All,

As my new router, new since x-number of months, is IPv6 capable and my provider

seems to offer it, the intention is to have a go at it.

I asked around how to do this but I'm getting conflicting answers or answers to

questions not asked.

The binkd-version I'm running identifies itself as ...

07 Dec 14:37:39 [5004] BEGIN standalone, binkd/1.1a-94/Win32 BINKD.CFG -cs

So I think that's a goodone. The name of the executable is

binkd-static-perl-zlib-bzlib2

Am I still good?

OK, my dns-provider is dyndns.org, they can manage IPv6. It's switched-off at the moment.

One individual tells me I need to work with the configuration file of binkd, another source tells me it is already there.

Now the configuration file I have is not a generic one, but one that I got from

RC29 at the time (around 2000?) Johan Zwiekhorst, something which he wrote himself, very consise and in dutch.

So far with IPv4 everything went fine, but what is the next step now?

I know, it probably has already been dealt with in this conference but it always has been passthru, I just connected it now for myself.

Please no URL's unless meaningful.

Thank you,

\%/@rd

--- D'Bridge 3.99 SR33
* Origin: When there's an elephant in the room, introduce him (2:292/854)

Hello Ward,

On Friday December 07 2018 14:58, you wrote to Y'all:

The binkd-version I'm running identifies itself as ...

07 Dec 14:37:39 [5004] BEGIN standalone, binkd/1.1a-94/Win32
BINKD.CFG -cs

So far so good. ( it is not the latest version, but it is good enough.)

If you type

binkd -vv

at the command line, what do you see?

So I think that's a goodone. The name of the executable is

binkd-static-perl-zlib-bzlib2

Am I still good?

looks like it.

Are you on a window XP machine? XP supports IPv6 but it is disabled by default.

In a command window with supervisor priviliges type:

ipv6 install

type "ipconfig /all" and report

Surf to http://ipv6-test.com/

and report your findings.

OK, my dns-provider is dyndns.org, they can manage IPv6. It's
switched-off at the moment.

That is for incoming. First things first.

One individual tells me I need to work with the configuration file of binkd, another source tells me it is already there.

binkp needs no special configuration for IPv6.


Cheers, Michiel

--- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20170303
* Origin: he.net certified sage (2:280/5555)

Hello Ward,

Friday December 07 2018 15:01, I wrote to you:

Are you on a window XP machine? XP supports IPv6 but it is disabled by default.

I forgot: For XP you need SP2. Win 7 and up has IPv6 by default.


Cheers, Michiel

--- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20170303
* Origin: he.net certified sage (2:280/5555)

Hello Ward!

I asked around how to do this but I'm getting conflicting answers or answers to questions not asked.

The binkd-version I'm running identifies itself as ...

07 Dec 14:37:39 [5004] BEGIN standalone, binkd/1.1a-94/Win32 BINKD.CFG -cs

So I think that's a goodone. The name of the executable is

binkd-static-perl-zlib-bzlib2

Am I still good?

As you are aware I have a point system running Dbridge for some time now.

BINKDWIN.EXE -vv tells me:

Binkd 1.1a-95 (Dec 10 2016 21:44:31/Win32)
Compilation flags: mingw32, zlib, perldl, https, ntlm, amiga_4d_outbound, bwlim, ipv6.
Facilities: fts5004 ipv6

So it is slightly newer than yours, but the important part is that
Facillities mentions ipv6

Including ipv6 support is a compile time option, so it may be there or not.
The patch has been available since November 2011.

The BINKDWIN.EXE I use with the DBRIDGE was distributes with DBRIDGE.

In the configurations of DBridge I use Binkd in "Linux mode" whatever that
may mean, but my impression is that it rund standalone and communicates
with Dbridge using flag files.

I use the config that dbridge generates and I hope that Nich does not object
to me publishing it here.

# D'Bridge 3.99 BINKD configuration file output (DBRIDGE.BNK)
# Exported on 23:21:34 20181205
#
# Copyright (c) by Nick J. Andre, Ltd.
#
# If this file needs to be submitted for review or discussion due to
# to a problem, bug report or other issue, please remember to BLANK OUT
# any passwords from the "node" configuration lines. DO NOT post the
# contents of this file publically until you blank out the passwords.
#
# ------------------- [ START OF YOUR CONFIGURATION ] -------------------
#
# Domains:
#
domain fidonet data\\fidonet 2
#
# Addresses:
#
address 2:280/5003.10@fidonet
#
# General variables:
#
sysname "Somewhere, somehow."
location "Heerhugowaard, NL"
sysop "Kees van Eeten"
nodeinfo 9600,TCP,BINKP
oblksize 4096
timeout 60
connect-timeout 0
call-delay 60
rescan-delay 15
maxservers 4
:
maxclients 1
log binkd.log
loglevel 4
conlog 4
inbound F:\\DB\\INBOUND\\
inbound-nonsecure F:\\DB\\INBOUND\\
minfree 2048
minfree-nonsecure 2048
kill-dup-partial-files
kill-old-partial-files 86400
kill-old-bsy 43200
try 3
hold 60
flag dbridge.ufm *.*
#
# Systems:
#
node 2:280/5003@fidonet fido.ddutch.nl SECRET -
root-domain fidonet
prescan
#
# BinkD additional options:
#
domain fidonet.org alias-for fidonet
#
# -------------------- [ END OF YOUR CONFIGURATION ] --------------------

This is about what is really needed next to the defaults.

The above runs on a laptop with Windows XP installed.

After I consulted Michiel what was needed to make IPv6 work in n WIn-XP,
this setup has had all it connections with 2:280/5003 using IPv6.

So again as all are telling you if binkd -vv tells you that ipv6 is a
included facillity, then Ipv6 is supported.

The remainder of your problems is then either your OS, but I beleive the version you use supports IPv6 out of the box, or your firewall.

If your point system on Android has problems conneting when IPv6 is active, please ask the developer if IPv6 is supported.

I did not send this message from the Dbridge point system, as cut and past seems not to work in a dosbox on WIN-xp, but that is plobably my own
ignorance.

Kees

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5
* Origin: As for me, all I know is that, I know nothing. (2:280/5003.4)

As my new router, new since x-number of months, is IPv6 capable and my provider seems to offer it, the intention is to have a go at it.

Just to showoff that I really have Dbridge running on Ipv6
Kees

--- D'Bridge 3.99
* Origin: Somewhere, somehow. (2:280/5003.10)

As my new router, new since x-number of months, is IPv6 capable and Kv>WD> my provider seems to offer it, the intention is to have a go at it.

Just to showoff that I really have Dbridge running on Ipv6

You are my hero now ... :-)

\%/@rd

--- D'Bridge 3.99 SR33
* Origin: When there's an elephant in the room, introduce him (2:292/854)

Michiel,

Are you on a window XP machine? XP supports IPv6 but it is disabled Mv>MV> by default.

I forgot: For XP you need SP2. Win 7 and up has IPv6 by default.

I'm running Win7.

A year or 2 ago I bought new motherboards having become tired of the recurring problems with the previous ones, the new ones don't even handle XP anymore ... a conflict (or shortage) of resources ...

\%/@rd

--- D'Bridge 3.99 SR33
* Origin: When there's an elephant in the room, introduce him (2:292/854)

Hello Ward,

On Friday December 07 2018 18:42, you wrote to me:

Are you on a window XP machine? XP supports IPv6 but it is

disabled by default.

I forgot: For XP you need SP2. Win 7 and up has IPv6 by default.

I'm running Win7.

OK.

But if you want help, you have to give us information. So I ask again.

If you type "binkd -vv" at the command line, what do you see?

If you type "ipconfig /all" at the command line, what do you see?

if you surf to http://ipv6-test.com/ what do you see?



Cheers, Michiel


--- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20170303
* Origin: he.net certified sage (2:280/5555)

Michiel,

But if you want help, you have to give us information.

Real life getting in the way ...

So I ask again.

If you type "binkd -vv" at the command line, what do you see?

***************************************************************************** Binkd 1.1a-94 (Apr 4 2016 18:49:54/Win32)
Compilation flags: msvc, static, zlib, bzlib2, perl, https, ntlm, amiga_4d_outbound, bwlim, ipv6.
Facilities: rfc2553emu *****************************************************************************

If you type "ipconfig /all" at the command line, what do you see?

