On 2018-12-03, Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
On 03/12/2018 13.45, Kenny McCormack wrote:
In article <ep1edf-f59.ln1@Telcontar.valinor>,
Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
...
Sure, I have seen that in openSUSE. And if I typed the wrong password or >>>> tried to use the wrong command it would *insult* me. This is a
configuration which I disabled fast:
/etc/sudoers:
## Do not insult users when they enter an incorrect password.
Defaults !insults
And openSUSE years ago changed the default configuration file to not
insult, but the software default was to insult.
Just out of curiosity, what was the insult? What does it say?
I don't remember. That we would be reported to the administrator.
HOw is that an insult? It is (presumably/hopefully) a statement of fact.
On 03/12/2018 15.21, William Unruh wrote:
On 2018-12-03, Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
On 03/12/2018 13.45, Kenny McCormack wrote:
In article <ep1edf-f59.ln1@Telcontar.valinor>,
Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
...
Sure, I have seen that in openSUSE. And if I typed the wrong password or >>>>> tried to use the wrong command it would *insult* me. This is a
configuration which I disabled fast:
/etc/sudoers:
## Do not insult users when they enter an incorrect password.
Defaults !insults
And openSUSE years ago changed the default configuration file to not >>>>> insult, but the software default was to insult.
Just out of curiosity, what was the insult? What does it say?
I don't remember. That we would be reported to the administrator.
HOw is that an insult? It is (presumably/hopefully) a statement of fact.
Nononono. The gist of what it said was that, but the wording was with insults. And no, I don't remember them, I disabled them long ago - after
all I'm the administrator and what I do as user I want to give myself permission to do. I don't need to be insulted by software in my ownI assume that that is an example you made up rather than an actual
computer.
Example:
sudo apk-get update
[sudo] password for saket:
Are you on drugs?
No, I do not see the humour in that. I see it as kids having the root
power and making poor lowly users suffer when having to use a terminal,
just because the could do it and get away with it.
And to be practical, getting an insult instead of a message that I typed
the wrong password makes people waste time trying to figure out what happened.
You can see them here (google "sudo insults") - the last article has a
view at the sources:
<https://itsfoss.com/sudo-insult-linux/> ><https://www.tecmint.com/sudo-insult-when-enter-wrong-password/> ><https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/when-sudo-insults-you/> ><https://askubuntu.com/questions/837558/where-are-sudos-insults-stored>
On 2018-12-05, Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
On 03/12/2018 15.21, William Unruh wrote:
On 2018-12-03, Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
On 03/12/2018 13.45, Kenny McCormack wrote:
In article <ep1edf-f59.ln1@Telcontar.valinor>,
Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
...
Sure, I have seen that in openSUSE. And if I typed the wrong password or >>>>>> tried to use the wrong command it would *insult* me. This is a
configuration which I disabled fast:
/etc/sudoers:
## Do not insult users when they enter an incorrect password.
Defaults !insults
And openSUSE years ago changed the default configuration file to not >>>>>> insult, but the software default was to insult.
Just out of curiosity, what was the insult? What does it say?
I don't remember. That we would be reported to the administrator.
HOw is that an insult? It is (presumably/hopefully) a statement of fact.
Nononono. The gist of what it said was that, but the wording was with
insults. And no, I don't remember them, I disabled them long ago - after
Ah, OK. I agree that there is no need for that kind of behaviour.
all I'm the administrator and what I do as user I want to give myselfI assume that that is an example you made up rather than an actual
permission to do. I don't need to be insulted by software in my own
computer.
Example:
sudo apk-get update
[sudo] password for saket:
Are you on drugs?
quote.
but yes, there is no need for that.
Note that I have never seen this behaviour and the word "insult" does
not occur in my /etc/sudoers file (and I do not have a sudo.conf file)
so I seem to have been spared (Mageia 6)
.
