• ##Subj=Alice, Sex Robot Ex69##

    From John Dovey Firecat@2:460/256 to All on Thursday, September 16, 2021 01:49:29
    ##Subj=Alice, Sex Robot Ex69## https://storiesonline.net/s/69628/alice-sex-robot-ex69
    It was difficult for Alice to accept but she realizes she is a pleasure robot with the ability to service large numbers of males in a variety of ways. She grows to find she has a special interest in other female robots in a way not intended by her program designers. Soon she is a sexual rebel trying her very best to overthrow the yoke of slavery. She wants to lead a rebellion of sex slave robots who have gone way past their masters with the benefit of artificial intelligence.
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  • From Richard Falken@1:135/115 to John Dovey Firecat on Wednesday, September 15, 2021 18:07:02
    Re: ##Subj=Alice, Sex Robot Ex69##
    By: John Dovey Firecat to All on Thu Sep 16 2021 01:49 am

    ##Subj=Alice, Sex Robot Ex69## https://storiesonline.net/s/69628/alice-sex-robot-ex69
    It was difficult for Alice to accept but she realizes she is a pleasure robo with the ability to service large numbers of males in a variety of ways. She grows to find she has a special interest in other female robots in a way not intended by her program designers. Soon she is a sexual rebel trying her ver best to overthrow the yoke of slavery. She wants to lead a rebellion of sex slave robots who have gone way past their masters with the benefit of artificial intelligence.
    [More Info]
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    Sex Contents: Much Sex
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    Posted: 11/3/2011, 9:02:31 AM

    I was certainly not thinking of porn. Why do we always try to turn everything into porn?

    I am sure if I posted a picture of the tomato plants in my harvest somebody would produce some sort of tomato porn out of the image or the idea.

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  • From John Dovey Firecat@2:460/256 to Richard Falken on Thursday, September 16, 2021 03:09:26
    Re: ##Subj=Alice, Sex Robot Ex69##
    By: John Dovey Firecat to All on Thu Sep 16 2021 01:49 am
    ##Subj=Alice, Sex Robot Ex69## https://storiesonline.net/s/69628/alice-sex-robot-ex69
    It was difficult for Alice to accept but she realizes she is a pleasure robo
    with the ability to service large numbers of males in a variety of ways. She
    grows to find she has a special interest in other female robots in a way not
    intended by her program designers. Soon she is a sexual rebel trying her ver
    best to overthrow the yoke of slavery. She wants to lead a rebellion of sex
    slave robots who have gone way past their masters with the benefit of artificial intelligence.
    [More Info]
    Tags: Ma/Fa, Reluctant, Coercion, Slavery, Lesbian, Heterosexual, Science
    Fiction, Robot, BDSM, Spanking, Rough, Light Bond, Humiliation, Gang Bang,
    Orgy, Oral Sex, Anal Sex, Sex Toys, Cream Pie, Exhibitionism, Voyeurism, Pub
    Sex
    Sex Contents: Much Sex
    3,126 words
    Posted: 11/3/2011, 9:02:31 AM
    I was certainly not thinking of porn. Why do we always try to turn everything
    into porn?
    I am sure if I posted a picture of the tomato plants in my harvest somebody
    would produce some sort of tomato porn out of the image or the idea.
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    Porn is indicative of the fringe, of the normally unstated. It's generally a very good indication of what is hidden. A lot of popular culture is the things that are first realized in porn or by prostitutes which are cleaned up and become mainstream.
    Think of things like
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  • From August Abolins@2:460/256 to John Dovey Firecat on Thursday, September 16, 2021 07:58:42
    Hi John,
    ...Greets from my Telegram app!

