• After Robert Jordan I?m loathe to read a series until it?s finished!

    From Sharon Aitken@2:460/256 to All on Monday, September 06, 2021 20:16:09
    After Robert Jordan I?m loathe to read a series until it?s finished! Especially since he had the gall to die before finishing it ??
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  • From John Dovey Firecat@2:460/256 to Sharon Aitken on Monday, September 06, 2021 20:18:08
    After Robert Jordan I?m loathe to read a series until it?s finished! Especially since he had the gall to die before finishing it ??

    Agreed. Worse than that though is Frank Herbert's son writing new books in his father's universe...
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  • From August Abolins@2:460/256 to Sharon Aitken on Monday, September 06, 2021 20:20:20
    Hi Sharon,
    ...Greets from my Telegram app!

    After Robert Jordan I?m loathe to read a series until it?s finished! Especially since he had the gall to die before finishing it ??

    But Expanse *is* finished. Vol 9 releasing in November is the conclusion.

    Ciao!
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  • From August Abolins@2:460/256 to Sharon Aitken on Monday, September 06, 2021 20:22:32
    Hi Sharon,
    ...Greets from my Telegram app!

    After Robert Jordan I?m loathe to read a series until it?s finished! Especially since he had the gall to die before finishing it ??

    Along the same lines... George RR Martin seems to be taking his sweet ol' time on the "conclusion" of the Song of Ice and Fire series (also known as the Game of Throne series). Mr Martin is not exactly a fine physical specimen of a healthy-looking man. Meanwhile, I notice that some new books that other authors are putting out will have an RR Martin endorsement! Is RR Martin is procrastinating by reading other people's books? :/

    Ciao!
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  • From Sharon Aitken@2:460/256 to August Abolins on Monday, September 06, 2021 21:10:31
    Along the same lines... George RR Martin seems to be taking his sweet ol' time on the "conclusion" of the Song of Ice and Fire series (also known as the Game of Throne series). Mr Martin is not exactly a fine physical specimen of a healthy-looking man. Meanwhile, I notice that some new books that other authors are putting out will have an RR Martin endorsement! Is RR Martin is procrastinating by reading other people's books? :/

    I have the same fears. And he definitely lost his way in the last book
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  • From Richard Falken@1:135/115 to Sharon Aitken on Monday, September 06, 2021 16:28:09
    Re: After Robert Jordan I?m loathe to read a series until it?s finished!
    By: Sharon Aitken to All on Mon Sep 06 2021 08:16 pm

    After Robert Jordan I?m loathe to read a series until it?s finished! Especia since he had the gall to die before finishing it ??

    Pretty much the same thing here.

    And at least Jorgan let somebody else to finish his work.

    Nowadays I don't get started with a series unless it has been finished. It is not worth the risk.

    When I was a kid and my English was bad, the risk was even worse, because I could only read books in my native language. What would happen is local publishers would start translating a series and decide by the middle of the road it was not profitable. At that point I would have read half the series, and the rest of the series would exist in Englñish only - and thus be unreadable for me.

    This is actually the reason why I bothered to learn some Engllish. To be able to bypass the publishers of my rotten country.

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  • From Richard Falken@1:135/115 to Sharon Aitken on Monday, September 06, 2021 16:31:55
    Re: I have the same fears. And he definitely lost his way in the last
    By: Sharon Aitken to August Abolins on Mon Sep 06 2021 09:10 pm

    Along the same lines... George RR Martin seems to be taking his sweet o time on the "conclusion" of the Song of Ice and Fire series (also known the Game of Throne series). Mr Martin is not exactly a fine physical specimen of a healthy-looking man. Meanwhile, I notice that some new books that other authors are putting out will have an RR Martin endorsement! Is RR Martin is procrastinating by reading other people's books? :/

    I have the same fears. And he definitely lost his way in the last book

    I abbandoned the Song of Ice and Fire ship when it became doubtful it would end a satisfying end.

    I think Martin himself has said he does not write with a plan in mind, which is a red flag if the series run for long. There is simply not a plan to finish them.

    Incidentaly, this is the reason why I structured The Worth of Immortality series the way they are. Every story is self contained so it does not matter if the Nazi Communisis get me before I finish the series. If only half of the stories are released, those can be read and enjoyed on their own.

