Hello Everybody,

"How dare you!" ~Greta Thunberg, a Swedish 16-year-old girl,
scolding leaders of the world at UN Climate Change Summit.

"My message is that we'll be watching you."

[..]

"We are in the beginning of a mass extinction, and all you
can talk about is the money and fairy tales of eternal economic
growth. How dare you!"

I wonder what US President Donald Trump will say to that.
I wonder what other world leaders will say to that.
I wonder what every adult in the world will say to that.

Perhaps our Swedish editor of the Fidonews would like to have
a say. Or perhaps not. It seems to me the little girl from
Sweden is more grown up than us all, including adults in Sweden.

And. One other thing.

The Stare.

Who can ever forget The Stare?

If a picture could say 1,000 words, The Stare said 100,000.

What a 16-year-old Swedish girl could tell the world, without
saying a single word. The Stare, as Trump walked across the room,
really says it all.

"You are failing us. But the young people are starting to
understand your betrayal."

Oh, what chilling words. With yet more to come.

"The eyes of all future generations are upon you. And if you
choose to fail us, I say, we will never forgive you!"

And them came The Stare. As Donald Trump walked across the room,
trying to find a place to hide.

Oh, if looks could kill ...

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Hello Everybody,

"How dare you!" ~Greta Thunberg, a Swedish 16-year-old girl,
scolding leaders of the world at UN Climate Change Summit.

"My message is that we'll be watching you."

She's a very inspiring young lady. I hope world leaders everywhere will pay attention to what she is saying.

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"My message is that we'll be watching you."

She's a very inspiring young lady. I hope world leaders everywhere will
pay attention to what she is saying.

No, she is not ... she is scripted all the way ... reading from a paper ... reading from a teleprompter.

There are "no" interviews with Greta Thunberg which are not scripted.

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She's a very inspiring young lady. I hope world leaders everywhere will
pay attention to what she is saying.

No, she is not

I think she is.

... she is scripted all the way ... reading from a paper ...
reading from a teleprompter.

With very few exceptions most of what what we see and hear on the public stage is scripted and practiced.

There are "no" interviews with Greta Thunberg which are not scripted.

I don't know Greta Thunberg or how she got to the stage. But I think she meant what she said and said it well.

She was obviously scared, but did quite well with a powerful and important message.

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With very few exceptions most of what what we see and hear on the public stage is scripted and practiced.

But most of these people, when shoved a microphone under their nose, will be capable of coming-up with whole sentences and reply to questions, not just a few rehearsed one-liners.

I don't know Greta Thunberg or how she got to the stage. But I think she meant what she said and said it well.

She read from a paper what someone had written on that paper and rehearsed it with that person, her father, who is also trying to push a book about his daughter. Written by himself.

Being Swedish she will be the recipient of the Nobel Peace Prize. As we know, the Norwegian Nobel Committee is famous for other silly recipients, most recent
Barack Obama for achieving nothing.

She was obviously scared, but did quite well with a powerful and
important message.

I'm not questioning the message.

In the past (like 20 years ago) I have worked for the UN on international meetings about the environment and I remember very well standing next to Severn
Cullis-Suzuki. Don't know her? How come I am not surprized...

In 1992, aged 12, she attended Earth Summit in Rio de Janeiro and was allowed to present a naive statement which in the meantime is called "The Girl Who Silenced the World for 5 Minutes".

A strong statement, scripted, but she obviously knew what she was saying, not like Greta who has to memorize every statement before saying it. I know, she has Asperger's, but that is of no consequence.

Please look at this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJJGuIZVfLM

In the run-up to the 2002 Conference on Sustainable Development in
Johannesburg (for which the Secretary-General of the UN asked me to volunteer my services) I had the pleasure of sitting 3 days next to a now older Severn Cullis-Suzuki, about 20-21, who now had no scripted paper and was kind of helpless when being asked a question.

She became a TV-show host and an author ... then vanished from the stage.

Or look at the statement by Samantha Smith who wrote Yuri Andropov in 1982
then aged 10 ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TgCEvWa16Y

She wrote a book about her Russian experience and became a supporting actress in "Lime Street" with Robert Wagner. She died in a plane crash aged 15.

And now this Greta.

Is it a coincidence that we always are confronted with young girls? Are their statements so much more meaningful? Aren't there any boys saying anything meaningful? Or is this indeed "scripted by the media" ... creating news.

