Hey Max!

:r !cat /proc/version | sed 's/^/ bitskii> /'
bitskii> Linux version 6.2.9 (root@bitskii) (gcc (GCC) 12.2.0, GNU ld (GNU Binutils) 2.40) #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Wed Apr 5 01:25:33 UTC 2023

Life is good,
Maurice

o- -o -o o- o- -o o- -o -o o- o- o- -o -o -o -o /) (\ (\ /) /) (\ /) (\ (\ /) /) /) (\ (\ (\ (\ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ... Fidonet 4K - Sweet Sixteen Penguins of the Apocalypse.
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Hello Maurice!

06 Apr 2023 04:52, Maurice Kinal wrote to Max Headroom:

:r !cat /proc/version | sed 's/^/ bitskii> /'

bitskii>> Linux version 6.2.9 (root@bitskii) (gcc (GCC) 12.2.0, GNU ld (GNU
bitskii>> Binutils) 2.40) #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Wed Apr 5 01:25:33 UTC
bitskii>> 2023

penguins goes to north pole ? :)


Regards Benny

... too late to die young :)

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Hey Benny!

penguins goes to north pole ? :)

North, south, east AND west of the Pecos.

Life is good,
Maurice

-o -o -o -o
(\ (\ (\ (\
^^ ^^ ^^ ^^
... Wel mon sceal wine healdan on wega gehwylcum.
One does well to keep a friend on every road.
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Hello Maurice!

08 Apr 2023 16:02, Maurice Kinal wrote to Benny Pedersen:

penguins goes to north pole ? :)

North, south, east AND west of the Pecos.

still long to mars :)


Regards Benny

... too late to die young :)

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Hey Benny!

penguins goes to north pole ? :)

North, south, east AND west of the Pecos.

still long to mars :)

Where's the kaboom? There was supposed to be an earth shattering kaboom.

Life is good,
Maurice

o- o- o- o- -o -o o- -o -o o- -o -o o- -o -o o- /) /) /) /) (\ (\ /) (\ (\ /) (\ (\ /) (\ (\ /) ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ... Fidonet 4K - Sweet Sixteen Penguins of the Apocalypse.
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Hello Maurice!

16 Apr 2023 17:39, Maurice Kinal wrote to Benny Pedersen:

Where's the kaboom? There was supposed to be an earth shattering
kaboom.

danish sattelit is sent, waiting for the northlight to be seen


Regards Benny

... too late to die young :)

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Hey Benny!

danish sattelit is sent, waiting for the northlight to be seen

Oh, goodie! My Illudium Q-36 explosive space modulator.

Life is good,
Maurice

o- o- -o -o o- o- o- o- o- -o o- -o o- o- -o o- /) /) (\ (\ /) /) /) /) /) (\ /) (\ /) /) (\ /) ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ... Fidonet 4K - Sweet Sixteen Penguins of the Apocalypse.
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Hello Maurice!

17 Apr 2023 03:35, Maurice Kinal wrote to Benny Pedersen:

danish sattelit is sent, waiting for the northlight to be seen

Oh, goodie! My Illudium Q-36 explosive space modulator.

lets see screen mode in 8k while counting the pixels as stars in universe, how does your kernel 6.3 work ?


Regards Benny

... too late to die young :)

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Hey Benny!

lets see screen mode in 8k while counting the pixels as stars in
universe

That will have to wait until you can afford to buy me an 8k monitor. I have an orange pi that claims to be able to handle one 8k monitor or two 4k monitors but enen then there aren't enough pixels.

how does your kernel 6.3 work ?

:r /proc/version
Linux version 6.3.2 (root@bitskii) (gcc (GCC) 13.1.0, GNU ld (GNU Binutils) 2.40) #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Sun May 14 00:13:25 UTC 2023

A few issues with usb but so far nothing fatal. How about yours?

Life is good,
Maurice

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Hello Maurice!

16 May 2023 16:11, Maurice Kinal wrote to Benny Pedersen:

Hey Benny!

lets see screen mode in 8k while counting the pixels as stars in
universe

That will have to wait until you can afford to buy me an 8k monitor.
I have an orange pi that claims to be able to handle one 8k monitor or two 4k monitors but enen then there aren't enough pixels.

+1, i will wait until 4k*4 got standard :=)

how does your kernel 6.3 work ?