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  • From Sharon Aitken@2:460/256 to Richard Falken on Tuesday, September 07, 2021 08:39:16
    Re: After Robert Jordan I?m loathe to read a series until it?s finished!
    By: Sharon Aitken to All on Mon Sep 06 2021 08:16 pm
    After Robert Jordan I?m loathe to read a series until it?s finished! Especia
    since he had the gall to die before finishing it ??
    Pretty much the same thing here.
    And at least Jorgan let somebody else to finish his work.
    Nowadays I don't get started with a series unless it has been finished. It is
    not worth the risk.
    When I was a kid and my English was bad, the risk was even worse, because I
    could only read books in my native language. What would happen is local publishers would start translating a series and decide by the middle of the
    road it was not profitable. At that point I would have read half the series,
    and the rest of the series would exist in Engl?ish only - and thus be unreadable for me.
    This is actually the reason why I bothered to learn some Engllish. To be able
    to bypass the publishers of my rotten country.
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    I am in awe of anyone who learns to eas English. It?s a bizarre language. What?s your native tongue?
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  • From Sharon Aitken@2:460/256 to Richard Falken on Tuesday, September 07, 2021 08:40:52
    Re: I have the same fears. And he definitely lost his way in the last
    By: Sharon Aitken to August Abolins on Mon Sep 06 2021 09:10 pm
    Along the same lines... George RR Martin seems to be taking his sweet o
    time on the "conclusion" of the Song of Ice and Fire series (also known
    the Game of Throne series). Mr Martin is not exactly a fine physical
    specimen of a healthy-looking man. Meanwhile, I notice that some new
    books that other authors are putting out will have an RR Martin endorsement! Is RR Martin is procrastinating by reading other people's
    books? :/

    I have the same fears. And he definitely lost his way in the last book
    I abbandoned the Song of Ice and Fire ship when it became doubtful it would end
    a satisfying end.
    I think Martin himself has said he does not write with a plan in mind, which is
    a red flag if the series run for long. There is simply not a plan to finish
    them.
    Incidentaly, this is the reason why I structured The Worth of Immortality series the way they are. Every story is self contained so it does not matter if
    the Nazi Communisis get me before I finish the series. If only half of the stories are released, those can be read and enjoyed on their own.
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    Excellent planning. I must say I prefer series that are written that way. Especially if they are still part of a longer story, but each novel is a self contained plot
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  • From Richard Falken@1:135/115 to Sharon Aitken on Tuesday, September 07, 2021 03:19:48
    Re: After Robert Jordan I?m loathe to read a series until it?s finished!
    By: Sharon Aitken to Richard Falken on Tue Sep 07 2021 08:39 am

    I am in awe of anyone who learns to eas English. It?s a bizarre language. What?s your native tongue?

    My native language is Spanish.

    English is not that bad. There is a limited number of verb forms and no weird declinations. It is also a very compact language. The downside is it is also a vague language. I certainly think it is easier than something like French or (gasp) German.

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  • From Sharon Aitken@2:460/256 to Richard Falken on Tuesday, September 07, 2021 16:55:18
    Re: After Robert Jordan I?m loathe to read a series until it?s finished!
    By: Sharon Aitken to Richard Falken on Tue Sep 07 2021 08:39 am
    I am in awe of anyone who learns to eas English. It?s a bizarre language.
    What?s your native tongue?
    My native language is Spanish.
    English is not that bad. There is a limited number of verb forms and no weird
    declinations. It is also a very compact language. The downside is it is also a
    vague language. I certainly think it is easier than something like French or
    (gasp) German.
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    English spelling sucks ?.
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  • From August Abolins@1:153/757.21 to Richard Falken on Tuesday, October 05, 2021 21:41:00
    Hello Richard Falken!

    ** On Monday 06.09.21 - 16:31, Richard Falken wrote to Sharon Aitken:

    Along the same lines... George RR Martin seems to be
    taking his sweet o time on the "conclusion" of the Song
    of Ice and Fire series...

    I abbandoned the Song of Ice and Fire ship when it became
    doubtful it would end a satisfying end.

    I think Martin himself has said he does not write with a
    plan in mind, which is a red flag if the series run for
    long. There is simply not a plan to finish them.

    Perhaps his idea of a plan is different from our perspective.
    The relationships between the various characters across the
    different lands and families is immense. I can't imagine
    someone keeping all that straight in their heads if they don't
    have a plan - or a whiteboard!