Greta will get the Nobel Peace Prize and by the time she is 20 she will be forgotten because she is a one trick poney. Just like Severn Cullis-Suzuki ... Samantha Smith unfortunately did not live long enough ...

Take care,

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Hello Ward,

With very few exceptions most of what what we see and hear on AI>the

public stage is scripted and practiced.

But most of these people, when shoved a microphone under their nose, will

be

capable of coming-up with whole sentences and reply to questions, not just a few rehearsed one-liners.

Not Anne Frank, who never really had a chance.

I don't know Greta Thunberg or how she got to the stage. But I AI>think

she meant what she said and said it well.

She read from a paper what someone had written on that paper and rehearsed it with that person, her father, who is also trying to push a book about his daughter. Written by himself.

Are you saying, or suggesting, that her words and thoughts were
not her own, but somebody else's? And that somebody else was her
father, whose only interest was his own?

While it may be true her father helped her with her homework, how
does that mean what she said (or wrote) was not her own? After all,
it was *her* speech, not anybody else's. And she should be given
full credit, not partial or none at all. She was the one who stood
up there and told the tale. Not her father.

Being Swedish she will be the recipient of the Nobel Peace Prize.

She may be nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize. But that is no
guarantee that she will be the recipient of the Nobel Peace Prize.
There are others who may be nominated, including Donald Trump.
The only real guarantee I can give you is that I will not be the
next recipient of the Nobel Peace Prize.

As we know, the Norwegian Nobel Committee is famous for other silly recipients, most recent Barack Obama for achieving nothing.

Are you saying or suggesting that I would be more deserving?

She was obviously scared, but did quite well with a powerful and
important message.

I'm not questioning the message.

What you seem to be quesioning is if it was her message at all.
That is showing a lot of disrespect for a young woman who claims
to be speaking for an entire generation.

In the past (like 20 years ago) I have worked for the UN on international meetings about the environment and I remember very well standing next to Severn Cullis-Suzuki. Don't know her? How come I am not surprized...

Climate change is the crisis that can, and will, doom us all.
Especially if nothing (or very little) is done about it. Greta
Thunberg is one of many who has taken up the cause, speaking
truth to power.

In 1992, aged 12, she attended Earth Summit in Rio de Janeiro and was allowed to present a naive statement which in the meantime is called "The Girl Who Silenced the World for 5 Minutes".

That was then. This is now.

A strong statement, scripted, but she obviously knew what she was saying, not like Greta who has to memorize every statement before saying it. I know, she has Asperger's, but that is of no consequence.

Oh. So Helen Keller should have been ignored because she was
deaf/blind. What a great excuse. Anybody who does not meet your
own definition of being perfect is flawed and should be ignored,
regardless of what words of wisdom they may speak/write/sign.

Please look at this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJJGuIZVfLM

While we're at it, we should all take another look at Forrest Gump.
Wouldn't that be fun?

In the run-up to the 2002 Conference on Sustainable Development in Johannesburg (for which the Secretary-General of the UN asked me to volunteer my services) I had the pleasure of sitting 3 days next to a now older Severn Cullis-Suzuki, about 20-21, who now had no scripted paper and was kind of helpless when being asked a question.

One can say the same about Donald Trump when he is not around
a telepromter.

She became a TV-show host and an author ... then vanished from the stage.

The same will happen when reality TV-show host and author Donald
Trump exits the stage.

Or look at the statement by Samantha Smith who wrote Yuri Andropov in 1982 then aged 10 ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TgCEvWa16Y

She wrote a book about her Russian experience and became a supporting actress in "Lime Street" with Robert Wagner. She died in a plane crash

aged

15.

All the leading ladies in Robert Wagner's life seem to have died
at a very young age. Not that any of it was his own fault ...

And now this Greta.

She never starred in any movies with Robert Wagner.

Is it a coincidence that we always are confronted with young girls? Are their statements so much more meaningful? Aren't there any boys saying anything meaningful? Or is this indeed "scripted by the media" ...

creating

news.

Oh, come now. John Hinckley did a wonderful job impressing not only
a 15-year-old movie star, but impressing us all. Not that any of us
are proud of what he did. And to think, none of it was "scripted by
the media", as he did it all by himself.

Greta will get the Nobel Peace Prize and by the time she is 20 she will be forgotten because she is a one trick poney. Just like Severn Cullis-Suzuki ... Samantha Smith unfortunately did not live long enough ...