On 05/12/2018 15.55, William Unruh wrote:
On 2018-12-05, Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
On 03/12/2018 15.21, William Unruh wrote:
On 2018-12-03, Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:Nononono. The gist of what it said was that, but the wording was with
On 03/12/2018 13.45, Kenny McCormack wrote:
In article <ep1edf-f59.ln1@Telcontar.valinor>,
Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
...
Sure, I have seen that in openSUSE. And if I typed the wrong password or
tried to use the wrong command it would *insult* me. This is a
configuration which I disabled fast:
/etc/sudoers:
## Do not insult users when they enter an incorrect password.
Defaults !insults
And openSUSE years ago changed the default configuration file to not >>>>>>> insult, but the software default was to insult.
Just out of curiosity, what was the insult? What does it say?
I don't remember. That we would be reported to the administrator.
HOw is that an insult? It is (presumably/hopefully) a statement of fact. >>>
insults. And no, I don't remember them, I disabled them long ago - after
Ah, OK. I agree that there is no need for that kind of behaviour.
all I'm the administrator and what I do as user I want to give myselfI assume that that is an example you made up rather than an actual
permission to do. I don't need to be insulted by software in my own
computer.
Example:
sudo apk-get update
[sudo] password for saket:
Are you on drugs?
quote.
but yes, there is no need for that.
An actual quote, hand typed by me from a photo in one of the links I
posted. I omitted the shell prompts for brevity.
Note that I have never seen this behaviour and the word "insult" does
not occur in my /etc/sudoers file (and I do not have a sudo.conf file)
so I seem to have been spared (Mageia 6)
.
Maybe your distro maintainer disabled it in the source.
No, I do not see the humour in that. I see it as kids having the root
power and making poor lowly users suffer when having to use a terminal,
just because the could do it and get away with it.
And to be practical, getting an insult instead of a message that I typed
the wrong password makes people waste time trying to figure out what happened.
You can see them here (google "sudo insults") - the last article has a
view at the sources:
<https://itsfoss.com/sudo-insult-linux/> <https://www.tecmint.com/sudo-insult-when-enter-wrong-password/> <https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/when-sudo-insults-you/> <https://askubuntu.com/questions/837558/where-are-sudos-insults-stored>
Carlos writes:
No, I do not see the humour in that. I see it as kids having the root
power and making poor lowly users suffer when having to use a terminal,
just because the could do it and get away with it.
And to be practical, getting an insult instead of a message that I typed
the wrong password makes people waste time trying to figure out what
happened.
You can see them here (google "sudo insults") - the last article has a
view at the sources:
<https://itsfoss.com/sudo-insult-linux/>
<https://www.tecmint.com/sudo-insult-when-enter-wrong-password/>
<https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/when-sudo-insults-you/>
<https://askubuntu.com/questions/837558/where-are-sudos-insults-stored>
I thought we were talking about the standard "This incident will be
reported" message. That's just a joke option that should be (and in
Debian is) disabled by default so that people with a certain sense of
humor can enable it for, as they would say, "shits and grins". Nothing
to see here.
No, it is way more disgusting than that
No, it is way more *disgusting* than that
In article <kafmdf-6bi.ln1@Telcontar.valinor>,
Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
...
No, it is way more *disgusting* than that
A bit hyperbolic, wouldn't you say?
Anyway, nowadays, the accepted buzzword is "disgraceful" (*).
(*) The Orange One's favorite word these days.
I do not see the humour or joke of my own computer insulting me.
Humour is not that international or universal.True.
On 2018-12-06 at 13:35, Carlos E.R. wrote:
I do not see the humour or joke of my own computer insulting me.
I do. I like it it has a chance to hit back at me sometimes
because I probably insult it much worse and much much more often. ;-)
I've also been having 'fortune -o' in my .profile for years…
But, I'm not a native English speaker either so I might be
confusing 'insulting' with 'offending' here. :-) And it's
my choice, not my admins'.
Humour is not that international or universal.True.
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