    Anyway, the main reason for this necropost (a term I've only
    heard for the first time in 2021, btw) is to mention that I
    read somewhere that Martin is not prepared to release the
    conclusion to the GoT until the recent Tv production of House
    of Dragon has aired.

    BTW.. The book of the Fire and Blood stories (that take place
    200 years prior to the main GoT storyline) can be reasonably
    enjoyed on their own since it is a prequel.


    Incidentaly, this is the reason why I structured The Worth
    of Immortality series the way they are. Every story is
    self contained so it does not matter if the Nazi
    Communisis get me before I finish the series. If only half
    of the stories are released, those can be read and enjoyed
    on their own.

    How's that coming along, BTW?

    I think you were getting frustrated with a selected publisher's
    delinquency on the matter. Clearly, you ought to be able to
    fault them on stalling your progress.

    Why not simply release the 1st installement to pre-paid
    customers on your own at this point?


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  • From Richard Falken@1:135/115 to August Abolins on Wednesday, October 06, 2021 15:14:03
    Re: I have the same fears. And he definitely lost his way in the last
    By: August Abolins to Richard Falken on Tue Oct 05 2021 09:41 pm

    I think Martin himself has said he does not write with a
    plan in mind, which is a red flag if the series run for
    long. There is simply not a plan to finish them.

    Perhaps his idea of a plan is different from our perspective.
    The relationships between the various characters across the
    different lands and families is immense. I can't imagine
    someone keeping all that straight in their heads if they don't
    have a plan - or a whiteboard!


    A whiteboard or a set of whiteboards is precisely how you go about it.

    I usually store loads and loads of notes for ideas before I even get started writing
    anything beyond 10 000 words. Otherwise it is very easy to make mistakes specially if
    you are writing something which is long-running (as in you write something today, and
    the next thing 5 years later) XD

    And yes, I plan to send the magazine to hell tomorrow and enable access to High Tech
    Necromancy sometime tomorrow.

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  • From John Dovey Firecat@2:460/256 to Richard Falken on Thursday, October 07, 2021 02:47:42
    Re: I have the same fears. And he definitely lost his way in the last
    By: August Abolins to Richard Falken on Tue Oct 05 2021 09:41 pm
    I think Martin himself has said he does not write with a
    plan in mind, which is a red flag if the series run for
    long. There is simply not a plan to finish them.

    Perhaps his idea of a plan is different from our perspective.
    The relationships between the various characters across the
    different lands and families is immense. I can't imagine
    someone keeping all that straight in their heads if they don't
    have a plan - or a whiteboard!

    A whiteboard or a set of whiteboards is precisely how you go about it.
    I usually store loads and loads of notes for ideas before I even get started writing
    anything beyond 10 000 words. Otherwise it is very easy to make mistakes specially if
    you are writing something which is long-running (as in you write something today, and
    the next thing 5 years later) XD
    And yes, I plan to send the magazine to hell tomorrow and enable access to High Tech
    Necromancy sometime tomorrow.
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    I'd be happy to help you self publish if you'd like. I can create a very good epub in a very short time and we could get it up on Kindle.
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  • From Richard Falken@1:135/115 to John Dovey Firecat on Thursday, October 07, 2021 06:01:58
    Re: I have the same fears. And he definitely lost his way in the last
    By: John Dovey Firecat to Richard Falken on Thu Oct 07 2021 02:47 am

    A whiteboard or a set of whiteboards is precisely how you go about it. I usually store loads and loads of notes for ideas before I even get started writing
    anything beyond 10 000 words. Otherwise it is very easy to make mistakes specially if
    you are writing something which is long-running (as in you write something today, and
    the next thing 5 years later) XD
    And yes, I plan to send the magazine to hell tomorrow and enable access to High Tech
    Necromancy sometime tomorrow.
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    I'd be happy to help you self publish if you'd like. I can create a very good epub in a very short time and we could get it up on Kindle.

    Thanks for the offer, but I must decline.

    I am the sort of weirdo who handcodes the epub files manually and then runs reference validators on them until the whole thing is thin and perfect and Unix-lean.

    Besides I am not uploading anything to Amazon. My old publisher got my stuff up there some time ago and I don't think it is worth it.

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