Hello All,

WinPoint now supports IPv6. It does not have fall back to IPv4 yet and it only calls out via IPv6 if there is an AAAA record but no A record in the host name. WInpoint points can now have an IPv6 only Boss.

My WinPoint point 2:280/5555.10 now polls me via IPv6. ( At host name fido6.vlist.eu )


Cheers, Michiel

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//Hallo Michiel, //

am *17.03.22* um *11:52:49* schriebst Du in der Area *IPV6*
an *All* eine Mail zum Thema *"WinPoint & IPv6"*.

MvdV> Hello All,

MvdV> WinPoint now supports IPv6. It does not have fall back to IPv4 yet and
MvdV> it only calls out via IPv6 if there is an AAAA record but no A record
MvdV> in the host name. WInpoint points can now have an IPv6 only Boss.

As already pointed out, the current release should follow the OS preference.

MvdV> My WinPoint point 2:280/5555.10 now polls me via IPv6. ( At host name
MvdV> fido6.vlist.eu )


MvdV> Cheers, Michiel

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Bis denne ...
Tim Schattkowsky
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Hello Tim,

On Thursday March 17 2022 21:50, you wrote to me:

As already pointed out, the current release should follow the OS preference.

I missed that in the heat of the argument. Good, so Rinaldo can test it for us.


Cheers, Michiel

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//Hallo Michiel, //

am *17.03.22* um *21:16:13* schriebst Du in der Area *IPV6*
an *Tim Schattkowsky* eine Mail zum Thema *"WinPoint & IPv6"*.

MvdV> Hello Tim,

MvdV> On Thursday March 17 2022 21:50, you wrote to me:

As already pointed out, the current release should follow the OS
preference.

MvdV> I missed that in the heat of the argument. Good, so Rinaldo can test it
MvdV> for us.

Let us know if it works for you.

Bis denne ...
Tim Schattkowsky
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Hello Tim,

On Friday March 18 2022 00:37, you wrote to me:

Let us know if it works for you.

Here is the report:

1) I created a host name for my system with only an AAAA record. Rinaldo configured that host name in his WinPoint config. Rinaldo polled with the IPv6 address.

2) I added an A record to that host name. Rinaldo polled with IPv6.

3) I removed the AAAA record for the host name. Rinaldo polled with IPv4.

4) I added the AAAA record back in. Rinaldo polled with IPv6.

5) I removed the A record. Rinalodo polls with IPv6.

Conclusion: Winpoint follows the OS if the OS is configured to do IPv6 first if the host is reachable by IPv6 and IPv4. If only one of the two is available WinPoint uses that. All as expected.

What was not tested was the case that the OS is configured to try IPv4 first.


Cheers, Michiel

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Hi Michiel,

20 Mrz 22 17:30, you wrote to Tim Schattkowsky:

Let us know if it works for you.

Here is the report:

perfect for me:

Version Winpoint 400.2:
- 20 Mar 20:24:04 [385] incoming from 84.142.xxx.xxx (22692)

Version Winpoint 407:
- 20 Mar 20:27:54 [385] incoming from 2003:cd:2f2e:12fd:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx (61721)

servus
Ludwig

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//Hello Michiel,//

on *20.03.22* at *16:30:02* You wrote in Area *IPV6*
to *Tim Schattkowsky* about *"WinPoint & IPv6"*.

MvdV> Hello Tim,

MvdV> On Friday March 18 2022 00:37, you wrote to me:

Let us know if it works for you.

MvdV> Here is the report:

MvdV> 1) I created a host name for my system with only an AAAA record.
MvdV> Rinaldo configured that host name in his WinPoint config. Rinaldo
MvdV> polled with the IPv6 address.

MvdV> 2) I added an A record to that host name. Rinaldo polled with IPv6.

MvdV> 3) I removed the AAAA record for the host name. Rinaldo polled with
MvdV> IPv4.

MvdV> 4) I added the AAAA record back in. Rinaldo polled with IPv6.

MvdV> 5) I removed the A record. Rinalodo polls with IPv6.

MvdV> Conclusion: Winpoint follows the OS if the OS is configured to do IPv6
MvdV> first if the host is reachable by IPv6 and IPv4. If only one of the two
MvdV> is available WinPoint uses that. All as expected.

MvdV> What was not tested was the case that the OS is configured to try IPv4
MvdV> first.

Great! Thanks for your efforts and for sharing your experience!

Regards,
Tim

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On 03-20-22 17:30, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Tim Schattkowsky <=-

Conclusion: Winpoint follows the OS if the OS is configured to do IPv6 first if the host is reachable by IPv6 and IPv4. If only one of the two is available WinPoint uses that. All as expected.

Cool, which means it would use IPv6 by default here, since all my systems are configured to try IPv6 first, before falling back to IPv4. Nice to see more IPv6 support in BBS related software.


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Hello Tony,

On Wednesday March 23 2022 14:51, you wrote to me:

Conclusion: Winpoint follows the OS if the OS is configured to
do IPv6 first if the host is reachable by IPv6 and IPv4. If only
one of the two is available WinPoint uses that. All as expected.