Greta will become PM of Sweden and annex the USA as part of her
kingdom, making Donald Trump one of her most loyal subjects.
After all, she *is* a Viking. And like all Vikings, she does
what Vikings do ...

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She's a very inspiring young lady. I hope world leaders everywhere will pay attention to what she is saying.

No, she is not ... she is scripted all the way ... reading from a paper
.. reading from a teleprompter.

There are "no" interviews with Greta Thunberg which are not scripted.

A certain amount of scripting or planning of topics covered could be useful when production only provides a limited time period.

Her first North American interview seems pretty off-the-cuff and genuine. Look
up Democracy Now, Sep 11.

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Her first North American interview seems pretty off-the-cuff and genuine. Look up Democracy Now, Sep 11.

So far I have not seen a true "question/answer" interview with her. A press conference where she reads a statement from a paper is something different.

Although nothing wrong with the message, the manner in which it was delivered a
few days ago was pure Hollywood drama and from the expression you could easily conclude "there is something badly connected in this girl's brain".

Remember, Americans who now revere her also elected Donald Trump ... the networks can make or break someone ... in the US, in Sweden, even in Finland. The next day there's a big plane crash and "whoosh" she's off the wires.

On April 15th 1986 we planned with Greenpeace a whopping campaign against polution and industrial discharges. When we switched-on the radio that morning the US had bombed Tripoli overnight ... no journalist showed up except maybe a guy from a student newsletter who hadn't listened to the radio yet.

The media can make you or break you ...

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Hello Ward,

Her first North American interview seems pretty off-the-cuff and
genuine. Look up Democracy Now, Sep 11.

So far I have not seen a true "question/answer" interview with her. A

press

conference where she reads a statement from a paper is something

different.

That's funny. Others have. Which might explain why she was awarded
the alternative Nobel Peace Prize.

Although nothing wrong with the message, the manner in which it was delivered a few days ago was pure Hollywood drama and from the expression you could easily conclude "there is something badly connected in this girl's brain".

How was that any different than a US president reading a speech
from a teleprompter? Especially one who was the star of his own
reality TV series?

Remember, Americans who now revere her also elected Donald Trump ...

First of all, most Americans have the attention span of a gnat.
I suspect that may also be true of others, but have no means of
proving it - so I'll let you and other Belgians off the hook.

Donald Trump is always right. Everybody knows that. Even though
most Democrats refuse to admit it. The difference between The Orange
One and The Beloved One is that the little girl is beloved by all,
both Democrats and Republicans alike - plus independents.

the networks can make or break someone ...

That is why she has a global audience, and can never be silenced.

in the US, in Sweden, even in Finland.

The US, Sweden, and Finland do not own the world, and comprise only
a small portion of the world's population.

The next day there's a big plane crash and "whoosh" she's off the wires.

Right now she is flying high. Even if she crashes, there are others
who will take up the cause and continue the flight.

On April 15th 1986 we planned with Greenpeace a whopping campaign against polution and industrial discharges. When we switched-on the radio that morning the US had bombed Tripoli overnight ...

That was during the days of Ronnie Raygun, not Barack Obama.

no journalist showed up except maybe a guy from a student newsletter who hadn't listened to the radio yet.

Those were the days before social media. Facebook and Twitter were
nowhere around. And most folks connected with each other by snail
mail and landline phones rather than any other means. News coverage
was also more limited, with most folks keeping up with what was going
on via television and newspapers rather than electronic means.

The media can make you or break you ...

Depends on what kind of media and who your audience (or intended
audience) is.

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Hello Alan,

"How dare you!" ~Greta Thunberg, a Swedish 16-year-old girl,
scolding leaders of the world at UN Climate Change Summit.

"My message is that we'll be watching you."

She's a very inspiring young lady. I hope world leaders everywhere will

pay

attention to what she is saying.

They are -

Greta Thunberg wins alternative Nobel Prize

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/climate-activist-greta-thunberg -wins-alternative-nobel-prize/ar-AAHOcB2

Reuters

Climate activist Greta Thunberg wins 'alternative Nobel Prize'

By Johan Ahlander
9/25/19

STOCKHOLM, Sept 25 (Reuters) - Swedish teenage climate activist Greta
Thunberg was named on Wednesday as one of four winners of the 2019
Right Livelihood Award, known as Sweden's alternative Nobel Prize.