***************************************************************************** Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : SERVER
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : lan

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : lan
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) Ethernet Connection (2) I219-V
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 4C-CC-6A-6C-F1-7A
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IPv6 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 2a02:a03f:4a2f:c300:4df3:890a:8ec1:7cc (Preferred)
IPv6 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : fd7e:49ab:5d5c:0:4df3:890a:8ec1:7cc0(P eferred)
Temporary IPv6 Address. . . . . . : 2a02:a03f:4a2f:c300:55aa:95e6:46e2:3b6 (Preferred)
Temporary IPv6 Address. . . . . . : fd7e:49ab:5d5c:0:55aa:95e6:46e2:3b60(P eferred)
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::4df3:890a:8ec1:7cc0%11(Preferred
IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.20(Preferred)
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : woensdag 5 december 2018 22:32:51
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : vrijdag 7 december 2018 21:34:31
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : fe80::3291:8fff:fe57:a769%11
192.168.1.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCPv6 IAID . . . . . . . . . . . : 239914090
DHCPv6 Client DUID. . . . . . . . : 00-01-00-01-1F-E3-61-E4-4C-CC-6A-6C-F1 7A
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : fd7e:49ab:5d5c::1
216.146.35.35
216.146.36.36
192.168.1.1
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled
Connection-specific DNS Suffix Search List :
lan

Tunnel adapter isatap.lan:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : lan
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft ISATAP Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes *****************************************************************************

if you surf to http://ipv6-test.com/ what do you see?

***************************************************************************** IPv4 speed IPv6 speed
91.176.11.57 2a02:a03f:4a2f:c300:55aa:95e6:46e2:3b60
ISP Proximus Belgacom
Roubaix 31.9Mbit/s 65.2Mbit/s
Zeeland 76.0 73.2
Paris 78.0 84.7
Portsmouth 51.2 60.1
Canada 20.9 20.9 *****************************************************************************

\%/@rd

--- D'Bridge 3.99 SR33
* Origin: When there's an elephant in the room, introduce him (2:292/854)

Hello Ward,

On Friday December 07 2018 20:58, you wrote to me:

If you type "binkd -vv" at the command line, what do you see?

********************************************************************** ******* Binkd 1.1a-94 (Apr 4 2016 18:49:54/Win32) Compilation flags: msvc, static, zlib, bzlib2, perl, https, ntlm, amiga_4d_outbound,
bwlim, ipv6.

^^^^

OK, your binkd version supports IPv6.

If you type "ipconfig /all" at the command line, what do you see?

********************************************************************** ******* Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : SERVER
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : lan

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : lan
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) Ethernet Connection
(2) I219-V
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 4C-CC-6A-6C-F1-7A
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IPv6 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 2a02:a03f:4a2f:c300:4df3:890a:8ec1:7cc (Preferred)

A global IPv6 address. The first 64 bits is called the prefix. Assigned by the ISP.
The lower 64 bits is called the host part.

Use this address for incoming calls.

IPv6 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : fd7e:49ab:5d5c:0:4df3:890a:8ec1:7cc0(P eferred)

A so called Unique Local Address. Note tha the host part is the same as in the global address. (Except for the last '0' which is probably a cut and paste error.

Temporary IPv6 Address. . . . . . : 2a02:a03f:4a2f:c300:55aa:95e6:46e2:3b6 (Preferred)

Temporray address used for outging calls. Host part changes every 24 hours or so.

Temporary IPv6 Address. . . . . . :

fd7e:49ab:5d5c:0:55aa:95e6:46e2:3b60(P eferred)

Same for ULA.

Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::4df3:890a:8ec1:7cc0%11(Preferred

Link local address. Only valid on the local link. Again note the host part is the same as in the ULA and the Global address.

So you have IPv6 on your router and on your Win 7 machine.

What happens iof you try to ping fido.vlist.eu? If you se an IPv4 address try "ping -6 fido.vlist.eu"

Your IPv6 address is not pingable yet.

D:\FIDO\FMAIL>ping 2a02:a03f:4a2f:c300:4df3:890a:8ec1:7cc0

Ping wird ausgef�hrt f�r 2a02:a03f:4a2f:c300:4df3:890a:8ec1:7cc0 mit 32 Bytes Daten:

Zeit�berschreitung der Anforderung.
Zeit�berschreitung der Anforderung.
Zeit�berschreitung der Anforderung.
Zeit�berschreitung der Anforderung.

Ping-Statistik f�r 2a02:a03f:4a2f:c300:4df3:890a:8ec1:7cc0:
Pakete: Gesendet = 4, Empfangen = 0, Verloren = 4 (100% Verlust),

Go to the setup of your router and look for a setting to enable ICMP or PING for IPv6.

if you surf to http://ipv6-test.com/ what do you see?

********************************************************************** ******* IPv4 speed IPv6 speed 91.176.11.57 2a02:a03f:4a2f:c300:55aa:95e6:46e2:3b60 ISP Proximus
Belgacom Roubaix 31.9Mbit/s 65.2Mbit/s Zeeland
76.0 73.2 Paris 78.0
84.7 Portsmouth 51.2 60.1 Canada 20.9
20.9 ********************************************************************** *******

Hmmm... click om the "general" button on the top..


- 07 Dec 21:41:08 [516] incoming from 91.176.11.57 (51572)
+ 07 Dec 21:41:08 [2092] incoming session with
57.11-176-91.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [91.176.11.57]
- 07 Dec 21:41:08 [2092] SYS Many Glacier
- 07 Dec 21:41:08 [2092] ZYZ Ward Dossche
- 07 Dec 21:41:08 [2092] LOC Mortsel, Belgium

No incoming IPv6 yet.

So something is still missing.


Cheers, Michiel

--- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20170303
* Origin: he.net certified sage (2:280/5555)

Hello Ward,

Friday December 07 2018 21:40, I wrote to you:

Your IPv6 address is not pingable yet.

That is the IPv6 address of your XP machine is not.

Just a guess:

D:\FIDO\logs>ping 2a02:a03f:4a2f:c300::1

Ping wird ausgef�hrt f�r 2a02:a03f:4a2f:c300::1 mit 32 Bytes Daten:

Antwort von 2a02:a03f:4a2f:c300::1: Zeit=21ms
Antwort von 2a02:a03f:4a2f:c300::1: Zeit=20ms
Antwort von 2a02:a03f:4a2f:c300::1: Zeit=21ms
Antwort von 2a02:a03f:4a2f:c300::1: Zeit=21ms

Ping-Statistik f�r 2a02:a03f:4a2f:c300::1:
Pakete: Gesendet = 4, Empfangen = 4, Verloren = 0 (0% Verlust),
Ca. Zeitangaben in Millisek.:
Minimum = 20ms, Maximum = 21ms, Mittelwert = 20ms

D:\FIDO\logs>

The above is one of your IPv6 addresses. The LAN side address of your router I guess. And that pings. Good...


Cheers, Michiel

--- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20170303
* Origin: he.net certified sage (2:280/5555)

Michiel,

What happens iof you try to ping fido.vlist.eu?

***************************************************************************** Pinging fido.vlist.eu [2001:1c02:1100:bd00:f1d0:2:280:5555] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 2001:1c02:1100:bd00:f1d0:2:280:5555: time=25ms
Reply from 2001:1c02:1100:bd00:f1d0:2:280:5555: time=25ms
Reply from 2001:1c02:1100:bd00:f1d0:2:280:5555: time=26ms
Reply from 2001:1c02:1100:bd00:f1d0:2:280:5555: time=22ms

Ping statistics for 2001:1c02:1100:bd00:f1d0:2:280:5555:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 22ms, Maximum = 26ms, Average = 24ms *****************************************************************************

Go to the setup of your router and look for a setting to enable ICMP or PING for IPv6.

I think there may be a problem there. The router is ISP-provided and pretty good. However there are 3 lvels to log into "User", "Admin" and "Expert" and they only give-out the password for "User".

That level is too low to do what you ask.

Let me get to their local shop on Monday and see if they understand what I'm talking about ...

Hmmm... click om the "general" button on the top..

IPv6 connectivity

Ipv6 Supported
Address 2a02:a03f:4a2f:c300:55aa:95e6:46e2:3b60
Type Native IPv6
SLAAC No
ICMP Filtered
Hostname None
ISP Belgacom

Browser
Default IPv6
Fallback to IPv4 in <1 second

DNS
DNS4+IP6 Reachable
DNS6+IP4 Reachable
DNS6+IP6 Reachable

No incoming IPv6 yet.

So something is still missing.

The search will continue tomorrow ...

