    . It was Americans who went to the Moon! And planted an
    American flag there. No Poles, Belgians, Danes or Germans were anywhere around in the rockets that went there. It was an American enterprise all the way!





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  • From TIM RICHARDSON@1:123/140 to BJ╓RN FELTEN on Tuesday, April 23, 2019 19:42:00
    On 04-19-19, BJ�RN FELTEN said to TIM RICHARDSON:

    How many Swedish flags has Sweden's astronauts planted on the Moon? More than the United States? Or even as many?

    Is that your definition of a space program? Putting flags on the moon? BF>Jeeezzz...


    So....your answer is `None!' `Zip!' `Zeeroo'! `Nada!'

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  • From TIM RICHARDSON@1:123/140 to LEE LOFASO on Tuesday, April 23, 2019 19:45:00
    On 04-20-19, LEE LOFASO said to TIM RICHARDSON:

    Hello Tim,

    Perhaps Sweden should have its own space program.

    We've had since 1964 and still doing well, thank you very much.

    How many Swedish flags has Sweden's astronauts planted on the Moon? More than the United States? Or even as many?

    How many Swedish "astronauts" have even been to space?

    The US has astronauts.
    Russia has cosmonauts.
    China has taikonauts.

    But what the heck does Sweden have? Although it may have
    a space program, how many Swedes have actually flown on a
    Swedish rocketship? And what does one call a spacefaring
    Swede? I am not sure there is any such word for it.


    Sweden built a Moon rocket. They trained astronauts. They're ready to go.


    And go they will....just as soon as they finish winding the rubber band! Gotta get it good and tight.

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  • From TIM RICHARDSON@1:123/140 to BJ╓RN FELTEN on Tuesday, April 23, 2019 20:18:00
    On 04-19-19, BJ�RN FELTEN said to TIM RICHARDSON:

    How many Swedish flags has Sweden's astronauts planted on the Moon? More than the United States? Or even as many?

    Is that your definition of a space program? Putting flags on the moon? BF>Jeeezzz...


    BTW....in order to get *to* the Moon, you gotta go through *outer space*! That qualifies as a *space program*!



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  • From BOB ACKLEY@1:123/140 to DAN CLOUGH on Wednesday, April 24, 2019 16:06:18
    Lee Lofaso wrote to Dan Clough <=-

    It was the US who actually *DID* put men on the moon.

    That is only a claim by NASA, not proven fact.

    You're an idiot.

    No, he's a troll, he's been a troll in Fidonet for well over 20 years.
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  • From BOB ACKLEY@1:123/140 to TIM RICHARDSON on Wednesday, April 24, 2019 16:13:34
    On 04-19-19, BJ�RN FELTEN said to TIM RICHARDSON:

    How many Swedish flags has Sweden's astronauts planted on the
    Moon? More
    than the United States? Or even as many?

    Is that your definition of a space program? Putting flags on the
    moon?
    Jeeezzz...


    BTW....in order to get *to* the Moon, you gotta go through *outer
    space*!

    No you don't. "Outer space" is outside the solar system. "Space" is
    outside this planet's atmosphere.
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  • From Dan Clough@1:135/115 to BOB ACKLEY on Wednesday, April 24, 2019 18:50:00
    BOB ACKLEY wrote to DAN CLOUGH <=-

    It was the US who actually *DID* put men on the moon.

    That is only a claim by NASA, not proven fact.

    DC > You're an idiot.

    No, he's a troll, he's been a troll in Fidonet for well over 20
    years.

    No doubt. He's both then.

    Best cure for a troll is to ignore them.



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  • From David Drummond@3:640/305 to TIM RICHARDSON on Thursday, April 25, 2019 11:22:53
    On 24/04/2019 10:59, TIM RICHARDSON -> WARD DOSSCHE wrote:

    It's easy to claim credit for something of which you basically only
    provide the finances ... a lot of German, Polish, Belginese, Danish and
    other languages were spoken during the development of the Atlas, Saturn,
    Mercury, Gemini and Apollo programmes.


    . It was Americans who went to the Moon! And planted an
    American flag there. No Poles, Belgians, Danes or Germans were anywhere around in the rockets that went there. It was an American enterprise all
    the way!

    The astronauts may have been USAmerican - the technology and scientists were imported. They even had to rely on Australian radio telescopes for telemetry.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to BOB ACKLEY on Thursday, April 25, 2019 14:13:26
    Hello Bob,

    BTW....in order to get *to* the Moon, you gotta go through *outer
    space*!