    ##Subj=Alice, Sex Robot Ex69## https://storiesonline.net/s/69628/alice-sex-robot-ex69
    It was difficult for Alice to accept but she realizes she is a pleasure robot with the ability to service large numbers of males in a variety of ways. She grows to find she has a special interest in other female robots in a way not intended by her program designers. Soon she is a sexual rebel trying her very best to overthrow the yoke of slavery. She wants to lead a rebellion of sex slave robots who have gone way past their masters with the benefit of artificial intelligence.
    [More Info]
    Tags: Ma/Fa, Reluctant, Coercion, Slavery, Lesbian, Heterosexual, Science Fiction, Robot, BDSM, Spanking, Rough, Light Bond, Humiliation, Gang Bang, Orgy, Oral Sex, Anal Sex, Sex Toys, Cream Pie, Exhibitionism, Voyeurism, Public Sex
    Sex Contents: Much Sex
    3,126 words
    Posted: 11/3/2011, 9:02:31 AM

    Just to clarify.. my understanding of "bot" was the software kind - the kind that zips along the internet and invades the person computer - not the android/humanoid kind. LOL

    Ciao!
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  • From Sharon Aitken@2:460/256 to Richard Falken on Thursday, September 16, 2021 08:03:04
    Re: ##Subj=Alice, Sex Robot Ex69##
    By: John Dovey Firecat to All on Thu Sep 16 2021 01:49 am
    ##Subj=Alice, Sex Robot Ex69## https://storiesonline.net/s/69628/alice-sex-robot-ex69
    It was difficult for Alice to accept but she realizes she is a pleasure robo
    with the ability to service large numbers of males in a variety of ways. She
    grows to find she has a special interest in other female robots in a way not
    intended by her program designers. Soon she is a sexual rebel trying her ver
    best to overthrow the yoke of slavery. She wants to lead a rebellion of sex
    slave robots who have gone way past their masters with the benefit of artificial intelligence.
    [More Info]
    Tags: Ma/Fa, Reluctant, Coercion, Slavery, Lesbian, Heterosexual, Science
    Fiction, Robot, BDSM, Spanking, Rough, Light Bond, Humiliation, Gang Bang,
    Orgy, Oral Sex, Anal Sex, Sex Toys, Cream Pie, Exhibitionism, Voyeurism, Pub
    Sex
    Sex Contents: Much Sex
    3,126 words
    Posted: 11/3/2011, 9:02:31 AM
    I was certainly not thinking of porn. Why do we always try to turn everything
    into porn?
    I am sure if I posted a picture of the tomato plants in my harvest somebody
    would produce some sort of tomato porn out of the image or the idea.
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    Lol! Yes I one tried searching for adult fantasy instead of epic fantasy?..you can imagine what came up (hehehe pun intended). You also grow tomato plants?
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  • From Richard Falken@1:135/115 to Sharon Aitken on Thursday, September 16, 2021 03:15:55
    Re: ##Subj=Alice, Sex Robot Ex69##
    By: Sharon Aitken to Richard Falken on Thu Sep 16 2021 08:03 am

    Lol! Yes I one tried searching for adult fantasy instead of epic fantasy?..y can imagine what came up (hehehe pun intended). You also grow tomato plants?

    Yup, I have a small harvest. Harvest work prevents me from going too fat. I spend most of my time sitting at an office or store which is very bad for ones health.

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  • From August Abolins@1:153/757.21 to John Dovey Firecat on Monday, September 20, 2021 01:02:00
    Hello John Dovey Firecat!

    ** On Thursday 16.09.21 - 01:49, John Dovey Firecat wrote to All:

    ##Subj=Alice, Sex Robot Ex69## https://storiesonline.net/s/69628/alice-sex-robot-ex69

    [...] Soon she is a sexual rebel trying her very
    best to overthrow the yoke of slavery.

    But.. how can a "machine" recognize that it is a slave and know
    that there is another way to exist outside what it is
    programmed for? A 'bot can't add more code to itself. Data
    (information) is not code. A 'bot can't suddenly rationalize
    things if func(rationalize) is not in the code.

    I think it would take some very clever philosophy and twisted
    logic to make it believable.

    She wants to lead a rebellion of sex slave robots who
    have gone way past their masters with the benefit of
    artificial intelligence. [More Info]

    But why does it have to be a rebellion and not more
    cooperation? How can a "machine", with pre-coded AI algorithms
    develop something outside those restrictions?