:r /proc/version
Linux version 6.3.2 (root@bitskii) (gcc (GCC) 13.1.0, GNU ld (GNU Binutils) 2.40) #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Sun May 14 00:13:25 UTC 2023

A few issues with usb but so far nothing fatal. How about yours?

all ok here

i just currently fiddle with python versions, now 3.11 is std, and all old versions dependice need to go


Regards Benny

... too late to die young :)

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Hey Benny!

i will wait until 4k*4 got standard

16k? Given the cost of an 8k I seriously doubt it will be worth it no matter how many stars it can render. Besides you'll be no closer than you are with 4k given the 'infinite' number of them in comparison.

i just currently fiddle with python versions, now 3.11 is std,
and all old versions dependice need to go

So far all I have that requires python2 is seamonkey. Everything else has either been abandoned or hacked where needed, although at the moment I can only think of one app that requires messing with the version (gpsd) and I don't actually use it that much, mostly testing ideas. I can live without it.

:r !python --version
Python 2.7.18

:r !python3 --version
Python 3.11.3

As far as I am personally concerned, I see no need for either. Near as I can tell it's a hacking tool for Windows types. Also none of the fidonet stuff requires any version of python that I am aware of. I have seen at least one BBS that is python based but haven't heard about it in around a decade now.

What do you use python for?

Life is good,
Maurice

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Hello Maurice!

21 May 2023 16:21, Maurice Kinal wrote to Benny Pedersen:

Hey Benny!

i will wait until 4k*4 got standard

16k? Given the cost of an 8k I seriously doubt it will be worth it no matter how many stars it can render. Besides you'll be no closer than you are with 4k given the 'infinite' number of them in comparison.

if its solar powered its not so expendsive in long run, but it can be when to bay it surre

i just currently fiddle with python versions, now 3.11 is std,
and all old versions dependice need to go

So far all I have that requires python2 is seamonkey.

pyhon plugins in ?

Everything else
has either been abandoned or hacked where needed, although at the
moment I can only think of one app that requires messing with the
version (gpsd) and I don't actually use it that much, mostly testing ideas.

ideas is okay, just like Dolly Parton thinks about portatoes :)

I can live without it.

+1

:r !python --version
Python 2.7.18

:r !python3 --version
Python 3.11.3

As far as I am personally concerned, I see no need for either.

and you develop ?

Near as I can tell it's a hacking tool for Windows types.

windows is a precompiled problem that do not need python :)

Also none of the
fidonet stuff requires any version of python that I am aware of.

there is good tools donw in python for fidonet, but some of them dies when python versions is upgraded, this force python to not be upgraded to keep it running, sadly this is where i am.... gentoo

I
have seen at least one BBS that is python based but haven't heard
about it in around a decade now.

i had a partly fidobbs with nearly all i sql, beginned make php code to the sql, after the developper got it from my UMS amiga system he admit linux could not handle it, basicly thunderbird for everyting, including fidonet :)

What do you use python for?

all, gentoo needs python, there is no gentoo without python

its a mess for me right now


Regards Benny

... too late to die young :)

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Hey Benny!

if its solar powered its not so expendsive in long run, but it
can be when to bay it surre

No solar power here at the moment. Far too expensive given the amount of electricity needed. A publically owed and run electical grid is still the best option.

BP> pyhon plugins in ?

Probably them too if you allow it to. At the moment I have no python2 plugins and only a few python3 ones as required by whatever needs them. So far I have kept it to the absolute mimimum.

ideas is okay, just like Dolly Parton thinks about portatoes :)

I have no idea what Dolly Parton thinks about anything.

and you develop ?

Not so much these days. What I do I do because I want to and python isn't a requirement of anything I've done in the past. The only reason I have it now is simply because of gui browsers such as firefox and seamonnkey. Myself I use links in text mode when surfing.

windows is a precompiled problem that do not need python :)

Heh, heh.

there is good tools donw in python for fidonet,

Such as? The only one(s) I've noticed was an app for offine messaging and I think it was android based.

but some of them dies when python versions is upgraded, this
force python to not be upgraded to keep it running, sadly this is
where i am.... gentoo

That is the best reason for avoiding it in the first place. Mind you one could say the same thing about ALL development including gcc based.

For my part the basic rule of thumb is to keep everything that is important lean and mean. Browsers - and other web types - don't usually get much attention one way or the other and thus python is still an option with me personally. Like I've said, I can live without it as well as the many penguins currently running in this location. I seriously doubt many can make the same claim.

Life is good,
Maurice

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Hey Maurice!

I can live without it as well as the many penguins currently
running in this location.

That doesn't sound quite right. What was meant was that none of the penguins here - including the four below - require python anymore than I do, no matter what version of python we're talking about.

For the record, no python2 on this machine but there is python3 for some strange reason. I forget why now but I think I had a reason at one time. I am guessing gpsd although I haven't used that in quite some time now (years). I can delete it without any impact on the day-to-day stuff such as bash.

Life is good,
Maurice

-o o- o- -o
(\ /) /) (\
^^ ^^ ^^ ^^
... Eorþan indryhto ealdað ond searað, swa nu monna gehwylc.
The glory of earth ages and grows sere, as now every man does.
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