    No you don't. "Outer space" is outside the solar system. "Space" is outside this planet's atmosphere.

    The Moon is within Earth's atmosphere.

    --Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to All on Thursday, April 25, 2019 17:19:52
    "Trolls just want to have fun." ~Anon

    It was the US who actually *DID* put men on the moon.

    That is only a claim by NASA, not proven fact.

    You're an idiot.

    I am neither an idiot nor an idiot troll.

    Please stop responding to my messages, I'm not even remotely
    interested in what you have to say.

    Haters gonna hate, trolls gonna troll.

    Fact is, very few people even know what a troll is.
    And even fewer have actually seen a real, live one.
    Except a few folks in Scandinavia, who run across
    those mythical creatures from time to time.

    If it were not for trolls, nobody would be discussing
    anything. That is why trolls are both loved and loathed
    by all. At the same time.

    Of course, as you know, there are many different kinds
    of trolls. In fact, it can be said that everybody is a
    troll, of one kind or another. Perhaps even multiple
    kinds.

    Here is a partial list of different kinds of trolls -

    https://darkpsychology.co/internet-troll-definition

    For those who still do not believe that trolls exist,
    do keep in mind a very real troll has been here since
    at least 2002. One of the originals. Direct from
    Scandinavia.

    These mythical creatures from Scandinavian folklore
    are very real, not mere figments of somebody's wild
    and overactive imagination. They are known to be
    ugly, dirty, angry creatures, that live in dark
    places, like caves or underneath bridges, waiting
    to snatch up anything that passses under for a quick
    meal.

    The Fidonet troll is a modern version of the
    mythological version. Instead of living in dark
    places, such as caves, these creatures hide behind
    their computer screens, and actively go out of
    their way to cause trouble on Fidonet. Like the
    mythological troll, the Fidonet troll is angry and
    disruptive in every way - often for no reason at
    all.

    Does that make me a Fidonet troll? Does that make
    you a Fidonet troll? Perhaps it makes us all Fidonet
    trolls, with a very real troll from Scandinavia as
    editor/moderator of the Fidonews.

    .. Ignorance can be cured. Stupid is forever.

    How do you spot a real troll? Look for the horns ...

    --Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to BOB ACKLEY on Thursday, April 25, 2019 17:20:06
    Hello Bob,

    It was the US who actually *DID* put men on the moon.

    That is only a claim by NASA, not proven fact.

    You're an idiot.

    No, he's a troll, he's been a troll in Fidonet for well over 20 years.

    That may be. But what kind of troll am I? That is the question ...

    "Trolls just want to have fun." ~Anon

    --Lee

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  • From Gerrit Kuehn@2:240/12 to Lee Lofaso on Friday, April 26, 2019 20:36:56
    Hello Lee!

    25 Apr 19 14:13, Lee Lofaso wrote to BOB ACKLEY:


    The Moon is within Earth's atmosphere.

    Nope. The atmosphere of the Earth reaches up to about 10.000 km (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmosphere_of_Earth#Stratification) whereas the orbital distance of the moon is almost 400.000 km (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon).


    Regards,
    Gerrit

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Gerrit Kuehn on Saturday, April 27, 2019 00:31:14
    Hello Gerrit,

    The Moon is within Earth's atmosphere.

    Nope. The atmosphere of the Earth reaches up to about 10.000 km (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmosphere_of_Earth#Stratification) whereas the orbital distance of the moon is almost 400.000 km (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon).

    According to those in the know, mankind has never left Earth's
    atmosphere, which means those Little Green Men from Mars might
    really be from Mars -

    https://apple.news/A8OgIHSfkRJK-UNdgWeaI3g


    --Lee

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  • From nathanael culver@3:712/886 to Gerrit Kuehn on Saturday, April 27, 2019 13:32:02
    Nope. The atmosphere of the Earth reaches up to about 10.000 km (see

    There's a a recent study or two which claim the earth is surrounded by a
    large hydrogen cloud (a geocrona) which extends out to about twice the radius of the moon's orbit. So if you count that as part of the earth's atmosphere, then the moon does indeed lie inside it.