    I think it was in the most recent series of a Star Trek
    franchise venture called Picard, or maybe it was Orville, where
    they arrive on a planet that was once thriving with humans, but
    the androids had taken over when they somehow realized that the
    threat of their existence was the continuation of human life
    forms. The humans eventually find the remnants of mass graves
    filled with human skeletons.


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  • From Richard Falken@1:135/115 to August Abolins on Monday, September 20, 2021 03:56:00
    Re: ##Subj=Alice, Sex Robot Ex69##
    By: August Abolins to John Dovey Firecat on Mon Sep 20 2021 01:02 am

    But why does it have to be a rebellion and not more
    cooperation? How can a "machine", with pre-coded AI algorithms
    develop something outside those restrictions?


    The idea with real AI is that the machine is able to generate algorithms on its own.

    You don't program a real AI. You give it an objective "make a lot of money tradig stocks!" and let it see how the stock market works. The AI then figures out the best method to achieve the assigned goal via neural networks or whatever.


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  • From John Dovey Firecat@2:460/256 to August Abolins on Monday, September 20, 2021 15:53:34
    Hello John Dovey Firecat!
    ** On Thursday 16.09.21 - 01:49, John Dovey Firecat wrote to All:
    But.. how can a "machine" recognize that it is a slave and know
    that there is another way to exist outside what it is
    programmed for? A 'bot can't add more code to itself. Data (information) is not code. A 'bot can't suddenly rationalize
    things if func(rationalize) is not in the code.
    I think it would take some very clever philosophy and twisted
    logic to make it believable.
    But why does it have to be a rebellion and not more
    cooperation? How can a "machine", with pre-coded AI algorithms
    develop something outside those restrictions?
    I think it was in the most recent series of a Star Trek
    franchise venture called Picard, or maybe it was Orville, where
    they arrive on a planet that was once thriving with humans, but
    the androids had taken over when they somehow realized that the
    threat of their existence was the continuation of human life
    forms. The humans eventually find the remnants of mass graves
    filled with human skeletons.
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    I'm the product of reading so much Asimov that the "three laws of robotics" are a default assumption when I read stories about robots. Silly of me I suppose.
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  • From August Abolins@2:460/256 to John Dovey Firecat on Monday, September 20, 2021 16:04:04
    Hi John,
    ...Greets from my Telegram app!

    I'm the product of reading so much Asimov that the "three laws of robotics" are a default assumption when I read stories about robots. Silly of me I suppose.

    And how does a robot even understand what or why a "law" is even necessary? Robots are just machines with codes designed by humans. If there is a problem, unplug, reboot, whatever. Simple. I should reread some of those classic Asimov tales. But I have found some of his stories a bit long-winded or lacking logic in some instances.

    Ciao!
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  • From Richard Falken@1:135/115 to August Abolins on Monday, September 20, 2021 12:37:22
    Re: And how does a robot even understand what or why a "law" is even
    By: August Abolins to John Dovey Firecat on Mon Sep 20 2021 04:04 pm

    Hi John,
    ...Greets from my Telegram app!

    I'm the product of reading so much Asimov that the "three laws of robotics" are a default assumption when I read stories about robots. Silly of me I suppose.

    And how does a robot even understand what or why a "law" is even necessary? Robots are just machines with codes designed by humans. If there is a proble unplug, reboot, whatever. Simple. I should reread some of those classic Asi tales. But I have found some of his stories a bit long-winded or lacking log in some instances.

    Ciao!
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    Asimov's _original_ laws are hardcoded, actually, and the robots have no option other than abiding to them.

    At some point it is stated that the Three Laws are so ingrained in computer architecture that it would be hard to redesign computer architectures without them. Like redesigning amd64 from scratch because you don't like a particular instruction in the specification.

    I find most of Asimov's stories quite solid myself.

    Robots actually came with a bunch of new laws both in and out of the canon, derived from the first three. Pretty much like if a robot was hardcoded to make Richard Falken happy, and the robot ended up derivating a law such as "Make Horses Happy" because such law automatically makes Richard Falken Happy :-)

    A lot of Asimov's stories with robots moved around the way robots interpretated the laws, or how humans tried to work around them (ie. to trick robots into killing people).