\%/@rd

--- D'Bridge 3.99 SR33
* Origin: When there's an elephant in the room, introduce him (2:292/854)

On 8.12.2018 2:05, Ward Dossche wrote:

I think there may be a problem there. The router is ISP-provided and pretty good. However there are 3 lvels to log into "User", "Admin" and "Expert" and they only give-out the password for "User".

ISP-provided routers are usually not-pretty-good, because "they" are in control, not you.

I've got one Huawei LTE router with ISP branded firmware which doesn't
allow incoming IPv6 not matter what. Even with "admin" rights...

'Tommi

--- Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.
* Origin: *** smapinntpd/linux @ nntp://news.fidonet.fi *** (2:221/360)

Hello Ward,

On Saturday December 08 2018 00:05, you wrote to me:

What happens iof you try to ping fido.vlist.eu?

********************************************************************** Pinging fido.vlist.eu [2001:1c02:1100:bd00:f1d0:2:280:5555]
with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 2001:1c02:1100:bd00:f1d0:2:280:5555: time=25ms

So far so good.

You definitely have IPv6 and not just that, you have full dual stack. You not only have a block of IPv6 addresses, you also still have a public IPv4 address.

Consider yourself lucky.

Go to the setup of your router and look for a setting to enable
ICMP or PING for IPv6.

I think there may be a problem there. The router is ISP-provided and pretty good. However there are 3 lvels to log into "User", "Admin" and "Expert" and they only give-out the password for "User".

That level is too low to do what you ask.

Oh.... That sucks. Consider yourself not so lucky...

Maybe you still have a friend at Belgacom that can "arrange" something for you.

Maybe there are some tricks to raise your access level. Google is your friend. An maybe we do not need it for now. Ping is nice, but not essantial.

Let me get to their local shop on Monday and see if they understand
what I'm talking about ...

Don't be surprised if you get a blank stare if you ask about IPv6...

Hmmm... click om the "general" button on the top..

IPv6 connectivity

Ipv6 Supported
Address 2a02:a03f:4a2f:c300:55aa:95e6:46e2:3b60
Type Native IPv6
SLAAC No
ICMP Filtered
Hostname None
ISP Belgacom

Browser
Default IPv6
Fallback to IPv4 in <1 second

DNS
DNS4+IP6 Reachable
DNS6+IP4 Reachable
DNS6+IP6 Reachable

Good, except for one thing. "ICMP filtered". IPv6 requires ICMP to properly functionm but not all of ICMP is needed. YMMV...

What puzzels me is that you obviously have outgoing IPv6 capability and your OS

is configuerd to first try IPv6. A very simple quick test is here:

www.kame.net

If you see the turtle dance, you have outgoing IPv6.

What puzzles me is that your binkd does not make outgoing IPv6 calls. AFAIK, all versions of binkd that support IPv6 default to the OS preference when choosing between IPv4 and IPv6. In your case IPv6.

Binkd should make outgoing IPv6 calls. But it does not, you come in with IPv4 in my logs.
Binkd can be forced to use either IPv4 or IPv6 on an outgoing call, but that is

not the default.

There may be something in the interface between D'Bridge and Binkd that I am unaware of. Kees should be your man, AFAIK he is the only Fidonet sysop that got D'Bridge to do IPv6.

No incoming IPv6 yet.

With IPv4 you have to make an entry in the NAT table to allow incoming. With IPv6 there is nno NAT. Every device on the LAN has its own public IPv6 address.

No need to do address translation.

By default the IPv6 firewall in the router will drop every unsollicited incomong IPv6 packet. To allow incoming one has to punch a hole in the firewall

for the port(s) and destination(s).

In order to "help" users, router manufacturers sometimes call it "forwarding" anyway. Sometimes it is in the same page as the IPv4 forwarding, sometimes it a

separate IPv6 page. So you have to look in the firewall settings for "port forwarding" or "opening ports" or something like that.

Since there is no translation, you specify just two parameters. The port number

or port range and the destination. Sometimes the destination can be an IPv6 address, some also allow a MAC address.

If your router allows it I recommend using :: for the destination addres for port 24554. :: stands for "all IPv6 adresses" That way you never have to change

it any more. And the risk of allowing port 24554 to all destinations in your LAn is minimal. If your router does not allow :: use the MAc address or IPv6 address of the destination.


Cheers, Michiel

--- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20170303
* Origin: he.net certified sage (2:280/5555)

Hello Tommi,

On Saturday December 08 2018 08:15, you wrote to Ward Dossche:

ISP-provided routers are usually not-pretty-good, because "they" are
in control, not you.

Your milage may vary. The router from my ISP is not so bad. It has two levels. "user" and "advanced". All I have to do to go to the "advanced" settings is two

clicks in a "are you sure you know what you are doing" screen. The advanced part is English only. The user part is Dutch.

I've got one Huawei LTE router with ISP branded firmware which doesn't allow incoming IPv6 not matter what. Even with "admin" rights...

Bummer...


Cheers, Michiel

--- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20170303
* Origin: he.net certified sage (2:280/5555)

Hello Ward,

Saturday December 08 2018 09:03, I wrote to you:

What puzzles me is that your binkd does not make outgoing IPv6 calls.

Just to rule out some things I would like you tpo try the following.

- Disble D'Bridge and make sure the binkd server is not running.

- Go to the directory where binkd.exe is located and type:

binkd -pP2:280/5555 binkd.cfg (or whatever is the name of binkd's config file)

- If it does not make a outgoing IPv6 call to my system:

- Find the part in the config where my node is defined and insert '-6' between
the node number and the password:

node 2:280/5555 -6 password

- Then again: binkd -pP2:280/5555 binkd.cfg


Tell us what happens.


Cheers, Michiel

--- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20170303
* Origin: he.net certified sage (2:280/5555)

Michiel,

Maybe you still have a friend at Belgacom that can "arrange" something
for you. Maybe there are some tricks to raise your access level. Google
is your friend. An maybe we do not need it for now. Ping is nice, but not essantial.

My Belgacom years are 16 years behind me, the people I knew have mostly been reorganized away.

Belgacom\Proximus\Skynet do not seem to have a public forum to ask questions and from what I encounter Googling it seems there are a lot of frustrated people who simply want more.

What they are attempting is discouraging the possibility that you have incoming

IPv6, discourage home-servers. Phone-support seems to be of the "I hope I don't

break my nail" kind.

Let me get to their local shop on Monday and see if they understand Mv>WD> what I'm talking about ...

Don't be surprised if you get a blank stare if you ask about IPv6...

That's what I fear ... they are good at selling smartphones.

What puzzels me is that you obviously have outgoing IPv6 capability and your OS is configuerd to first try IPv6. A very simple quick test is
here:

www.kame.net

If you see the turtle dance, you have outgoing IPv6.

Let me put it this way, the turtle isn't dancing, looks more like swimming but I guess that's what you meant.

What puzzles me is that your binkd does not make outgoing IPv6 calls. AFAIK, all versions of binkd that support IPv6 default to the OS
preference when choosing between IPv4 and IPv6. In your case IPv6.

Binkd should make outgoing IPv6 calls. But it does not, you come in with IPv4 in my logs.
Binkd can be forced to use either IPv4 or IPv6 on an outgoing call, but that is not the default.

There may be something in the interface between D'Bridge and Binkd that I am unaware of. Kees should be your man, AFAIK he is the only Fidonet
sysop that got D'Bridge to do IPv6.

I think D'bridge is not involved. Way way back when Chris Irwin dropped away and there litterally was no D'Bridge support until Nick popped and started his Opus Magnum, I wrote my own work-around to become IP-capable, and to this day these routines still work ... if it ain't broke don't fix it.

It simply is a Binkley-style outbound which I create and Binkd deals with that.

And D'bridge itself does not have any generic binkp-capable code. It als creates a Binkly-style outbound ... I think. Let me upgrade to the latest DB-distributed binkd-code and see what happens.

By default the IPv6 firewall in the router will drop every unsollicited incomong IPv6 packet. To allow incoming one has to punch a hole in the firewall for the port(s) and destination(s).

I will play with it some more the next few days.

\%/@rd

--- D'Bridge 3.99 SR33
* Origin: When there's an elephant in the room, introduce him (2:292/854)

Michiel,

- Disble D'Bridge and make sure the binkd server is not running.

Done, although I don't think it's relevant.

- Go to the directory where binkd.exe is located and type:

binkd -pP2:280/5555 binkd.cfg (or whatever is the name of binkd's
config file)

Plain old IPv4 call.