Cool, which means it would use IPv6 by default here, since all my
systems are configured to try IPv6 first, before falling back to IPv4. Nice to see more IPv6 support in BBS related software.

Sure. Trying IPv6 first is what is more or less the default in almost all cases. Winpoint does not yet support fall back to IPv4 but that will be a matter of time.


Cheers, Michiel

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On 03-23-22 12:21, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

Sure. Trying IPv6 first is what is more or less the default in almost
all cases. Winpoint does not yet support fall back to IPv4 but that
will be a matter of time.

I think there are some corner cases where this is the exception, but mostly, it's IPv6 first by default.

I have an Android app that doesn't like IPv6 enabled in the app on an IPv4 only connection. It doesn't seem to fall back.


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Hello Tony,

On Friday March 25 2022 20:13, you wrote to me:

I think there are some corner cases where this is the exception, but mostly, it's IPv6 first by default.

I have an Android app that doesn't like IPv6 enabled in the app on an
IPv4 only connection. It doesn't seem to fall back.

If a device is on an IPv4 only connection, it should not even try to connect by IPv6 but just use IPv4. In my dictionary "Fall back" is when an IPv6 connection seems possible and is tried but fails and IPv4 is next.

Anyway, I say that particular app is broken.


Cheers, Michiel

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On 03-27-22 14:41, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

I have an Android app that doesn't like IPv6 enabled in the app on an
IPv4 only connection. It doesn't seem to fall back.

If a device is on an IPv4 only connection, it should not even try to connect by IPv6 but just use IPv4. In my dictionary "Fall back" is when an IPv6 connection seems possible and is tried but fails and IPv4 is next.

Yeah, it's weird. when the phone is on wifi, there's IPv6 available, but when the wifi drops out, there's only an IPv4 connection.

Anyway, I say that particular app is broken.

I might try a bug report. :)


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Hello Tony,

On Friday April 01 2022 19:58, you wrote to me:

Yeah, it's weird. when the phone is on wifi, there's IPv6 available,
but when the wifi drops out, there's only an IPv4 connection.

That makes sense if it falls back to a 2G, 3G or 4G connection that does not support IPv6. But the app should handle that gracefully.

Anyway, I say that particular app is broken.

I might try a bug report. :)

I say you should...


Cheers, Michiel

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Hello, Michiel van der Vlist.
On 02/04/2022 23.40 you wrote:

Hello Tony,
On Friday April 01 2022 19:58, you wrote to me:

Yeah, it's weird. when the phone is on wifi, there's IPv6 available,
but when the wifi drops out, there's only an IPv4 connection.

That makes sense if it falls back to a 2G, 3G or 4G connection that does not support IPv6. But the app should handle that gracefully.

I think android has a problem there also.. My phone is permanently connected to mobile data with ipv6. Also when wifi is on. If I connect to a ipv4-only wifi, the phone does not use the ipv6 mobile connection which still is on.

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Hello Tommi,

On Sunday April 03 2022 11:40, you wrote to me:

That makes sense if it falls back to a 2G, 3G or 4G connection
that does not support IPv6. But the app should handle that
gracefully.

I think android has a problem there also..

Tony also mentioned Android

My phone is permanently connected to mobile data with ipv6. Also when
wifi is on. If I connect to a ipv4-only wifi, the phone does not use
the ipv6 mobile connection which still is on.

Interesting. Your setup is a bit unusual I'd say. Normally the phone would alway use Wifi when availaible, IPv6 or not. But apparently you have configured it to always use the IPv6 mobile connection, even when Wifi is available.

In that case Android preferring the IPv4 only Wifi connection seems an odd choice....


Cheers, Michiel

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Hello Michiel!

02 Apr 2022 22:40, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Tony Langdon:

Yeah, it's weird. when the phone is on wifi, there's IPv6 available,
but when the wifi drops out, there's only an IPv4 connection.

MvdV> That makes sense if it falls back to a 2G, 3G or 4G connection that
MvdV> does not support IPv6. But the app should handle that gracefully.

depense on what is prefered in glibc :)

last glibc is prefer ipv6 first, can be changed in /etc/gai.conf

Anyway, I say that particular app is broken.

I might try a bug report. :)

MvdV> I say you should...

why ? :)


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On 04-02-22 22:40, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

Yeah, it's weird. when the phone is on wifi, there's IPv6 available,
but when the wifi drops out, there's only an IPv4 connection.

That makes sense if it falls back to a 2G, 3G or 4G connection that
does not support IPv6. But the app should handle that gracefully.

Agree, it should have fallen back to using IPv4.

Anyway, I say that particular app is broken.

No argument from me.

I might try a bug report. :)

I say you should...

I did, still not fixed. :(


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Hello Tony,

On Tuesday July 26 2022 19:44, you wrote to me:

I might try a bug report. :)

I say you should...

I did, still not fixed. :(

Bummer...


Cheers, Michiel

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On 07-27-22 16:35, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

Hello Tony,

On Tuesday July 26 2022 19:44, you wrote to me:

I might try a bug report. :)

I say you should...

I did, still not fixed. :(

Bummer...

Yeah, annoying. :(


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