Thunberg won the award "for inspiring and amplifying political demands
for urgent climate action reflecting scientific facts," the Right
Livelihood Foundation said in a statement.

Thunberg, 16, denounced world leaders on Monday for failing to tackle
climate change in a speech at the start of a climate summit at the
United Nations in New York.

She started solitary weekly protests outside Swedish parliament a year
ago. Inspired by her, millions of young people poured onto streets
around the world last Friday to demand governments attending the summit
take emergency action.

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On 26/09/2019 10:13, Lee Lofaso -> Alan Ianson wrote:

Thunberg, 16, denounced world leaders on Monday for failing to tackle climate change in a speech at the start of a climate summit at the
United Nations in New York.

She started solitary weekly protests outside Swedish parliament a year ago. Inspired by her, millions of young people poured onto streets
around the world last Friday to demand governments attending the summit take emergency action.

And fuck all will come of it. Virtually all of those young people do not have the right to vote yet.

When they do things may change.... but I won't be holding my breath.

Money is more important than the ecology, or the people... or anything.

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Hi Dave,

On Sep 26, 2019 11:45am, David Drummond wrote to Lee Lofaso:

When they do things may change.... but I won't be holding my breath.

Money is more important than the ecology, or the people... or anything.

Isn't strange, how a lot of young people get good jobs and start earning
decent money don't like to pay too much in taxes and all of a sudden also care where the money they paid in taxes is being spent.

People go into a service station and buy a litre bottle of water and pay $3
but complain when they have to pay $1.50 for a litre of petrol, especially
when water out of a tap is free.

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Terry,

People go into a service station and buy a litre bottle of water and pay
$3 but complain when they have to pay $1.50 for a litre of petrol, especially when water out of a tap is free.

Free?

Then how come I get a water-bill for tap-water ?

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especially when water out of a tap is free.

Free?

Then how come I get a water-bill for tap-water ?

For the sake of the discussion, I think that we all can agree that it's *basically* free.




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especially when water out of a tap is free.

Free?

Then how come I get a water-bill for tap-water ?

For the sake of the discussion, I think that we all can agree that
it's *basically* free.

No it is not. The water here is metered and the more I use, the more I pay.

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Hi Ward,

On Sep 26, 2019 09:21am, Ward Dossche wrote to Terry Roati:

Then how come I get a water-bill for tap-water ?

Very true unless you fill your water bottle at the gas station.

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On 26/09/2019 15:58, Terry Roati -> David Drummond wrote:

People go into a service station and buy a litre bottle of water and pay

$3

but complain when they have to pay $1.50 for a litre of petrol, especially when water out of a tap is free.

Hmm - Bundaberg Regional Council charged me A$1.90/kilolitre this morning when I got some water from the town spigot.

It's not dear but it isn't free either.

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On 26/09/2019 20:52, 2:203/2 wrote:

especially when water out of a tap is free.

Free?

Then how come I get a water-bill for tap-water ?

For the sake of the discussion, I think that we all can agree that it's *basically* free.

It most certainly is NOT free in Australia.

The water coming out of the tap is charged for on the quarterly taxes. The only
free water falls from the sky (or not going by the last 2 years here).

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Hi David,

On Sep 27, 2019 11:21am, David Drummond wrote to Terry Roati:

It's not dear but it isn't free either.

Generally speaking nothing is free, I was mentioning how a lot of folks complain about the price of petrol but happily buy water at a gas station at double the price of the gasoline when they could use a refillable container
and get it for free at the gas station when buying gasoline.

BTW, why would the Bundy council charge you, you mean it cost you that to
drive there, wasn't the water actually free :)

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On 27/09/2019 13:28, Terry Roati -> David Drummond wrote:

It's not dear but it isn't free either.

Generally speaking nothing is free, I was mentioning how a lot of folks complain about the price of petrol but happily buy water at a gas station

at

double the price of the gasoline when they could use a refillable

container

and get it for free at the gas station when buying gasoline.

Oh? Do petrol stations in your area have taps available for that purpose? I've not noticed any here. One should probably refill the bottle from the tap at home (where one pays for one's water via the quarterly council taxes).

BTW, why would the Bundy council charge you, you mean it cost you that to drive there, wasn't the water actually free :)

It most certainly wasn't free. I'm speaking of the bulk water outlet at the base of one of their water towers. We have to buy an electronic "token" from the council and keep it charged with credit to get water out of the outlet (plugging it in turns on the valve in there somewhere).