- If it does not make a outgoing IPv6 call to my system:

- Find the part in the config where my node is defined and insert '-6' between
the node number and the password:

node 2:280/5555 -6 password

- Then again: binkd -pP2:280/5555 binkd.cfg

Tell us what happens.

***************************************************************************** node 2:280/5555 fido.vlist.eu -6 XXXXXXXXXX C


08 Dec 13:25:28 [4656] creating a poll for 2:280/5555@fidonet (`d' flavour)
08 Dec 13:25:28 [4656] clientmgr started
+ 08 Dec 13:25:28 [4436] call to 2:280/5555@fidonet
08 Dec 13:25:28 [4436] trying fido.vlist.eu [83.85.196.65]...
08 Dec 13:25:28 [4436] connected
+ 08 Dec 13:25:28 [4436] outgoing session with fido.vlist.eu:24554 [83.85.196.65]
- 08 Dec 13:25:28 [4436] OPT CRAM-MD5-dd8ba4083c4ef20a29b7099f2b6008ee
+ 08 Dec 13:25:28 [4436] Remote requests MD mode
- 08 Dec 13:25:28 [4436] SYS Nieuw Schnoord
- 08 Dec 13:25:28 [4436] ZYZ Michiel van der Vlist
- 08 Dec 13:25:28 [4436] LOC Driebergen, NL
- 08 Dec 13:25:28 [4436] NDL CM,MO,IBN:fido.vlist.eu,RPK,NPK,ENC,NC,PING,IPv6 -

08 Dec 13:25:28 [4436] TIME Sat, 8 Dec 2018 13:25:26 +0100
- 08 Dec 13:25:28 [4436] VER binkd/1.1a-99/Win32 binkp/1.1
+ 08 Dec 13:25:28 [4436] addr: 2:280/5555@fidonet
+ 08 Dec 13:25:28 [4436] addr: 2:28/0@fidonet
- 08 Dec 13:25:29 [4436] OPT EXTCMD CRYPT GZ BZ2
+ 08 Dec 13:25:29 [4436] Remote supports EXTCMD mode
+ 08 Dec 13:25:29 [4436] Remote requests CRYPT mode
+ 08 Dec 13:25:29 [4436] Remote supports GZ mode
+ 08 Dec 13:25:29 [4436] Remote supports BZ2 mode
+ 08 Dec 13:25:29 [4436] pwd protected session (MD5)
- 08 Dec 13:25:29 [4436] session in CRYPT mode
+ 08 Dec 13:25:29 [4436] done (to 2:280/5555@fidonet, OK, S/R: 0/0 (0/0 bytes))
08 Dec 13:25:29 [4436] session closed, quitting...
08 Dec 13:25:29 [4656] the queue is empty, quitting... *****************************************************************************

\%/@rd

--- D'Bridge 3.99 SR33
* Origin: When there's an elephant in the room, introduce him (2:292/854)

Michiel,

Tell us what happens.

So I explored further {this is rather fascinating} and installed the binkd-version that came with the latest D'Bridge release (2 days ago).

It reacts different on the binkd '-pP2:280/5555 binkd.cfg'-command:

1) By forcing IPv6:

*****************************************************************************
08 Dec 14:02:53 [8964] BEGIN standalone, binkd/1.1a-99/Win32 -pP2:280/5555 binkd.cfg
08 Dec 14:02:53 [8964] creating a poll for 2:280/5555@fidonet (`d' flavour)
08 Dec 14:02:53 [8964] clientmgr started
+ 08 Dec 14:02:53 [4556] call to 2:280/5555@fidonet
08 Dec 14:02:53 [4556] trying fido.vlist.eu [2001:1c02:1100:bd00:f1d0:2:280 5555]...
? 08 Dec 14:02:54 [4556] connection to 2:280/5555@fidonet failed: {W32 API error 10061} Connection refused
08 Dec 14:02:54 [8964] the queue is empty, quitting... *****************************************************************************

By NOT forcing IPv6 ...

*****************************************************************************
08 Dec 14:05:38 [2648] BEGIN standalone, binkd/1.1a-99/Win32 -pP2:280/5555 binkd.cfg
08 Dec 14:05:38 [2648] creating a poll for 2:280/5555@fidonet (`d' flavour)
08 Dec 14:05:38 [2648] clientmgr started
+ 08 Dec 14:05:38 [8932] call to 2:280/5555@fidonet
08 Dec 14:05:39 [8932] trying fido.vlist.eu [2001:1c02:1100:bd00:f1d0:2:280 5555]...
? 08 Dec 14:05:40 [8932] connection to 2:280/5555@fidonet failed: {W32 API error 10061} Connection refused
08 Dec 14:05:40 [8932] trying fido.vlist.eu [83.85.196.65]:24554...
? 08 Dec 14:05:41 [8932] connection to 2:280/5555@fidonet failed: {W32 API error 10061} Connection refused
08 Dec 14:05:41 [2648] the queue is empty, quitting... *****************************************************************************

Now I'm going to get ready for my football game ... some things in life are important ...

\%/@rd

--- D'Bridge 3.99 SR40
* Origin: When there's an elephant in the room, introduce him (2:292/854)

Hello Ward,

On Saturday December 08 2018 13:31, you wrote to me:

******* node 2:280/5555 fido.vlist.eu -6 XXXXXXXXXX C

Oops, my mistake. The '-6' should be between the node number and the host name:

node 2:280/5555 -6 fido.vlist.eu XXXXXXXXXX C

Please try again.


Cheers, Michiel

--- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20170303
* Origin: he.net certified sage (2:280/5555)

Hello Ward,

On Saturday December 08 2018 13:15, you wrote to me:

Maybe you still have a friend at Belgacom that can "arrange"
something for you. Maybe there are some tricks to raise your
access level. Google is your friend. An maybe we do not need it
for now. Ping is nice, but not essantial.

My Belgacom years are 16 years behind me, the people I knew have
mostly been reorganized away.

That long? How time flies. Well, it was a long shot...

Belgacom\Proximus\Skynet do not seem to have a public forum to ask questions and from what I encounter Googling it seems there are a lot
of frustrated people who simply want more.

Hmm... sounds like an arrogant quasi monopolist...

What they are attempting is discouraging the possibility that you have incoming IPv6, discourage home-servers. Phone-support seems to be of
the "I hope I don't break my nail" kind.

Just "discourage" or make it totally impossible? Do they allow you to connect your own modem/router?

Since you no longer enjoy the benefits of an (ex)employee and they are so customer unfriendly, maybe it is time to say goodbye to Belgacom and take your business elsewhere?

What puzzels me is that you obviously have outgoing IPv6 capability
and your OS is configuerd to first try IPv6. A very simple quick test
is here:

www.kame.net

If you see the turtle dance, you have outgoing IPv6.

Let me put it this way, the turtle isn't dancing, looks more like
swimming but I guess that's what you meant.

"Dancing" is what the makers of that website call it. But indeed, it looks more

like swimming. If you connect via IPv4 the turtle does not move.

There may be something in the interface between D'Bridge and Binkd
that I am unaware of. Kees should be your man, AFAIK he is the
only Fidonet sysop that got D'Bridge to do IPv6.

I think D'bridge is not involved.

Well, /something/ is stopping binkd from making IPv6 calls.

Way way back when Chris Irwin dropped away and there litterally was no D'Bridge support until Nick popped and started his Opus Magnum, I
wrote my own work-around to become IP-capable, and to this day these routines still work ... if it ain't broke don't fix it.

/Something/ is broke. Binkd does not make outgoing IPv6 calls It probably is not D'Bridge but until we have ruled it out, we don't know.

It simply is a Binkley-style outbound which I create and Binkd deals
with that.

If it really is that and only that...

But where does the configuration file for binkd come from? Is it created totally seperated from D'Bridge or does D'Bridge write to binkd's config file?

And D'bridge itself does not have any generic binkp-capable code.

My understanding is that there still is some assembler code in it. Those tricks

were needed in the early 90ties when computers were much slower than they are now. These tricks had side effects that two decades later sometimes get in the way by doing things to the system that they shouldn't...

I myself have been guilty of using undocumented system cals and writing directly to the hardware in the DOS days. Those shortcuts are a severe no-no in

the third millenium.

It als creates a Binkly-style outbound ... I think. Let me upgrade to
the latest DB-distributed binkd-code and see what happens.