    This time, quite by accident, Lee may actually be right.

    https://bigthink.com/surprising-science/the-moon-is-inside-earths-atmosphere-cl aims-study

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  • From Gerrit Kuehn@2:240/12 to Lee Lofaso on Saturday, April 27, 2019 09:31:32
    Hello Lee!

    27 Apr 19 00:31, Lee Lofaso wrote to Gerrit Kuehn:


    The Moon is within Earth's atmosphere.

    Nope. The atmosphere of the Earth reaches up to about 10.000 km (see
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmosphere_of_Earth#Stratification)
    whereas the orbital distance of the moon is almost 400.000 km (see
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon).

    According to those in the know, mankind has never left Earth's
    atmosphere, which means those Little Green Men from Mars might
    really be from Mars -

    Which has, true or not, nothing to do with the distance between Moon and Earth,
    or the extension of Earth's atmosphere.


    Regards,
    Gerrit

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  • From Gerrit Kuehn@2:240/12 to nathanael culver on Saturday, April 27, 2019 09:53:52
    Hello nathanael!

    27 Apr 19 13:32, nathanael culver wrote to Gerrit Kuehn:


    This time, quite by accident, Lee may actually be right.

    https://bigthink.com/surprising-science/the-moon-is-inside-earths-atm osphere-cl
    aims-study

    That's an interesting point, I do remember when SOHO was launched, and the great excitement its data brought to many scientists. The institute I was working for back then even had a tiny link to the radiometric calibration of SOHO's VUV telescope.

    Anyway, ESA people now say (see https://www.esa.int/Our_Activities/Space_Science/Earth_s_atmosphere_stretches_ out_to_the_Moon_and_beyond)

    ---
    The denser dayside region of hydrogen is still rather sparse, with just 70 atoms per cubic centimeter at 60 000 kilometers above Earths surface, and about 0.2 atoms at the Moons distance.
    "On Earth we would call it vacuum, so this extra source of hydrogen is not significant enough to facilitate space exploration," says Igor.
    ---


    So this rather sounds like a re-definition of atmosphere than anything else. ;-)


    Regards,
    Gerrit

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  • From nathanael culver@3:712/886 to Gerrit Kuehn on Sunday, April 28, 2019 08:25:43
    So this rather sounds like a re-definition of atmosphere than anything else. ;-)

    Yeah. One's position on whether the moon is inside the earth's atmosphere rather depends on how one defines "atmosphere", and that seems to be the crux of the issue here.

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  • From David Drummond@3:640/305 to Lee Lofaso on Sunday, April 28, 2019 16:14:47
    On 27/04/2019 08:31, Lee Lofaso -> Gerrit Kuehn wrote:

    Nope. The atmosphere of the Earth reaches up to about 10.000 km (see
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmosphere_of_Earth#Stratification) whereas
    the orbital distance of the moon is almost 400.000 km (see
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon).

    According to those in the know, mankind has never left Earth's
    atmosphere, [...]

    Which suggests that "those in the know" don't know at all.

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  • From Gerrit Kuehn@2:240/12 to nathanael culver on Sunday, April 28, 2019 13:51:04
    Hello nathanael!

    28 Apr 19 08:25, nathanael culver wrote to Gerrit Kuehn:

    So this rather sounds like a re-definition of atmosphere than
    anything else. ;-)

    Yeah. One's position on whether the moon is inside the earth's
    atmosphere
    rather depends on how one defines "atmosphere", and that seems to be
    the crux
    of the issue here.

    Well, why should we care, after all? It is certainly an interesting thing to see, but as ESA folks already wrote, there is not much impact on anything else.


    Regards,
    Gerrit

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  • From nathanael culver@3:712/886 to Gerrit Kuehn on Sunday, April 28, 2019 22:47:08
    thing to see, but as ESA folks already wrote, there is not much impact
    on anything else.

    No, there isn't. But I find such things interesting from a philosophical aspect, I suppose.

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  • From Gerrit Kuehn@2:240/12 to nathanael culver on Sunday, April 28, 2019 19:56:34
    Hello nathanael!

    28 Apr 19 22:47, nathanael culver wrote to Gerrit Kuehn:


    No, there isn't. But I find such things interesting from a
    philosophical
    aspect, I suppose.

    Yeah, you can always ask for the "best" definition of the term "atmosphere". We
    all have a clear picture in mind when we hear the word, I guess. However, as always there are corner cases that might lead to funny results.