One has to provide one's own hose, 100mm fitting and at least a 1000 litre container.

I wasn't refilling a plastic bottle....

I'm not sure where you're located (in Z3?) but in this area potable water is becoming a scarce and valuable resource. I've had no real rain in nearly 18 months.

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Hi! David,

On 09/27/2019 11:21 AM, you wrote to Terry Roati:

when water out of a tap is free.

Hmm - Bundaberg Regional Council charged me A$1.90/kilolitre this
morning when I got some water from the town spigot.

The Fraser Coast Council charges $1.76/kL. I spent a total of $15.84 per the last billing period. (There's just little ol' me and my feathered friends.)

You are welcome to fill any containers here if you care to visit. Standard domestic hose only, unfortunately. OTOH it is conveniently situated close to the driveway, which is clear these days as I sold the 'white knuckle' Nissan. Free coffee!; bring doughnuts (plain preferred).

Cheers,
Paul.

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On 27/09/2019 15:28, David Drummond -> Terry Roati wrote:

I'm not sure where you're located (in Z3?) but in this area potable [..]

Cairns. Have you had plenty of rain over the water catchments in Cairns?

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Hi David,

On Sep 27, 2019 03:28pm, David Drummond wrote to Terry Roati:

Oh? Do petrol stations in your area have taps available for that

Yes, they have taps near the bowsers.

purpose? I've not noticed any here. One should probably refill the
bottle from the tap at home (where one pays for one's water via the quarterly council taxes).

We all do that, I was talking about buying water in a gas station and instead using the tap water.

It most certainly wasn't free. I'm speaking of the bulk water outlet at the base of one of their water towers. We have to buy an electronic "token" from the council and keep it charged with credit to get water
out of the outlet (plugging it in turns on the valve in there
somewhere).

Do all of Bundy have to do this or just a few in some areas?

One has to provide one's own hose, 100mm fitting and at least a 1000
litre container.

Are you connected to water supply?

I wasn't refilling a plastic bottle....

It was never about you :)

I'm not sure where you're located (in Z3?) but in this area potable
water is becoming a scarce and valuable resource. I've had no real rain
in nearly 18 months.

Cairns, with this heat all of Oz needs more rain.


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Hi David,

On Sep 27, 2019 04:47pm, David Drummond wrote to David Drummond:

Cairns. Have you had plenty of rain over the water catchments in Cairns?

It wasn't that long ago that levels got low and we had restrictions but then the dams were overflowing.

Even if we miss the the cyclones, the effects bring rain here.

The lawns here are gnerally brown at the moment but a month or so ago were
nice and green.

It hasn't been that hot temperature wise (less than 30C)but I have had to top my pool twice this month.

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Hello Ward,

Then how come I get a water-bill for tap-water ?

For the sake of the discussion, I think that we all can agree that
it's *basically* free.

No it is not. The water here is metered and the more I use, the more I pay.

We have a well in the back yard. You would think that the water is essentially free. But nah... there isn't a bill for the water we get but there is a bill for the water that wish to get rid of. The city regularly tries to talk us into
hooking up to the city water line that is buried in the front yard.

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On 27/09/2019 16:31, Terry Roati -> David Drummond wrote:

Oh? Do petrol stations in your area have taps available for that

Yes, they have taps near the bowsers.

Any such taps here are labelled "non-potable".

purpose? I've not noticed any here. One should probably refill the
bottle from the tap at home (where one pays for one's water via the
quarterly council taxes).

We all do that, I was talking about buying water in a gas station and

instead

using the tap water.

It most certainly wasn't free. I'm speaking of the bulk water outlet at
the base of one of their water towers. We have to buy an electronic
"token" from the council and keep it charged with credit to get water
out of the outlet (plugging it in turns on the valve in there
somewhere).

Do all of Bundy have to do this or just a few in some areas?

Only those not connected to the town water supply I guess. Most on rain tank water pay a contractor to deliver a truckload. I looked into the - the contractor charges $200.00 to deliver water which costs $25.00 from the spigot.

One has to provide one's own hose, 100mm fitting and at least a 1000
litre container.

Are you connected to water supply?

No - I am out in a rural area. I rely on rain water tanks (and as they are now empty I have to buy the water in town.

I wasn't refilling a plastic bottle....

It was never about you :)

I'm not sure where you're located (in Z3?) but in this area potable
water is becoming a scarce and valuable resource. I've had no real rain
in nearly 18 months.