The latest binkd release that I use is binkd11a99-mingw32-ipv6-perldl-zlib-bzlib2.zip

To be found here: https://sites.google.com/site/vasilyevmax/fido

By default the IPv6 firewall in the router will drop every
unsollicited incomong IPv6 packet. To allow incoming one has to
punch a hole in the firewall for the port(s) and destination(s).

I will play with it some more the next few days.

OK.


Cheers, Michiel

--- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20170303
* Origin: he.net certified sage (2:280/5555)

Hello Ward,

On Saturday December 08 2018 14:14, you wrote to me:

So I explored further {this is rather fascinating} and installed the binkd-version that came with the latest D'Bridge release (2 days ago).

It reacts different on the binkd '-pP2:280/5555 binkd.cfg'-command:

But exactly as I hoped and expected ... when trying to call my system during the few minutes that it was off-line... :(

We are making progress.

1) By forcing IPv6:

********************************************************************** ******* 08 Dec 14:02:53 [8964] BEGIN standalone, binkd/1.1a-99/Win32 -pP2:280/5555 binkd.cfg 08 Dec 14:02:53 [8964] creating a poll for 2:280/5555@fidonet (`d' flavour) 08 Dec 14:02:53 [8964] clientmgr
started + 08 Dec 14:02:53 [4556] call to 2:280/5555@fidonet 08 Dec 14:02:53 [4556] trying fido.vlist.eu [2001:1c02:1100:bd00:f1d0:2:280 5555]... ? 08 Dec 14:02:54 [4556] connection to 2:280/5555@fidonet
failed: {W32 API error 10061} Connection refused 08 Dec 14:02:54
[8964] the queue is empty, quitting...

Well, at least it tried IPv6...

With the force -6 it does not try IPv4 (v1,99 will try both with -64)

By NOT forcing IPv6 ...

********************************************************************** ******* 08 Dec 14:05:38 [2648] BEGIN standalone, binkd/1.1a-99/Win32 -pP2:280/5555 binkd.cfg 08 Dec 14:05:38 [2648] creating a poll for 2:280/5555@fidonet (`d' flavour) 08 Dec 14:05:38 [2648] clientmgr
started + 08 Dec 14:05:38 [8932] call to 2:280/5555@fidonet 08 Dec 14:05:39 [8932] trying fido.vlist.eu [2001:1c02:1100:bd00:f1d0:2:280 5555]... ? 08 Dec 14:05:40 [8932] connection to 2:280/5555@fidonet
failed: {W32 API error 10061} Connection refused

Tries IPv6 first.

08 Dec 14:05:40 [8932] trying fido.vlist.eu [83.85.196.65]:24554... ?
08 Dec 14:05:41 [8932] connection to 2:280/5555@fidonet failed: {W32
API error 10061} Connection refused 08 Dec 14:05:41 [2648] the queue
is empty, quitting...

And tries IPv4 next...

You can try again. You can also try some others from the weekly published IPv6 list. Wilfred, Kees, Andrew, Alexey...

I think if you let D'Bridge use that 1.99 version, outgoing IPv6 will work...


Cheers, Michiel

--- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20170303
* Origin: he.net certified sage (2:280/5555)

Hello Michiel!

08 Dec 18 14:36, you wrote to Ward Dossche:

MvdV> But where does the configuration file for binkd come from? Is it created
MvdV> totally seperated from D'Bridge or does D'Bridge write to binkd's config
MvdV> file?

Dbrige is just as much involved in the actions as your Fmail.
Ward uses a separate configfile, but the one dbrigde generates is
perfectly well, it works here for almost a year. So harping on dbridge is
a waste of time.

And D'bridge itself does not have any generic binkp-capable code.

MvdV> My understanding is that there still is some assembler code in it. Those
MvdV> tricks were needed in the early 90ties when computers were much slower
MvdV> than they are now. These tricks had side effects that two decades later
MvdV> sometimes get in the way by doing things to the system that they
MvdV> shouldn't...

Dbrigde is a scanner, tosser, message editor, scheduler and pots mailer.
There is no other connection that BSO file area and semaphore files.

MvdV> The latest binkd release that I use is
MvdV> binkd11a99-mingw32-ipv6-perldl-zlib-bzlib2.zip

MvdV> To be found here: https://sites.google.com/site/vasilyevmax/fido

The last few versions were just addition of useless options.
Almost nay available version shoild wordk with ipv6 as long as it is
compiled in.


Kees

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5
* Origin: As for me, all I know is that, I know nothing. (2:280/5003.4)

Hello Kees,

On Saturday December 08 2018 18:23, you wrote to me:

MvdV>> But where does the configuration file for binkd come from? Is
MvdV>> it created totally seperated from D'Bridge or does D'Bridge
MvdV>> write to binkd's config file?

Dbrige is just as much involved in the actions as your Fmail. Ward
uses a separate configfile, but the one dbrigde generates is perfectly well, it works here for almost a year. So harping on dbridge is a
waste of time.

I was not harping on D'Bridge, I was trying to pinpoint the source of the problem by elimination. The inner workings of D'Bridge have always been treaetd

as if they are state secrets. So I had to work on a minimum of knowledge.

Dbrigde is a scanner, tosser, message editor, scheduler and pots
mailer. There is no other connection that BSO file area and semaphore files.

OK...

MvdV>> The latest binkd release that I use is
MvdV>> binkd11a99-mingw32-ipv6-perldl-zlib-bzlib2.zip

MvdV>> To be found here:
MvdV>> https://sites.google.com/site/vasilyevmax/fido

The last few versions were just addition of useless options.

When encountering problems, it is always a good strategy to try the latest version. Whether one needs it or not. The latest version is the only one that is maintained.

Almost nay available version shoild wordk with ipv6 as long as it is
compiled in.

The way it looks now, is that the version of binkd that Ward used was the exception. Despite the fact that it showed the IPv6 compile option was used, it

would not do IPv6. So replacing it was NOT useless in tracing the problem.


Cheers, Michiel

--- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20170303
* Origin: he.net certified sage (2:280/5555)

Michiel,

I was not harping on D'Bridge, I was trying to pinpoint the source of the problem by elimination. The inner workings of D'Bridge have always been treaetd as if they are state secrets. So I had to work on a minimum of knowledge.

That is a slight exageration.

D'Bridge is exactly as Kees describes. It generates an outbound-queue in a base-36 format. This is how it was made to work "here" and still does ...

DBUTIL moves everything for a specific client into a dedicated directory,
in this case 2:250/1

c:
cd c:\db
dbutil move 2:250/1 C:\DB\BINKD\22501

Deleting a trailing FLO-line

c:
cd c:\db\binkd\22501
del ????????.flo

Check if there is content in that directory

c:
cd c:\db\binkd\22501
dir /a-d/b 2>nul >nul
if errorlevel 1 goto end

Unpack possible packed content into pkt-files

c:
cd c:\db\binkd\22501
call c:\db\bat\unpack.bat

Create FLO-file of whatever content is in the dedicated directory and let BINKD

do its thing zith it ...

c:
cd c:\db\binkd\22501
d:\soupgate\genflow 250 1
copy ????????.flo c:\binkd\outbound

:end

You know how to read a batch file.

The way it looks now, is that the version of binkd that Ward used was the exception. Despite the fact that it showed the IPv6 compile option was used, it would not do IPv6. So replacing it was NOT useless in tracing
the problem.

This is the version I am about to use now ...

***************************************************************************** Binkd 1.1a-99 (Jun 25 2018 22:50:08/Win32)
Compilation flags: mingw32, zlib, bzlib2, perldl, https, ntlm, amiga_4d_outbound, bwlim, ipv6, af_force.
Facilities: fts5004 ipv6 *****************************************************************************

FYI.

\%/@rd

--- D'Bridge 3.99 SR40
* Origin: When there's an elephant in the room, introduce him (2:292/854)

Michiel,

This is the version I am about to use now ...

************************************************************************* Binkd 1.1a-99 (Jun 25 2018 22:50:08/Win32)
Compilation flags: mingw32, zlib, bzlib2, perldl, https, ntlm, amiga_4d_outbound, bwlim, ipv6, af_force.
Facilities: fts5004 ipv6 *************************************************************************

I just checked and it seems I now have outgoing IPv6-connections with you, Kees, Wilfred, Tommi...

\%/@rd

--- D'Bridge 3.99 SR40
* Origin: When there's an elephant in the room, introduce him (2:292/854)

I just checked and it seems I now have outgoing IPv6-connections with
you, Kees, Wilfred, Tommi...

And Benni ...

