For a while I am trying to find the perfect (= cheapest) way to host fidonet (not cosidering BBS, just mailer, tosser, editor and maybe fileecho gadget).
OK, Linux then - and hosted (VPS).
(can read Echo via putty, mainly via ConnectBot)
Ended with Golded, Crashmail, Binkd (and Htick).
VPS: very depens if online presence is needed or - just time to time
run VPS and process messages. To me offline is enough (thank to my uplink).
Offline: I found KVM hosted VPS
for 0.50 EUR/month.
Currently playing with Microsoft Azure Cloud (looks 0,25EUR/month).
Online: for 1 year there is for free B1S VM (plus free 64GB HDD) -
also on Microsoft Azure Subscription (= 0 EUR/month for a while)
Did somebody similar research? (any recommendation?)
For a while I am trying to find the perfect (= cheapest) way to host fidonet (not cosidering BBS, just mailer, tosser, editor
(do not have modem anyway)
VPS: very depens if online presence is needed or - just time to time
run VPS and process messages. To me offline is enough (thank to my uplink).
Offline: I found KVM hosted VPS for 0.50 EUR/month. Currently playing
with Microsoft Azure Cloud (looks 0,25EUR/month).
(any recommendation?)
(do not have modem anyway)Wow. No DSL-Modem? No Cablemodem?
Offline: I found KVM hosted VPS for 0.50 EUR/month. CurrentlyIf it's cheap you are the product. Why don't you get a raspberry
playing with Microsoft Azure Cloud (looks 0,25EUR/month).
pi and setup your point on that?
Should work with raspian or FreeBSD.
You keep control over your system and data.
If it's cheap you are the product. Why don't you get a raspberry
pi and setup your point on that?
RPi is approx. 60 EUR - that would be quite enough to run a 1
EUR/month VM (either VPS or even VDS) for 5 years.
Should work with raspian or FreeBSD.
Neither of these could be used for a sensitive system.
Ended with Golded, Crashmail, Binkd (and Htick).Drop out crashmail, use HPT instead.
for 0.50 EUR/month.Good price. Where?
When you see the word "cloud", be careful: those people want to fool
you.
You pay with your data then.
Generally, any < 1 EUR/month VM would be more than enough for a
Fidonet node (and, if necessary, some additional functions).
Wow. No DSL-Modem? No Cablemodem? But with hardwired IP connection why
do you need a cloud server??
Your node is listed with the CM flag, indicating crashmail
capabilities and accepting mail 24h a day. See nodelist:
Running that node offline is annoying behavior. The minimum
If it's cheap you are the product. Why don't you get a raspberry pi
and setup your point on that? Should work with raspian or FreeBSD. You keep control over your system and data.
PS: sorry for offtopic. My intention was to ask in Linux area, if
somebody is hosting Linux version of Node/Fidopoint and where (focused
on cost).
PS: sorry for offtopic. My intention was to ask in Linux area, if
somebody is hosting Linux version of Node/Fidopoint and where (focused
on cost).
Ended with Golded, Crashmail, Binkd (and Htick).
Drop out crashmail, use HPT instead.I took htick from that project and it was nightmare. Dependency hell. (what to build first, then second, etc.) I will not do it again to
myself.
for 0.50 EUR/month.
Good price. Where?It was https://old.4smart.cz/ - but in Czech.
New registrations are stopped
Generally, any < 1 EUR/month VM would be more than enough for aBut where (else)?
Fidonet node (and, if necessary, some additional functions).
(do not have modem anyway)
Wow. No DSL-Modem? No Cablemodem?
No POTS-modem, I'd guess.
Should work with raspian or FreeBSD.
Neither of these could be used for a sensitive system.
Drop out crashmail, use HPT instead.
I took htick from that project and it was nightmare. Dependency hell. (what to build first, then second, etc.) I will not do it again to
myself.
You pay with your data then.
There is some free throughput as well.