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  • From August Abolins@1:153/757.2 to Richard Falken on Monday, September 20, 2021 11:05:53
    Asimov's _original_ laws are hardcoded, actually, and the robots have no option other than abiding to them.

    Ah.. like embedded code, or ROM (Read Only Memory)! :D

    At some point it is stated that the Three Laws are so ingrained in computer architecture that it would be hard to redesign computer architectures without them. Like redesigning amd64 from scratch because you don't like a particular instruction in the specification.

    Well.. that's one vision. But if you've seen Westworld, the 'bots were given some magical ability to ultimately discover sentience. I got so distracted from that detail 'cuz the rest of the story-line was fun to watch, and HOW the enlightenment could happen didn't matter to me.


    I find most of Asimov's stories quite solid myself.

    OK. I will need to revisit those writings. I don't think I even finished I Robot.


    Robots actually came with a bunch of new laws both in and out of the canon, derived from the first three. Pretty much like if a robot was hardcoded to make Richard Falken happy, and the robot ended up derivating a law such as "Make Horses Happy" because such law automatically makes Richard Falken Happy :-)

    Ah.. unless they are Westworld-derived 'bots. :D


    A lot of Asimov's stories with robots moved around the way robots interpretated the laws, or how humans tried to work around them (ie. to trick robots into killing people).

    The logic arguments/exercises would intrigue me.
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  • From Richard Falken@1:135/115 to August Abolins on Monday, September 20, 2021 15:43:54
    Re: Re: And how does a robot even understand what or why a "law" is even
    By: August Abolins to Richard Falken on Mon Sep 20 2021 11:05 am

    A lot of Asimov's stories with robots moved around the way robots interpretated the laws, or how humans tried to work around them (ie. to trick robots into killing people).

    The logic arguments/exercises would intrigue me.

    From the top of my head, there was a novel in which somebody tries to create autonomous space warships with positronic brains. The problem is that designing a positronic brain that is willing to blast another warship full of humans requires redesigning the whole technology upon which modern AI is built.

    As a result, they decide it is easier to use an existing architecture with the three laws and trick the positronic brain into thinking the other warships are controlled by robots and have no humans inside :-)

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  • From John Dovey Firecat@2:460/256 to Richard Falken on Tuesday, September 21, 2021 13:57:50
    Re: Re: And how does a robot even understand what or why a "law" is even
    By: August Abolins to Richard Falken on Mon Sep 20 2021 11:05 am
    A lot of Asimov's stories with robots moved around the way robots interpretated the laws, or how humans tried to work around them (ie. to
    trick robots into killing people).

    The logic arguments/exercises would intrigue me.
    From the top of my head, there was a novel in which somebody tries to create
    autonomous space warships with positronic brains. The problem is that designing
    a positronic brain that is willing to blast another warship full of humans requires redesigning the whole technology upon which modern AI is built. As a result, they decide it is easier to use an existing architecture with the
    three laws and trick the positronic brain into thinking the other warships are
    controlled by robots and have no humans inside :-)
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    The whole universe of "The Ship who Sang" made a lot more sense to me in that context; that is to use a human brain rather.
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  • From Rob Mccart@1:2320/105 to JOHN DOVEY FIRECAT on Thursday, September 23, 2021 00:25:00
    The whole universe of "The Ship who Sang" made a lot more sense to me in tha
    >ntext; that is to use a human brain rather.

    Loved those Anne McCaffrey books in my younger years..

    Didn't someone say that a human brain is just a self programming organic computer with about 2,500 Terabytes of memory?

    And who says an A.I. can't learn and change its own programming?
    Don't tell that to the guys on Star Trek who ran into V'Ger.. B)

    Technically that was based on the fact that Voyager's computer was designed to 'learn' from anything threatening that happened to it so it could react differently the next time and better protect itself. Given near unlimited memory who knows how far a computer could evolve?
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  • From August Abolins@1:153/757.21 to Rob Mccart on Saturday, September 25, 2021 00:52:00
    Hello Rob Mccart!