\%/@rd

--- D'Bridge 3.99 SR40
* Origin: When there's an elephant in the room, introduce him (2:292/854)

Hello Ward,

On Saturday December 08 2018 22:16, you wrote to me:

This is the version I am about to use now ...

********************************************************************** Binkd 1.1a-99 (Jun 25 2018 22:50:08/Win32) Compilation flags:
mingw32, zlib, bzlib2, perldl, https, ntlm, amiga_4d_outbound, bwlim, ipv6, af_force.
Facilities: fts5004 ipv6 **********************************************************************

Looks like the same one I am using.

And look at this:


- 08 Dec 22:18:26 [3448] incoming from 2a02:a03f:4a2f:c300:55aa:95e6:46e2:3b60 (59017)
+ 08 Dec 22:18:26 [2096] incoming session with 2a02:a03f:4a2f:c300:55aa:95e6:46e2:3b60
- 08 Dec 22:18:26 [2096] SYS Many Glacier
- 08 Dec 22:18:26 [2096] ZYZ Ward Dossche
- 08 Dec 22:18:26 [2096] LOC Mortsel, Belgium
- 08 Dec 22:18:26 [2096] NDL 115200,TCP,BINKP
- 08 Dec 22:18:26 [2096] TIME Sat, 8 Dec 2018 22:18:28 +0100
- 08 Dec 22:18:26 [2096] VER binkd/1.1a-99/Win32 binkp/1.1
+ 08 Dec 22:18:26 [2096] addr: 2:292/854@fidonet
+ 08 Dec 22:18:26 [2096] addr: 2:2/0@fidonet

Congratulations. You made an IPv6 connect. Welcome to the Fidonet IPv6 club!

For the moment I will list you as "Outgoing Only".



Cheers, Michiel

--- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20170303
* Origin: he.net certified sage (2:280/5555)

Hi Ward,

On 2018-12-08 22:25:34, you wrote to you:

This is the version I am about to use now ...

***********************************************************************
** Binkd 1.1a-99 (Jun 25 2018 22:50:08/Win32) Compilation flags:
mingw32, zlib, bzlib2, perldl, https, ntlm, amiga_4d_outbound, bwlim,
ipv6, af_force.
Facilities: fts5004 ipv6
***********************************************************************
**

I just checked and it seems I now have outgoing IPv6-connections with you, Kees, Wilfred, Tommi...

Confirmed:

+ 08 Dec 22:29:18 [13492] incoming session with 2a02:a03f:4a2f:c300:55aa:95e6:46e2:3b60
- 08 Dec 22:29:18 [13492] SYS Many Glacier
- 08 Dec 22:29:18 [13492] ZYZ Ward Dossche
- 08 Dec 22:29:18 [13492] LOC Mortsel, Belgium
- 08 Dec 22:29:18 [13492] NDL 115200,TCP,BINKP
- 08 Dec 22:29:18 [13492] TIME Sat, 8 Dec 2018 22:29:22 +0100
- 08 Dec 22:29:18 [13492] VER binkd/1.1a-99/Win32 binkp/1.1
+ 08 Dec 22:29:18 [13492] addr: 2:292/854@fidonet
+ 08 Dec 22:29:18 [13492] addr: 2:2/0@fidonet
+ 08 Dec 22:29:18 [13492] addr: 2:292/80@fidonet
- 08 Dec 22:29:18 [13492] OPT NDA EXTCMD CRYPT GZ BZ2
+ 08 Dec 22:29:18 [13492] Remote supports asymmetric ND mode
+ 08 Dec 22:29:18 [13492] Remote supports EXTCMD mode
+ 08 Dec 22:29:18 [13492] Remote requests CRYPT mode
+ 08 Dec 22:29:18 [13492] Remote supports GZ mode
+ 08 Dec 22:29:18 [13492] Remote supports BZ2 mode
- 08 Dec 22:29:18 [13492] TRF 0 530
+ 08 Dec 22:29:18 [13492] Remote has 0b of mail and 530b of files for us
+ 08 Dec 22:29:18 [13492] pwd protected session (MD5)
- 08 Dec 22:29:18 [13492] session in CRYPT mode
- 08 Dec 22:29:18 [13492] receiving 62228321.PKT (530 byte(s), off 0)
+ 08 Dec 22:29:19 [13492] rcvd: 62228321.PKT (530, 530.00 CPS, 2:292/854@fidonet)
+ 08 Dec 22:29:19 [13492] done (from 2:292/854@fidonet, OK, S/R: 0/1 (0/530 bytes))


Bye, Wilfred.

--- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.18-B20170815
* Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)

Hello Ward,

On Saturday December 08 2018 22:28, you wrote to me:

I just checked and it seems I now have outgoing IPv6-connections
with you, Kees, Wilfred, Tommi...

I see that you have added an IPv6 address to many-glacier.dyndns.org. I get no connection.

But it is the wrong address anyway.

Windows has a "feature" called "privacy extensions". If this feature s enabled it will use a temporary IPv6 addresses for making outgoing calls. The default life time is 24 hours. After that a new temporary address will be used for outgoing calls. One can accpet incoming on these tenporary addresses but it is impractical because it keeps changing.

ipconfig will give you all the IPv6 addresses and some are marked "temporary". Use the one not marked as temporary for incoming calls. The last one was:


2a02:a03f:4a2f:c300:4df3:890a:8ec1:7cc0

You may want to turn of this "feature". It is not much use when you run a server and have to advertise the Ip address anyway.

netsh int ipv6 set privacy disabled


Cheers, Michiel

--- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20170303
* Origin: he.net certified sage (2:280/5555)

Hi Michiel!

Saturday December 08 2018 14:36, you wrote to Ward Dossche:

MvdV> The latest binkd release that I use is
MvdV> binkd11a99-mingw32-ipv6-perldl-zlib-bzlib2.zip

MvdV> To be found here: https://sites.google.com/site/vasilyevmax/fido

Should you try? http://download.binkd.org/

Have a nice night.
Stas Mishchenkov.

--- Have You daily sexual life? Hide it proper from Your wife!
* Origin: Lame Users Breeding. Simferopol, Crimea. (2:460/5858)

Hello Stas,

On Sunday December 09 2018 10:05, you wrote to me:

MvdV>> binkd11a99-mingw32-ipv6-perldl-zlib-bzlib2.zip

MvdV>> To be found here:
MvdV>> https://sites.google.com/site/vasilyevmax/fido

Should you try? http://download.binkd.org/

Yes, that's am alternativ. Thanks for the link.


Cheers, Michiel

--- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20170303
* Origin: he.net certified sage (2:280/5555)

Good ${greeting_time}, Ward!

07 Dec 2018 14:58:38, you wrote to Y'all:

binkd/1.1a-94/Win32
So I think that's a goodone.

It is 2 years old. Take http://download.binkd.org/win/binkd11a99-msvc10x64-4gb-ipv6-static-perl-zlib-bz lib2.zip or http://download.binkd.org/win/binkd11a99-msvc10-4gb-ipv6-static-perl-zlib-bzlib 2.zip


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Alexey,

binkd/1.1a-94/Win32
So I think that's a goodone.

It is 2 years old.

When there are a handful of messages in an echo, it helps to read them all first before starting the answer because the specific message you're trying to respond to, as well as the response itself, may have been bypassed already by the flow of messages.

\%/@rd

--- D'Bridge 3.99 SR40
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Hello Ward,

Did you find out how to punch a hole in the IPv6 firewall of your router yet?


Cheers, Michiel

--- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20170303
* Origin: he.net certified sage (2:280/5555)

Michiel,

Did you find out how to punch a hole in the IPv6 firewall of your router yet?

No time.

Eventually yesterday my favorite football team played and I do have a season's ticket for the home games. So there I went.

At the moment I'm working at the house, redecorating rooms, painting, new floors ... that kind of stuff. The next couple of days my wife works her night shifts at the hospital and I have all the household chores just for myself. Tomorrow evening my youngest daughter takes me to the Kursk-movie ... so it may

be a couple of days before I pursue the IPv6 plans. Don't even have time tomorrow to go to the phone-shop to inquire about the router-login.

BTW, my thanks for the help and assistance (and enthusiasm) in this particular matter.

\%/@rd

--- D'Bridge 3.99 SR40
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Hi Ward!

Sunday December 09 2018 21:59, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to you:

MvdV> Did you find out how to punch a hole in the IPv6 firewall of your
MvdV> router yet?

Do you know that your node does not respond for several days on IPv4 to?

Have a nice night.
Stas Mishchenkov.

