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Ward Dossche - 2:292/854
Maybe time for some realism. The nodelist may be what it is but
numbers don't lie.
There were days when Fidonet eclipsed around 36.000 nodes in the
mid-1990-ies but that is like 25 years ago.
These are today's numbers, 915 individual sysop-names. There may
be some variation depending on how one looks at the nodelist but
all administrative overhead, Down, Hold and vanity-numbers were
removed and then that is the meager result.
ZONE-1 302 33,01%
ZONE-2 571 62,40%
ZONE-3 24 2,26%
ZONE-4 18 1,97%
Thanks for those numbers, Ward. Very interesting how much things
have changed.
Not sure what the comment on "realism" means... I think we all
know that Fidonet is not what it was 25 years ago.
At least it's still around, right?
Ward Dossche wrote to Dan Clough <=-
Thanks for those numbers, Ward. Very interesting how much things
have changed.
Thank you sir.
The interesting thing is ... there is growth. Mot much but I have
noticed it in the entries running BBS\Fidonet-systems.
My intention is to run this again in a few months and see where
we get. There still is dead wood ...
Not sure what the comment on "realism" means... I think we all
know that Fidonet is not what it was 25 years ago.
"realism" .... good point ... I would say, but I'm going to use
the wrong words, the relative unimportance of what we're doing,
the relative unimportance of the Elflords (including myself) and
let's not be too serious about ourselves.
On the other hand, I still learn every week by following some of
the technical platforms hence Fidonet has been a tremendous
learning experience that could not have been offered by the
internet.
There was a lot of good in Fidonet ... still is.
At least it's still around, right?
Absolutely ... I love some of the stuff that is being handed
around here ...
Me too. Thanks for the civilized reply.
Me too. Thanks for the civilized reply.
Ehr ... am I not always civilized? 8-)
Me too. Thanks for the civilized reply.
Ehr ... am I not always civilized? 8-)
You're a BARBARIAN! :P :P :P
This is a real snapshot of Ward:
https://media.titanbooks.com/catalog/products/4202/hagar1974.jpg
I thought Ward's beard was white, and I don't think those from Belgium
are known for the horned hats. The beer tankard strikes some truth
though.
with smoked salmonm
Please be gentle on Fabio. I think he has true Roman blood in his
veins and hasn't come to terms yet with the fact that the Barbarians overran the West-Roman empire in 406 after the latter substituted
butter for Olive oil ... extra virgin Roman olive oil.
I thought Ward's beard was white, and I don't think those from Belgium
are known for the horned hats. The beer tankard strikes some truth
though.
https://media.titanbooks.com/catalog/products/4202/hagar1974.jpg
I thought Ward's beard was white, and I don't think those from
Belgium are known for the horned hats.
Speaking of salmon, you often comment on the disgusting habit the northernmost Swedes have with fermenting their herring. The procedure actually is quite similar to the making of Asian fish sauce, BTW, but that's another story...
http://eljaco.se/FILES/FNEWS/FNEWSY10.ZIP
Are you still angry because you was conquer by Caesar? :P :P :P
As I wrote before, you're a Barbarian, gentle and polite but always a barabarian! :P :P :P :P
I thought Ward's beard was white, and I don't think those from
Belgium are known for the horned hats.
Actually, not even Vikings had these, it's more like a modern myth (maybe introduced by Wagner's Ring opera stage design).
Someone told me the horned hat was a Hollywood invention.
Actually, not even Vikings had these, it's more like a modern myth
(maybe introduced by Wagner's Ring opera stage design).
Excavations from early Viking settlements confirm that too.
Someone told me the horned hat was a Hollywood invention.
Wagner's "Ring" premiered in 1876 and featured nordic warriors wearing such helmets
Wagner's "Ring" premiered in 1876 and featured nordic warriors
wearing such helmets
Was there any Viking ships portrayed in that opera? Or was it only blond, clean-shaved, blue-eyed, land-based Arian type of warriors?
I.e. as far from a Viking type that you can get?
Yes, we up here in the Nordic countries are well aware of the
romantic picture of the Arian warrior that was popular in the mid
1800s -- it was even up here, not only in the former Prussia.