Cairns,

Yeah - I looked in the nodelist and determined that after my message.

with this heat all of Oz needs more rain.

Not really that hot here - just no rain. :(

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On 27/09/2019 16:47, Paul Quinn -> David Drummond wrote:

Hmm - Bundaberg Regional Council charged me A$1.90/kilolitre this
morning when I got some water from the town spigot.

The Fraser Coast Council charges $1.76/kL. I spent a total of $15.84
per the last billing period. (There's just little ol' me and my
feathered friends.)

You are welcome to fill any containers here if you care to visit.
Standard domestic hose only, unfortunately. OTOH it is conveniently situated close to the driveway, which is clear these days as I sold the 'white knuckle' Nissan. Free coffee!; bring doughnuts (plain preferred).

I think the fuel cost to drag the tonne of water back here would exceed the 14c
difference :)

I'll try and find some plain doughnuts and come past :)

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Hi! David,

On 28 Sep 19 07:36, you wrote to me:

I'll try and find some plain doughnuts and come past :)

With a bit of lead time I could maybe organise my favourite point operator (#6,
Lloyd Russell) over for a sysop meet. I'm sure he's got some coffee. ;)

Cheers,
Paul.

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On 09-24-19, WARD DOSSCHE said to ALAN IANSON:

"My message is that we'll be watching you."

She's a very inspiring young lady. I hope world leaders everywhere will
pay attention to what she is saying.

No, she is not ... she is scripted all the way ... reading from a paper WD>... reading from a teleprompter.

There are "no" interviews with Greta Thunberg which are not scripted.

I gotta check on something I read when this kid was `heavily' covered by media at the start if her `voyage'.


Yeah here we are.....


This raises several questions......


First of all....lest anyone get the impression she's some sort of heroic `Joan d Arc' (some Catholic nun did make a comparison of her to the Virgin Mary recently....although her being Swedish would give me grave doubts about the `virgin' part)...


The `boat' she was making this `heroic' trip on was a 60 foot racing yacht, with two experienced ocean sailors piloting the craft, a `documentary maker' (of course!) and her father (along to see there's no `monkey-business', no doubt!).

(BTW....our little `heroine' isn't just some Swedish girl off the shelf, either...her father is the grandson of late Prince Ranier and Grace Kelly of Monaco...which sort of adds to the `pre-fame' angle)



Now...remember from your school days how you were taught how long it took to make a crossing from England or Europe to the US coast?


This little 60 foot craft made it in 15 days! Take THAT, Pilgrims!


Second....she's ....what ....15? years old. What the hell does she know
about the `climate' that nobody else knows? (BTW....I read recently she just may get a `Nobel Prize'! You read that right! A `Nobel'! She deserves a Nobel about as much as Hussein Obama deserved one. And he deserved his even less
than Jimmy Carter did!)


This climate scare crap has gotten out of hand. Now they're using children to push their fake climate narrative!








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On 09-25-19, WARD DOSSCHE said to AUGUST ABOLINS:

Her first North American interview seems pretty off-the-cuff and genuine. Look up Democracy Now, Sep 11.

So far I have not seen a true "question/answer" interview with her. A WD>press conference where she reads a statement from a paper is something WD>different.
Although nothing wrong with the message, the manner in which it was WD>delivered a few days ago was pure Hollywood drama and from the expression WD>you could easily conclude "there is something badly connected in this WD>girl's brain".

I'd never heard of what you stated she suffers from. But I thought something was `not quite right' about her in every photo I've seen of her. She is a sort of attractive ordinary girl in her mid-teens...but always seems to have a blank, empty expression on her face. Like `all the lights are on....but nobody's home'.


Too bad.





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Hi David,

On Sep 28, 2019 07:34am, David Drummond wrote to Terry Roati:

Any such taps here are labelled "non-potable".

Maybe a CYA.

Only those not connected to the town water supply I guess. Most on rain tank water pay a contractor to deliver a truckload. I looked into the - the contractor charges $200.00 to deliver water which costs $25.00 from the spigot.

Now I can see why it is important for you.

No - I am out in a rural area. I rely on rain water tanks (and as they
are now empty I have to buy the water in town.

When the tanks were last full how many years did they last?

Not really that hot here - just no rain. :(

I don't regard anything under 30C as real hot but the amount of evaporation on my pool surprised me.