Generally, any < 1 EUR/month VM would be more than enough for a
Fidonet node (and, if necessary, some additional functions).
But where (else)?
I ment Analog phone line. I have LTE modem, but very limited (at
home).
My question has nothing to do with existing Node
I know what node does mean.
Another device at home, poor Internet connection there, need to solve access from outside (from phone during travelling, etc.) This is why I thought about hosted system.
On 02-04-20 18:40, Karel Kral wrote to Kai Richter <=-
PS: sorry for offtopic. My intention was to ask in Linux area, if
somebody is hosting Linux version of Node/Fidopoint and where (focused
on cost).
Quite frankly, I feel a BBS would be a better fit for remote hosting
than a mail only/point setup, because BBSs are designed for remote
access, messagebase readers are designed for local access.
On 02-05-20 10:14, Richard Menedetter wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
???
Where is the difference between SSHing into a BBS or SSHing into a
linux account and start Golded (or the editor of your choice)?
(Minus that most BBSes offer less functionality then a specialized tool for that purpose (mailer, tosser, editor, etc.).)
My fido setup works like this for a very long time now.
I even use shell in a box to access my fido mails through my company firewall, that should block access to SSH ;)
BTW I did also not really understand what is so complicated in
compiling htick. It is part of Husky, so you need the husky libs.
But it is explained very well in the docs.
Just my 2 cents.
I prefer not to work across the network like that, because the way I
read messages makes latency a big issue.
I'm not familiar with shell in a box.It is basically a Shell inside the browser.
I've never tried to compile Husky/htick, so I can't comment on that
one.
On 02-05-20 12:39, Richard Menedetter wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
Hi Tony!
05 Feb 2020 21:17, from Tony Langdon -> Richard Menedetter:
I prefer not to work across the network like that, because the way I
read messages makes latency a big issue.
??? You really do notice some 10s of millisconds???
My virtual server is in another country (albeight a neighbouring one)
and I have less than 30 ms roundtrip there.
For me it feels instantaneous.
I'm not familiar with shell in a box.
It is basically a Shell inside the browser.
It uses HTTPS to tunnel the traffic to the server, and then accesses
SSH locally. (Hence it looks like normal HTTPS communication to any
proxy! ;) https://github.com/shellinabox/shellinabox
I've never tried to compile Husky/htick, so I can't comment on that
one.
Had nothing to do with our exchange.
Just did not want to write another mail for that topic, and state that
I did not have any issues with it´;)
03 Feb 20 10:06, Alexey Vissarionov wrote to Kai Richter:
If it's cheap you are the product. Why don't you get a raspberry
pi and setup your point on that?
RPi is approx. 60 EUR - that would be quite enough to run a 1 EUR/month VM (either VPS or even VDS) for 5 years.
The point here was that it's affordable enough... anything else is just "cheaper" with all the drawbacks that come with that.
Should work with raspian or FreeBSD.
Neither of these could be used for a sensitive system.
Who wants a sensitive system, anyway? I prefer robust (if not resilient) systems.
And then you also get the choice of offline mail, if you want. :)
And then you also get the choice of offline mail, if you want. :)
On 02-05-21 23:07, Phillip L Taylor Jr wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
On Wed 5-Feb-2020 14:13 , Tony Langdon@3:633/410.0 said to Karel Kral:
And then you also get the choice of offline mail, if you want. :)
SBBS is easy to setup and it will run under linux.
And then you also get the choice of offline mail, if you want. :)
SBBS is easy to setup and it will run under linux.
True, though why are you telling me? I'm already running it under Linux. :)
On 02-07-21 06:40, mark lewis wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
True, though why are you telling me? I'm already running it under Linux. :)
because after all these years, he still doesn't know how to find,
quote, and reply to the proper message... back in November, he hit me
with a message about buying windows and he wondered why i responded the way i did... he was actually trying to respond to a message from
someone else that was written *10 months* earlier...
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