    Regards,
    Gerrit

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Gerrit Kuehn on Monday, April 29, 2019 01:37:52
    Hello Gerrit,

    The Moon is within Earth's atmosphere.

    Nope. The atmosphere of the Earth reaches up to about 10.000 km (see
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmosphere_of_Earth#Stratification)
    whereas the orbital distance of the moon is almost 400.000 km (see
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon).

    According to those in the know, mankind has never left Earth's
    atmosphere, which means those Little Green Men from Mars might
    really be from Mars -

    Which has, true or not, nothing to do with the distance between Moon and Earth, or the extension of Earth's atmosphere.

    It is possible the Moon has been colonized by Little Green Men
    from Mars. Pictures of spheres on the surface of the Moon have
    been taken by Apollo astronauts. Nobody has a clue who built
    them, or if the Moon itself is populated.

    --Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to David Drummond on Monday, April 29, 2019 19:17:02
    Hello David,

    Nope. The atmosphere of the Earth reaches up to about 10.000 km (see
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmosphere_of_Earth#Stratification)
    whereas
    the orbital distance of the moon is almost 400.000 km (see
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon).

    According to those in the know, mankind has never left Earth's
    atmosphere, [...]

    Which suggests that "those in the know" don't know at all.

    Well, since nobody has ever been there, that leaves only Little
    Green Men from Mars ...

    --Lee

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  • From David Drummond@3:640/305 to Lee Lofaso on Tuesday, April 30, 2019 10:21:19
    On 30/04/2019 03:17, Lee Lofaso -> David Drummond wrote:

    According to those in the know, mankind has never left Earth's
    atmosphere, [...]

    Which suggests that "those in the know" don't know at all.

    Well, since nobody has ever been there, that leaves only Little
    Green Men from Mars ...

    You know this for sure?

    How does one prove that mankind has never been there - lack of footprints? Of course someone would have to go there to not see the footprints...

    --

    Gang warily
    David

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  • From alexander koryagin@2:5020/2140.2 to Nathanael culver on Tuesday, April 30, 2019 22:01:36
    Hi, Nathanael Culver!
    I read your message from 27.04.2019 06:17

    nc> https://bigthink.com/surprising-science/the-moon-is-inside-earth
    nc> s-atmosphere-cl aims-study

    In this case we can also say that the Earth goes through the Sun
    atmosphere which is spread by the Solar wind. ;)

    Bye, Nathanael!
    Alexander Koryagin
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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to David Drummond on Tuesday, April 30, 2019 21:25:33
    Hello David,

    According to those in the know, mankind has never left Earth's
    atmosphere, [...]

    Which suggests that "those in the know" don't know at all.

    Well, since nobody has ever been there, that leaves only Little
    Green Men from Mars ...

    You know this for sure?

    H.G. Wells did.

    How does one prove that mankind has never been there - lack of footprints? Of course someone would have to go there to not see the footprints...

    Tom Cruise fought them off on Earth so nobody would have to go there.

    --Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to alexander koryagin on Tuesday, April 30, 2019 23:09:59
    Hello Alexander,

    https://bigthink.com/surprising-science/the-moon-is-inside-earth
    s-atmosphere-cl aims-study

    In this case we can also say that the Earth goes through the Sun atmosphere which is spread by the Solar wind. ;)

    https://youtu.be/yIor3JgQCr8

    How about a galactic wave hitting the Earth, and then the Sun,
    reflected back, with the Sun going mini-nova, leaving the Earth
    in cinders?

    It has happened before, according to the mad scientist, noted
    above, who claims we are due for an encore performance sometime
    around 2020 to 2022.

    --Lee

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  • From David Drummond@3:640/305 to Lee Lofaso on Wednesday, May 01, 2019 10:55:37
    On 1/05/2019 05:25, Lee Lofaso -> David Drummond wrote:
    Hello David,

    According to those in the know, mankind has never left Earth's
    atmosphere, [...]

    Which suggests that "those in the know" don't know at all.

    Well, since nobody has ever been there, that leaves only Little
    Green Men from Mars ...

    You know this for sure?

    H.G. Wells did.

    His Martians were big tall fuckers....