--- Have You daily sexual life? Hide it proper from Your wife!
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Stas,

MvdV> Did you find out how to punch a hole in the IPv6 firewall of your MvdV> router yet?

Do you know that your node does not respond for several days on IPv4 to?

Interesting.

We know that I do not have incoming IPv6 ... yet. And now you're telling me I have no incoming IPv4 either.

Then where does your message come from?

If I look in log I see ...

- 10 Dec 00:00:08 [7604] incoming from 77.243.226.170 (2075)
- 10 Dec 00:00:10 [7604] incoming from 80.211.41.104 (35090)
- 10 Dec 00:00:29 [7604] incoming from 77.243.226.167 (3217)
- 10 Dec 00:01:06 [7604] incoming from 96.49.112.45 (53456)
- 10 Dec 00:02:02 [7604] incoming from 77.243.226.167 (3221)
- 10 Dec 00:03:13 [7604] incoming from 83.130.140.161 (37474)
- 10 Dec 00:04:05 [7604] incoming from 172.104.248.211 (38304)
- 10 Dec 00:09:02 [7604] incoming from 31.200.173.60 (39351)

... Isn't that all IPv4 ?

\%/@rd

--- D'Bridge 3.99 SR40
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Hi Ward!

Monday December 10 2018 10:39, you wrote to me:

MvdV> Did you find out how to punch a hole in the IPv6 firewall of
your
MvdV> router yet?

Do you know that your node does not respond for several days on IPv4 to?

Interesting.

We know that I do not have incoming IPv6 ... yet. And now you're telling me I have no incoming IPv4 either.

Then where does your message come from?

Who knows? ;)

If I look in log I see ...

- 10 Dec 00:00:08 [7604] incoming from 77.243.226.170 (2075)
- 10 Dec 00:00:10 [7604] incoming from 80.211.41.104 (35090)
- 10 Dec 00:00:29 [7604] incoming from 77.243.226.167 (3217)
- 10 Dec 00:01:06 [7604] incoming from 96.49.112.45 (53456)
- 10 Dec 00:02:02 [7604] incoming from 77.243.226.167 (3221)
- 10 Dec 00:03:13 [7604] incoming from 83.130.140.161 (37474)
- 10 Dec 00:04:05 [7604] incoming from 172.104.248.211 (38304)
- 10 Dec 00:09:02 [7604] incoming from 31.200.173.60 (39351)

... Isn't that all IPv4 ?

Yep. Now I have IPv4 connection to you to. On a few days my node can't get IP from many-glacier.dyndns.org.

Have a nice night.
Stas Mishchenkov.

--- Have You daily sexual life? Hide it proper from Your wife!
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Stas,

Yep. Now I have IPv4 connection to you to. On a few days my node can't
get IP from many-glacier.dyndns.org.

It's not impossible. Indeed a few days ago the connection has been down for a few hours.

\%/@rd

--- D'Bridge 3.99 SR40
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Hello Ward,

On Sunday December 09 2018 22:32, you wrote to me:

Did you find out how to punch a hole in the IPv6 firewall of your
router yet?

No time.

Any progress?


Cheers, Michiel

--- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20170303
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Michiel,

Did you find out how to punch a hole in the IPv6 firewall of your Mv>Mv>> router yet?

No time.

Any progress?

Nope. Low on the agenda for the moment.

\%/@rd

--- D'Bridge 3.99 SR40
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Any progress?

Nope. Low on the agenda for the moment.

Is it above or below a totally insignificant chair election, that's been done with a long time ago, on that agenda?



..

--- Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; sv-SE; rv:1.9.1.16) Gecko/20101125
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Nope. Low on the agenda for the moment.

Is it above or below a totally insignificant chair election, that's
been done with a long time ago, on that agenda?

One of life's lessons which I try not to forget is that you never know what goes on behind someone's front door.

Now think about that for a minute or two.

\%/@rd

--- D'Bridge 3.99 SR40
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Hello Ward,

On Friday December 21 2018 13:24, you wrote to me:

Did you find out how to punch a hole in the IPv6 firewall of
your router yet?

No time.

Any progress?

Nope. Low on the agenda for the moment.

That was a month ago. Any progress?


Cheers, Michiel

--- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20170303
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Hi Michiel,

Nope. Low on the agenda for the moment.

That was a month ago. Any progress?

Nope. Still the same ... low on the agenda.

\%/@rd

--- D'Bridge 3.99 SR41
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Hello Ward,

On Wednesday January 23 2019 08:01, you wrote to me:

Nope. Low on the agenda for the moment.

That was a month ago. Any progress?

Nope. Still the same ... low on the agenda.

Another month has passed. Any progress?


Cheers, Michiel

--- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20170303
* Origin: he.net certified sage (2:280/5555)

Michiel,

Nope. Still the same ... low on the agenda.

Another month has passed. Any progress?

Life's still too complicated, a matter of priorities ...

\%/@rd

--- D'Bridge 3.99 SR41
* Origin: Ceci n'est pas un courriel (2:292/854)

Hello Ward,

Nope. Still the same ... low on the agenda.

Another month has passed. Any progress?


Cheers, Michiel

---
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Hello Ward!

07 Dec 2018 14:58, Ward Dossche wrote to Y'all:

So far with IPv4 everything went fine, but what is the next step now?

adding aaaa to the nodelist hostname, all is done, good weekend :)

but dont do this if ipv6 is dynamic or other crap of privacy settings

welcome to the ipv6 club as others say, hehe


Regards Benny

... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

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Hello Tommi!

08 Dec 2018 08:15, Tommi Koivula wrote to Ward Dossche:

I think there may be a problem there. The router is ISP-provided and
pretty good. However there are 3 lvels to log into "User", "Admin" and
"Expert" and they only give-out the password for "User".

+1

ISP-provided routers are usually not-pretty-good, because "they" are
in control, not you.

+1, ward may have nice isp that would help him getting ipv6 working in there control :)

since ipv6 is not natted, its only a matter of make the windows 7 with statick ipv6 ipv4, and then open the routers firewall, aswell in windows 7, not ipv6 needs firewall in endpoints not in routers, but it need to be open both places

have in mind that ip is on ipv6 direct, then its more understandble why it works or not

I've got one Huawei LTE router with ISP branded firmware which doesn't allow incoming IPv6 not matter what. Even with "admin" rights...

thats another problem ward do not have yet


Regards Benny

... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

--- Msged/LNX 6.1.2 (Linux/4.19.27-gentoo-r1 (x86_64))
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Hello Michiel!

08 Dec 2018 13:54, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Ward Dossche:

MvdV> Oops, my mistake. The '-6' should be between the node number and the
MvdV> host name:

MvdV> node 2:280/5555 -6 fido.vlist.eu XXXXXXXXXX C

MvdV> Please try again.

that nodeline is incorect

single stack should not be in binkd.cfg

dont make bad adwise to ward not even on important things in life with footballs :)


Regards Benny

... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

--- Msged/LNX 6.1.2 (Linux/4.19.27-gentoo-r1 (x86_64))
* Origin: I will always keep a PC running CPM 3.0 (2:230/0)

Hello Ward!

08 Dec 2018 22:28, Ward Dossche wrote to Michiel Van Der Vlist:

I just checked and it seems I now have outgoing IPv6-connections with
you, Kees, Wilfred, Tommi...

And Benni ...

----- ip begins -----
2001:470:27:302::2
2001:980:42ea:1:f1d0:2:280:5003
2a0b:dbc1:2:8035:f1d0:2:221:0
72.43.242.234
80.63.101.234
80.63.101.235
81.243.145.248
95.31.135.123
----- ip ends -----

is client ip i have today

----- ip begins -----
2001:470:1f15:cb0::16
2001:470:27:302::2
2a02:980:2a43:a400:2dc9:b8da:a42e:50ac
93.161.37.42
----- ip ends -----

is server ips i see today

why is it outgoing only ?

----- dns begins -----

; <<>> DiG 9.12.3-P4 <<>> f854.n292.z2.binkp.net aaaa
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 8914
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 1

;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 4096
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;f854.n292.z2.binkp.net. IN AAAA

;; ANSWER SECTION:
f854.n292.z2.binkp.net. 14331 IN CNAME many-glacier.dyndns.org.