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On 28/09/2019 11:49, Terry Roati -> David Drummond wrote:

No - I am out in a rural area. I rely on rain water tanks (and as they
are now empty I have to buy the water in town).

When the tanks were last full how many years did they last?

I've had the tanks for nearly 20 years - but only lived here full time since January 2017. While we've had some decent rains since then I don't think the tanks have ever run over since I moved here.

In total I have over 56,000 litres of tanks but 6800 of that is the header tank
up the hill (I pump from the big tanks here up to that one and then that gives me water pressure).

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Hello Ward!

24 Sep 19 13:42, Ward Dossche wrote to Alan Ianson:

Greta will get the Nobel Peace Prize and by the time she is 20 she
will be forgotten because she is a one trick poney. Just like Severn Cullis-Suzuki ... Samantha Smith unfortunately did not live long
enough ...

How come you didn't mention Malala Yousafzai?


Regards,
Gerrit

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Gerrit,

Greta will get the Nobel Peace Prize and by the time she is 20 she GK>WD> will be forgotten because she is a one trick poney. Just like Severn GK>WD> Cullis-Suzuki ... Samantha Smith unfortunately did not live long
enough ...

How come you didn't mention Malala Yousafzai?

Because she is already forgotten...

Isn't it amazing that all these child-like definers of the worldly problems are
young females? Boys must be too stupid ...

... or maybe too many movies with Disney princesses ... Disney princesses never
solve problems.

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Isn't it amazing that all these child-like definers of the
worldly problems
are young females? Boys must be too stupid ...

And this conversation illustrates that some boys are not wiser when they are older men?


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Hello Ward!

29 Sep 19 22:48, Ward Dossche wrote to Gerrit Kuehn:

How come you didn't mention Malala Yousafzai?

Because she is already forgotten...

So is it your memory getting weak with age?

Isn't it amazing that all these child-like definers of the worldly problems are young females? Boys must be too stupid ...

Maybe you're not paying attention and prefer stories about girls?

Honestly, I don't see what you're expecting. Someone who is the face of something (a movement or whatever) at the age of 12 or 16 to continue with that
for decades? I'd say that it is good and in their own interest that these children vanish from the radar of the public at some point and are allowed to live their life. Music and movies (and nowadays, maybe also YT?) already burn too many young talents.


Regards,
Gerrit

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Hello Ward,

Greta will get the Nobel Peace Prize and by the time she is 20 she
will be forgotten because she is a one trick poney. Just like Severn
Cullis-Suzuki ... Samantha Smith unfortunately did not live long
enough ...

How come you didn't mention Malala Yousafzai?

Because she is already forgotten...

Isn't it amazing that all these child-like definers of the worldly

problems

are young females? Boys must be too stupid ...

.. or maybe too many movies with Disney princesses ... Disney princesses never solve problems.

Canadian PM Justin Trudeau starred as a dark-skinned Arabian prince
when he was a college kid. Does that count?

Aladdin and his magic lamp. Must have found it in Canada.

--Lee

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Hello Oliver,

Isn't it amazing that all these child-like definers of the
worldly problems are young females? Boys must be too stupid ...

And this conversation illustrates that some boys are not wiser when they are
older men?

Aladdin found his magic lamp. In Canada.

Some boys, such as Justin Trudeau, never grow up ...

--Lee

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Hello David,

Thunberg, 16, denounced world leaders on Monday for failing to tackle
climate change in a speech at the start of a climate summit at the
United Nations in New York.

She started solitary weekly protests outside Swedish parliament a year
ago. Inspired by her, millions of young people poured onto streets
around the world last Friday to demand governments attending the summit
take emergency action.

And fuck all will come of it. Virtually all of those young people do not have the right to vote yet.

Americans (those in the USA) have the right to vote at age 18.
Although I do agree with you the right to vote should be lowered
to something far less. Such as the day one is born. But that
is another issue for another day. Especially since those who are
yet unborn would still not have a right to vote ...

When they do things may change.... but I won't be holding my breath.

Once upon a time Americans made it happen. They actually voted
for hope and change. Only to find out it was all an illusion ...

Money is more important than the ecology, or the people... or anything.

She is touring Mount Rushmore now. And visiting Native Americans.
And really having a day. At somebody else's expense.

Don't you wish you had a daddy who owned a sailboat and other fancy
toys? Just think of all the wonders you would get to see ...

--Lee

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