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    David

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  • From alexander koryagin@2:5020/2140.2 to Lee Lofaso on Wednesday, May 01, 2019 14:27:54
    Hi, Lee Lofaso!
    I read your message from 30.04.2019 22:09

    nc>>> https://bigthink.com/surprising-science/the-moon-is-insi
    nc>>> de-earth s-atmosphere-cl aims-study
    ak>> In this case we can also say that the Earth goes through
    ak>> the Sun atmosphere which is spread by the Solar wind. ;)
    LL> https://youtu.be/yIor3JgQCr8
    LL> How about a galactic wave hitting the Earth, and then the Sun,
    LL> reflected back, with the Sun going mini-nova, leaving the Earth
    LL> in cinders?

    We know little indeed. For instance, the scientists cannot guarantee
    that the Earth itself will not be a lava inferno in 2022. They know well
    that periodically the Earth gets twisted bowels, and its all volcanoes
    begin erupting across the planet. Why? Nobody knows how these bows
    constructed and what we can expect.

    LL> It has happened before, according to the mad scientist, noted
    LL> above, who claims we are due for an encore performance sometime
    LL> around 2020 to 2022.



    Bye, Lee!
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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to David Drummond on Wednesday, May 01, 2019 16:41:52
    Hello David,

    According to those in the know, mankind has never left Earth's
    atmosphere, [...]

    Which suggests that "those in the know" don't know at all.

    Well, since nobody has ever been there, that leaves only Little
    Green Men from Mars ...

    You know this for sure?

    H.G. Wells did.

    His Martians were big tall fuckers....

    The machines the Martians rode around in were big tall fuckers.
    The Martians themselves were tiny, but deadly.

    Which is why we can all thank Tom Cruise for having saved mankind.

    The War of the Worlds
    The War of the Worlds 2
    The War of the Worlds 3

    Okay, Tom Cruise only saved the world once in that series.

    Edge of Tomorrow - Tom Cruise saves the world. And himself.
    Again, and again, and again, and again ...

    Edge of Tomorrow 2 - Tom Cruise saves the world. And himself.
    Again, and again, and again, and again ...

    Edge of Tomorrow 3 -

    --Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to alexander koryagin on Wednesday, May 01, 2019 17:47:58
    Hello Alexander,

    https://bigthink.com/surprising-science/the-moon-is-insi
    de-earth s-atmosphere-cl aims-study
    In this case we can also say that the Earth goes through
    the Sun atmosphere which is spread by the Solar wind. ;)
    https://youtu.be/yIor3JgQCr8
    How about a galactic wave hitting the Earth, and then the Sun,
    reflected back, with the Sun going mini-nova, leaving the Earth
    in cinders?

    We know little indeed.

    We do know a cloud of cosmic dust is headed this way. What will
    happen when it gets here is anybody's guess, but we do know what
    happened in times past.

    For instance, the scientists cannot guarantee that the Earth itself will
    not
    be a lava inferno in 2022.

    The Earth could get smacked by an asteroid several miles in diameter
    like in the movie "Sudden Impact", or any of a number of other
    end of the world scenarios. But nobody seems to worry about those
    kind of things. Except for chronic worry-warts.

    They know well that periodically the Earth gets twisted bowels, and its
    all
    volcanoes begin erupting across the planet. Why? Nobody knows how these bows constructed and what we can expect.

    Actually, volcano eruptions can be rated on a scale called the
    volcanic explosivity index. It works kind of like the Richter
    scale for volcanos.

    The volcanic explosivity index is an eight-point gauge of the
    amount of lava and ash they produce. This gives us an idea of
    what we can expect.

    Of course, if all the volcanoes in the world erupt at the same
    time, all bets are off. In which case we can all safely say we
    are doomed.

    Anyway, this index measures the height to which the ash flies,
    the duration of the eruption, and a number of other factors.

    Here are some examples -

    Nevada del Ruiz 3
    Soufri�re Hill 3
    Pel�e 4
    Eyjafjallaj�kull 4
    Vesuvius 5
    St. Helens 5
    Krakatoa 6
    Tambora 7

    That leaves us the 8s.

    Coming soon, to your neighborhood, and mine, and everybody else's.

    It has happened before, according to the mad scientist, noted
    above, who claims we are due for an encore performance sometime
    around 2020 to 2022.

    "We're lucky we are in a period where the world hasn't seen
    a `large' volcano." ~Kent

    Yellowstone is a bigger threat to us than an asteroid impact.
    And what do you think we can do to stop it from happening?
    Capping a geyser like Old Faithful might actually trigger the
    event rather than keep it from destoying us.

    --Lee

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