Fabio,
Are you still angry because you was conquer by Caesar? :P :P :PThere are only 2 things Ceasar is famous for. One is a salad named
after him, and that we owe even to Las Vegas and a hotel owned by
the Maffia.
Wagner's "Ring" premiered in 1876 and featured nordic warriors wearing
such helmets
Was there any Viking ships portrayed in that opera? Or was it only blond, clean-shaved, blue-eyed, land-based Arian type of warriors?
I.e. as far from a Viking type that you can get?
Yes, we up here in the Nordic countries are well aware of the romantic picture of the Arian warrior that was popular in the mid 1800s -- it was even up here, not only in the former Prussia.
hasActually, not even Vikings had these, it's more like a modern myth
(maybe introduced by Wagner's Ring opera stage design).
Excavations from early Viking settlements confirm that too.
Well, it's kind of a negative confirmation in that case: no such helment
even been found.such
Someone told me the horned hat was a Hollywood invention.
Wagner's "Ring" premiered in 1876 and featured nordic warriors wearing
helmets, certainly predating any Hollywood activities. As the operasbecame
quite popular, it is probably safe to assume that it spread from there.
https://media.titanbooks.com/catalog/products/4202/hagar1974.jpg
I thought Ward's beard was white, and I don't think those from
Belgium are known for the horned hats.
Actually, not even Vikings had these, it's more like a modern myth
(maybe introduced by Wagner's Ring opera stage design).
Fake news! Wagner did not include "wings on helmets" as any part
of his opera.
And he did write four parts, not just one.
https://media.titanbooks.com/catalog/products/4202/hagar1974.jpg
I thought Ward's beard was white, and I don't think those from
Belgium are known for the horned hats.
Actually, not even Vikings had these, it's more like a modern myth
(maybe introduced by Wagner's Ring opera stage design).
Yes - I think I knew that already....
Fake news! Wagner did not include "wings on helmets" as any part
of his opera.
Weren't we talking about horns? Well, anyway, of course there are wings, too:
http://www.wagneroperas.com/1876ringproductiontop1.jpg
Easy enough to see?
And he did write four parts, not just one.
Yeah, it's a cycle. I was talking about the "Ring" as this is the common German short name for the whole cycle (full name "Der Ring des Nibelungen").
Looking into the Wikipedia page I referenced, this is the common abbreviation in English, too). Maybe you can stop trying to create a sensation?
http://www.wagneroperas.com/1876ringproductiontop1.jpg
Easy enough to see?
The 18th century Zombie Cultural Symbol is an old trope of Wagner,
which he used for religious ceremonial or ritual purposes.
Wagner was a composer, not a costume designer. It was Carl Emil
Doepler who designed winged helmets for Wagner's opera,
Maybe you can stop trying to create a
sensation?
Adolf Hitler created a sensation by using Wagner's work, not me.
http://www.wagneroperas.com/1876ringproductiontop1.jpg
Easy enough to see?
The 18th century Zombie Cultural Symbol is an old trope of Wagner,
which he used for religious ceremonial or ritual purposes.
I'll take this as a "YES".
Wagner was a composer, not a costume designer. It was Carl Emil
Doepler who designed winged helmets for Wagner's opera,
I never said Wagner designed the costumes himself.
Anyway, you'll certainly admit that he worked together closely with the designer and had a huge say on the outcome.
The winged helmets as well as the horned helmets were part of the premiere plays in 1876, see (including photo) here: https://thornews.com/2018/01/11/the-confusing-horned-helmets- depicted-in-the-oseberg-viking-age-tapestries/
thisMaybe you can stop trying to create a
sensation?
Adolf Hitler created a sensation by using Wagner's work, not me.
I'll take this as a "NO", and there'll be no further comment from me on
topic.
Anyway, you'll certainly admit that he worked together closely with
the designer and had a huge say on the outcome.
You know nothing about Wagner or his writings.
Wagner treated opera as drama. His compositions was theatre as
a form of social, political, and sexual debate - to the society in
which he lived. Doepler's visual interpretation was his own, not necessarly anything that Wagner envisioned.
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