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
dyndns.org. 540 IN SOA ns1.dyndns.org. hostmaster.dyndns.org. 1938925901 600 300 604800 600

;; Query time: 1 msec
;; SERVER: 139.162.130.5#53(139.162.130.5)
;; WHEN: Sat May 04 23:55:05 UTC 2019
;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 139


; <<>> DiG 9.12.3-P4 <<>> f854.n292.z2.binkp.net a
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 24534
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 2, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1

;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 4096
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;f854.n292.z2.binkp.net. IN A

;; ANSWER SECTION:
f854.n292.z2.binkp.net. 14324 IN CNAME many-glacier.dyndns.org. many-glacier.dyndns.org. 60 IN A 81.243.145.248

;; Query time: 39 msec
;; SERVER: 139.162.130.5#53(139.162.130.5)
;; WHEN: Sat May 04 23:55:11 UTC 2019
;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 104

----- dns ends -----

ah missing ipv6 on dyndns :)


Regards Benny

... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

--- Msged/LNX 6.1.2 (Linux/4.19.27-gentoo-r1 (x86_64))
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Hello Michiel!

25 May 2019 09:00, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Ward Dossche:

Nope. Still the same ... low on the agenda.

MvdV> Another month has passed. Any progress?

+1


Regards Benny

... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

--- Msged/LNX 6.1.2 (Linux/4.19.44-gentoo (x86_64))
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Michiel,

Another month has passed. Any progress?

Nope. And as I'm leaving for the US in 48hrs and will not return before Aug.6th
at the earliest, yet another month will pass.

\%/@rd

--- D'Bridge 3.99
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Good ${greeting_time}, Ward!

25 Jun 2019 11:43:56, you wrote to Michiel van der Vlist:

Another month has passed. Any progress?

Nope. And as I'm leaving for the US in 48hrs and will not return
before Aug.6th at the earliest, yet another month will pass.

Slowpokes are sooooooo sloooooooow...


--
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gremlin.ru!gremlin; +vii-cmiii-ccxxix-lxxix-xlii

... that's why I really dislike fools.
--- /bin/vi
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On 2019 Jun 25 13:09:00, you wrote to Ward Dossche:

Another month has passed. Any progress?

Nope. And as I'm leaving for the US in 48hrs and will not return
before Aug.6th at the earliest, yet another month will pass.

Slowpokes are sooooooo sloooooooow...

gotta have something to do tomorrow :)

)\/(ark

Always Mount a Scratch Monkey
Do you manage your own servers? If you are not running an IDS/IPS yer doin' it wrong...
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Michiel,

Nope. Still the same ... low on the agenda.

Another month has passed. Any progress?

Other than having spent over a month with practically no IP at all, Not really.

The weather's excellent and there's a puff of wind, so Ixm going sailing.

Ward
--- AfterShock/Android 1.6.8
* Origin: Baby-Glacier (2:292/854.1)

Michiel,

Nope. Still the same ... low on the agenda.

Another month has passed. Any progress?

No. Guess I'm not really trying ... One day I will.

\%/@rd

--- D'Bridge 3.99
* Origin: Do not meddle in the affairs of wizards (2:292/854)

Hello Ward,

No. Guess I'm not really trying ... One day I will.

Another three months have passed. Is this the day?


Cheers, Michiel

---
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Michiel,

No. Guess I'm not really trying ... One day I will.

Another three months have passed. Is this the day?

I have passed in the ISPs store on main street here.

First reaction "What are you talking about?"

After having explained that this is an issue cropping-up in their online own customer-customer fora I get a phone-number of a division where they will be able to assist me.

When I call that number, the answer is "What are you talking about?"

2 possible conclusions:

1) The helpdesk-people really don't know anything about this

2) The helpdesk-people are unwilling, or have been instructed not, to co-operate with such a request.

The company-installed routers have 3 access-levels and you get the password for
the lowest level which enables basic Fido-operation.

It seems impossible to get a password to get one level up in the router-administration hierarchy ... there seems to be a general idea that all their clients are morons and need to be protected against themselve messing-up their router and then having to send-out a technical guy.

\%/@rd

--- D'Bridge 3.99
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Michiel,

No. Guess I'm not really trying ... One day I will.

Another three months have passed. Is this the day?

The ISP is still refusing me the password for the higher-level in the company installed router to deal with this.

Their position is if they release such passwords that the customer may destroy the set-up.

I've also noticed they are able to upload new firmware and reboot the modem/router from a central site. If they give me the password I could change it and deny them the option to auto-update firmware. They want to avoid that too.

\%/@rd

--- DB4 - Dec.21 2020
* Origin: Hou het veilig, hou vol. Het komt allemaal weer goed (2:292/854)

Hello Ward,

On Friday December 25 2020 12:36, you wrote to me:

Another three months have passed. Is this the day?

The ISP is still refusing me the password for the higher-level in the company installed router to deal with this.

Bummer...

Their position is if they release such passwords that the customer may destroy the set-up.

Do they value the intelligence of their cusomers that low? People in countries all over Europe have the router password for access to the firewall and the InterNet does not implode.

I've also noticed they are able to upload new firmware and reboot the modem/router from a central site. If they give me the password I could change it and deny them the option to auto-update firmware. They want
to avoid that too.

Bullshit. My ISP can do a firmware upgrade and I can not block them from doing that despite the fact that I have a password for making chages needed to run severs. All they need to do is rearange the access levels.

An internet connection that does not allow the customer to access the firewall is a broken connection. How come the consumer allience - or whatever you have over there - does not make a fuss about it.

Are you really stuck with Proximus?


Cheers, Michiel

--- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20170303
* Origin: he.net certified sage (2:280/5555)

Michiel,

Are you really stuck with Proximus?

No, but as a former employee I do enjoy special rates and I prefer not to pay more in order to be online than I have to.

\%/@rd

--- DB4 - Dec.21 2020
* Origin: Hou het veilig, hou vol. Het komt allemaal weer goed (2:292/854)

Hi Ward!

Friday December 25 2020 12:36, you wrote to Michiel van der Vlist:

The ISP is still refusing me the password for the higher-level in the company installed router to deal with this.

Their position is if they release such passwords that the customer may destroy the set-up.

I've also noticed they are able to upload new firmware and reboot the modem/router from a central site. If they give me the password I could change it and deny them the option to auto-update firmware. They want to avoid that too.

When I ran into a similar problem at my cousin's house, the provider generally closed access to the settings of his router, I just made a reset to the factory configuration and set everything up myself, not forgetting to completely close all incoming connections, except for the ICMP.

Have a nice night.
Stas Mishchenkov.

--- Have You daily sexual life? Hide it proper from Your wife! ;)
* Origin: Lame Users Breeding. Simferopol, Crimea. (2:460/5858)

Great idea.
Also, if possible, ask the ISP to put their equipment in bridge mode and just put your own router behind their gear.

Andrei.

Hi Ward!

Friday December 25 2020 12:36, you wrote to Michiel van der Vlist:

The ISP is still refusing me the password for the higher-level in the
company installed router to deal with this.

Their position is if they release such passwords that the customer may
destroy the set-up.

I've also noticed they are able to upload new firmware and reboot the
modem/router from a central site. If they give me the password I could
change it and deny them the option to auto-update firmware. They want to
avoid that too.

When I ran into a similar problem at my cousin's house, the provider generally closed access to the settings of his router, I just made a reset to the factory configuration and set everything up myself, not forgetting to completely close all incoming connections, except for the ICMP.

Have a nice night.
Stas Mishchenkov.

--- AfterShock/Android 1.6.7
* Origin: pufa (2:530/306)

Hi Andrei!

Sunday December 27 2020 16:09, you wrote to me:

Great idea.
Also, if possible, ask the ISP to put their equipment in bridge mode
and just put your own router behind their gear.

If this is different, then you should think about changing the provider.

Have a nice night.
Stas Mishchenkov.

--- Have You daily sexual life? Hide it proper from Your wife! ;)
* Origin: Lame Users Breeding. Simferopol, Crimea. (2:460/5858)

What do you mean?
The ISP is offering a ZTE ONT here that can work both in router and bridge mode.
Mine is in bridge mode and I use a Netgate XG7100U behind it, running PFSense. I have a /56 from the ISP and both my VLANs have IPv6 without any issues.

Why should I change the ISP?

Thanks,
Andrei

Hi Andrei!

Sunday December 27 2020 16:09, you wrote to me:

Great idea.
Also, if possible, ask the ISP to put their equipment in bridge mode
and just put your own router behind their gear.

If this is different, then you should think about changing the provider.

Have a nice night.
Stas Mishchenkov.

--- AfterShock/Android 1.6.7
* Origin: pufa (2:530/306)