On 09-23-19, PAUL QUINN said to WARD DOSSCHE:

Hi! Ward,

On 23 Sep 19 03:01, FidoNews Robot wrote to All:

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It's not rocket science to determine that a gunman operating an
old bolt-action rifle like a Mannlicher-Carcano was, to bang 2 more
bullets in the chamber, aquire the target again and score 3 out of
3 hits in 6-7 seconds. Not only that, the angle is difficult, the visibility dubious and when you watch Zapruder's film with the 3rd
shot it is obvious Kennedy was mortally wounded from the front, not
from the back. The Zapruder film is clear ...

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Very few people know of a semi-automatic Carcano which used the same PQ>ammunition (refer: Scotti Model X - Italian prototype). That I think was PQ>the second shooter's preference. (A semi-auto has an advantage that you PQ>may appreciate.) There were very few in circulation but several possibly PQ>in government armouries 'for evaluation'. Nudge, nudge...

At the time of Kennedy's murder I owned a 6.5 Mannlicher-Carcano. It was the same exact thing Oswald used to kill Kennedy. It held six rounds. It was a
bolt action and you could not rip off the shots as fast as the shots were
fired in Dallas. The bolt would not work that fast. I bought it in a gun store for less than $7.00 including tax, off a table piled with WWII surplus
weapons. I listened to the replay of the shooting at the time it happened in 1963...and didn't believe it was a 6.5 Mann-Carc at the time. By then I'd
fired mine many times and used to get pissed at how hard and slow the bolt worked between shots. The more you fired it the harder the bolt became to
work. (No wonder the Italians lost the war!)


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TIM RICHARDSON wrote to PAUL QUINN <=-

Very few people know of a semi-automatic Carcano which used the same
ammunition (refer: Scotti Model X - Italian prototype). That I think was
the second shooter's preference. (A semi-auto has an advantage that you
may appreciate.) There were very few in circulation but several possibly
in government armouries 'for evaluation'. Nudge, nudge...

At the time of Kennedy's murder I owned a 6.5 Mannlicher-Carcano.
It was the same exact thing Oswald used to kill Kennedy. It held
six rounds. It was a bolt action and you could not rip off the
shots as fast as the shots were fired in Dallas. The bolt would
not work that fast. I bought it in a gun store for less than
$7.00 including tax, off a table piled with WWII surplus weapons.
I listened to the replay of the shooting at the time it happened
in 1963...and didn't believe it was a 6.5 Mann-Carc at the time.
By then I'd fired mine many times and used to get pissed at how
hard and slow the bolt worked between shots. The more you fired
it the harder the bolt became to work. (No wonder the Italians
lost the war!)

Not quite sure what you mean here with "the bolt would not work
that fast". On any bolt-action rifle I've ever seen/used, the
bolt works exactly as fast as the operator makes it work. Right?

Maybe it could have used a cleaning?


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Hello Tim,

Who really pulled the trigger? Did Lee Harvey Oswald really do
what was claimed? Was there really a 'magic' bullet?

Jim Garrison, DA of New Orleans, wrote a book about the subject.
Had no doubt there was a second gunman, his original claim being
a CIA hitman who popped up at a manhole using a .45 cal handgun.
He later admitted he could have come up with a better theory.

But he was defininely on to something with the Clay Shaw trial.
Something the government did not want anybody else to find out.

Oh, how I wish Roger Nelson was still here. He could tell us
lots about what most folks do not know, and will never know.

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It's not rocket science to determine that a gunman operating an
old bolt-action rifle like a Mannlicher-Carcano was, to bang 2 more
bullets in the chamber, aquire the target again and score 3 out of
3 hits in 6-7 seconds. Not only that, the angle is difficult, the
visibility dubious and when you watch Zapruder's film with the 3rd
shot it is obvious Kennedy was mortally wounded from the front, not
from the back. The Zapruder film is clear ...

[ ...a lot more trimmed... ]

Very few people know of a semi-automatic Carcano which used the same
ammunition (refer: Scotti Model X - Italian prototype). That I think

was

the second shooter's preference. (A semi-auto has an advantage that you
may appreciate.) There were very few in circulation but several possibly
in government armouries 'for evaluation'. Nudge, nudge...

At the time of Kennedy's murder I owned a 6.5 Mannlicher-Carcano. It was the
same exact thing Oswald used to kill Kennedy. It held six rounds. It was a bolt action and you could not rip off the shots as fast as the shots were fired in Dallas. The bolt would not work that fast. I bought it in a gun store
for less than $7.00 including tax, off a table piled with WWII surplus weapons. I listened to the replay of the shooting at the time it happened in
1963...and didn't believe it was a 6.5 Mann-Carc at the time. By then I'd fired mine many times and used to get pissed at how hard and slow the bolt worked between shots. The more you fired it the harder the bolt became to work. (No wonder the Italians lost the war!)

The late Roger Nelson was more aware about the events in Dallas
than most folks here in Fidonet. He was an avid JFK enthusiast,
and one of the persons who lived in Houma (where Roger lived)
was James Alcock, the assistant DA for Jim Garrison, who put Clay
Shaw on trial. Since the assistant DA and Roger were neighbors,
I have no doubt that Roger knew there was more to it than what
the government has been telling us.

During the Clay Shaw trial, Jim Garrison made the opening statement,
then turned everything over to his assistant. Then after questioning,
Jim Garrison made the closing statement. Rather than really go after
Clay Shaw, the assistant DA threw marshmallow questions and basically
acted like a wimp. Pretty much guaranteeing the government would
get its own way with an acquittal of Clay Shaw.

After the trial, the assistant DA moved to Houma, and never said
a word about what really happened on that fateful day in Dallas.

--Lee

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