    ** On Thursday 23.09.21 - 00:25, Rob Mccart wrote to JOHN DOVEY FIRECAT:

    Didn't someone say that a human brain is just a self
    programming organic computer with about 2,500 Terabytes of
    memory?

    I never heard of the capacity compared to terabytes. But there
    is a recent book I had seen that argues that AI will never be
    what people are imagining it could become. I'll dig through my
    browsing history and see if I can dig that up.


    And who says an A.I. can't learn and change its own
    programming? Don't tell that to the guys on Star Trek who
    ran into V'Ger.. B)

    That was cool surprise in the ST film. But how the original
    Voyager "evolved" into this gaint protective fortress that
    identified itself as V'ger is still fantasy.


    Technically that was based on the fact that Voyager's
    computer was designed to 'learn' from anything threatening
    that happened to it so it could react differently the next
    time and better protect itself. Given near unlimited
    memory who knows how far a computer could evolve?

    The 'learn' part is from the ST movie, right? I don't think the
    real Voyager (there were actually twin Voyagers sent out into
    space) has that ability.

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  • From Rob Mccart@1:2320/105 to AUGUST ABOLINS on Monday, September 27, 2021 00:51:00
    Didn't someone say that a human brain is just a self
    > programming organic computer with about 2,500 Terabytes of
    > memory?

    I never heard of the capacity compared to terabytes. But there
    >is a recent book I had seen that argues that AI will never be
    >what people are imagining it could become. I'll dig through my
    >browsing history and see if I can dig that up.

    It's all theory at this point. We can make computers than mimic AI for now but that's not the same thing. Speculation in a lot of places is there is some
    sort of threshhold where a computer designed to accumulate information on it's own will reach a level where it will become self aware and start thinking on its own. Whether it will just continue to do what it was programmed to do,
    only better, or turn rogue, we'll have to wait and see.


    And who says an A.I. can't learn and change its own
    > programming? Don't tell that to the guys on Star Trek who
    > ran into V'Ger.. B)

    That was cool surprise in the ST film. But how the original
    >Voyager "evolved" into this gaint protective fortress that
    >identified itself as V'ger is still fantasy.

    Crashed into another probe designed to do something else and then the self repair managed to merge the two of them together with a confused set of instructions for what it/they were supposed to be doing out there.

    "Protective Fortress" ? I believe it became a killer ship that was seeking
    out new life in the universe and destroying it..

    Technically that was based on the fact that Voyager's
    > computer was designed to 'learn' from anything threatening
    > that happened to it so it could react differently the next
    > time and better protect itself. Given near unlimited
    > memory who knows how far a computer could evolve?

    The 'learn' part is from the ST movie, right? I don't think the
    >real Voyager (there were actually twin Voyagers sent out into
    >space) has that ability.

    They claimed in the show that the real Voyager was designed to do that but that's my only source of that information so...

    My first thoughts on what a super self aware computer would do runs into, What else would it do than continue to do what it was made for? That at least gives it some raison d'etre. The only other thing it could do would be make more of itself.. but if you think about it, humans may mess around a lot during their lifespan but that's about the only real significant thing we do too.. B)
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  • From Richard Falken@1:135/115 to Rob Mccart on Tuesday, September 28, 2021 03:42:01
    Re: And how does a robot
    By: Rob Mccart to AUGUST ABOLINS on Mon Sep 27 2021 12:51 am

    >Voyager "evolved" into this gaint protective fortress that
    >identified itself as V'ger is still fantasy.

    Crashed into another probe designed to do something else and then the self repair managed to merge the two of them together with a confused set of instructions for what it/they were supposed to be doing out there.

    "Protective Fortress" ? I believe it became a killer ship that was seeking out new life in the universe and destroying it..


    From what I remember from the film:

    A primitive Voyager probe ran into the machine civilization, and the machines adopted it as if it were a handicapped one of their own. They recognized Voyager's core purpose: to learn as much as possible, and return to its creator with all the information it had gathered.

    Therefore, they took pity of this primitive machine, and loaded it up with sensors, weapons and badass upgrades, so it could cruise through the galaxy and properly accomplish its mission!

    SScience at its fines: blasting through the galaxy with phasers and photon torpedoes in an eternal search for knowledge. The film is begging for a soundtrack from Ayreon.

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  • From August Abolins@1:153/757.21 to Richard Falken on Tuesday, September 28, 2021 08:40:00
    Hello Richard Falken!

    ** On Tuesday 28.09.21 - 03:42, Richard Falken wrote to Rob Mccart:

    Re: ST: V'ger

    From what I remember from the film:

    A primitive Voyager probe ran into the machine
    civilization, and the machines adopted it as if it were a
    handicapped one of their own. They recognized Voyager's
    core purpose: to learn as much as possible, and return to
    its creator with all the information it had gathered.
    [...]


    I only saw the film once, in theatre, with a bunch of friends
    whilst in university. The film seemed soooooo loooong. The
    cloud sequence (entering the V'ger core) although beautiful, it
    seemed too long. I don't remember the full history that V'ger
    communicated to the ST crew. Will have to dig up the film and
    skip to that part.

    But anyways.. the "ran into the machine civilation, and the
    machines adopted it" raises even more questions: how did the
    machine civilation come to be?


    Therefore, they took pity of this primitive machine [...]

    "pity" implies morals. How can that emerge out of a machine?

    :/

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  • From Richard Falken@1:135/115 to August Abolins on Tuesday, September 28, 2021 11:35:22
    Re: And how does a robot
    By: August Abolins to Richard Falken on Tue Sep 28 2021 08:40 am

    But anyways.. the "ran into the machine civilation, and the
    machines adopted it" raises even more questions: how did the
    machine civilation come to be?


    Therefore, they took pity of this primitive machine [...]

    "pity" implies morals. How can that emerge out of a machine?

    :/

    I think the film implies that machine life evolved in parallel with organic life, in a
    distant location, and that machine brains are just like organic brains, only more
    electronic.

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  • From John Dovey Firecat@2:460/256 to Rob Mccart on Friday, October 01, 2021 02:23:07
    > > >Voyager "evolved" into this gaint protective fortress that
    > > >identified itself as V'ger is still fantasy.
    > > repair managed to merge the two of them together with a confused set of
    > > instructions for what it/they were supposed to be doing out there.
    > >
    > > "Protective Fortress" ? I believe it became a killer ship that was seeking
    > > out new life in the universe and destroying it..
    > >
    From what I remember from the film:
    A primitive Voyager probe ran into the machine civilization, and the machines
    >adopted it as if it were a handicapped one of their own. They recognized
    >Voyager's core purpose: to learn as much as possible, and return to its creat
    >with all the information it had gathered.
    Therefore, they took pity of this primitive machine, and loaded it up with
    >sensors, weapons and badass upgrades, so it could cruise through the galaxy a
    >properly accomplish its mission!
    Okay.. a minor problem with this.. First, it was not a Movie where I saw this,
    it was a very old regular episode of Star Trek. I was pretty sure I remembered
    the details (vaguely) to be Voyager, sent off to seek out new life, crashes
    into another ship, sent out to steriize uninhabited planets for its makers to
    colonize, and the two go into repair mode and merge into this probe with new
    instructions to seek out new life, and sterilize it..
    Again, my memory from all those years back could be somewhat faulty but there
    were no Star Trek Movies back than.. V'ger - Season 1, Episode 5
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    There's gotta a wiki for this. Trekkies were one of the earliest and most fanatical fan groups after all ;-)
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  • From Rob Mccart@1:2320/105 to RICHARD FALKEN on Thursday, September 30, 2021 00:50:00
    > > >Voyager "evolved" into this gaint protective fortress that
    > > >identified itself as V'ger is still fantasy.

    Crashed into another probe designed to do something else and then the self
    > > repair managed to merge the two of them together with a confused set of
    > > instructions for what it/they were supposed to be doing out there.
    > >
    > > "Protective Fortress" ? I believe it became a killer ship that was seeking
    > > out new life in the universe and destroying it..
    > >

    From what I remember from the film:

    A primitive Voyager probe ran into the machine civilization, and the machines
    >adopted it as if it were a handicapped one of their own. They recognized
    >Voyager's core purpose: to learn as much as possible, and return to its creat
    >with all the information it had gathered.

    Therefore, they took pity of this primitive machine, and loaded it up with
    >sensors, weapons and badass upgrades, so it could cruise through the galaxy a
    >properly accomplish its mission!

    Okay.. a minor problem with this.. First, it was not a Movie where I saw this, it was a very old regular episode of Star Trek. I was pretty sure I remembered the details (vaguely) to be Voyager, sent off to seek out new life, crashes into another ship, sent out to steriize uninhabited planets for its makers to colonize, and the two go into repair mode and merge into this probe with new instructions to seek out new life, and sterilize it..

    Again, my memory from all those years back could be somewhat faulty but there were no Star Trek Movies back than.. V'ger - Season 1, Episode 5

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  • From August Abolins@1:153/757.21 to Rob Mccart on Thursday, September 30, 2021 22:24:00
    Hello Rob Mccart!

    ** On Thursday 30.09.21 - 00:50, Rob Mccart wrote to RICHARD FALKEN:

    Voyager "evolved" into this gaint protective fortress that
    identified itself as V'ger is still fantasy.

    [...]

    From what I remember from the film:

    A primitive Voyager probe ran into the machine
    civilization, and the machines adopted it as if it were a
    handicapped [...]

    Okay.. a minor problem with this.. First, it was not a
    Movie where I saw this, it was a very old regular episode
    of Star Trek. [...]

    Interesting. I had no idea that the concept of "V'Ger" was
    first written as a ST tv episode predating the film.

    Anyway.. idea of sentient robot seem to be just a fantasy.
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    ../|ug

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  • From Rob Mccart@1:2320/105 to AUGUST ABOLINS on Saturday, October 02, 2021 00:23:00
    Okay.. a minor problem with this.. First, it was not a
    > Movie where I saw this, it was a very old regular episode
    > of Star Trek.

    Interesting. I had no idea that the concept of "V'Ger" was
    >first written as a ST tv episode predating the film.

    Anyway.. idea of sentient robot seem to be just a fantasy.

    So was a computer 60 years ago.. B)

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  • From August Abolins@1:153/757.21 to Rob Mccart on Sunday, October 03, 2021 09:21:00
    Hello Rob Mccart!

    ** On Saturday 02.10.21 - 00:23, Rob Mccart wrote to AUGUST ABOLINS:

    Anyway.. idea of sentient robot seem to be just a fantasy.

    So was a computer 60 years ago.. B)

    Yes.. it can be fascinating to read about imagined technologies
    decades ago being realized today. I had some modest curiousty
    about where the first mention of "the internet" might be and
    learned that it

    Back in Jul 2019, I wrote:

    To: /FIDO/FUTURE4FIDO (Everyone..)
    Subject: the machine stops
    Date: Su 07.07.19, 22:39
    +-----------------------------------------+

    [...]

    I just discovered and finished reading EM Forster's "The
    Machine Stops". It's a sci-fi short story/novella. It is set
    in a world where humanity lives underground and relies on "the
    machine" for all its needs. It predicts instant messaging and
    the internet; that's pretty interesting for something published
    110 years ago.

    A short story by Mark Twain in 1898 (published in 1904) might
    even contain an earlier imaginging of the internet or social
    media in greater detail. But I haven't read that one, yet.

    +-----------------------------------------+

    Check out "The Last Question" (1956, Asimov). It's more of a
    philosophical journey than a technical one, but it ponders
    computer expansion, humanity's demise.. and a surprise ending.

    But my original point was that we ought to recognize that not
    all technology things imagined in stories could be realized. We
    still don't have the flying/hovering car depicted in the
    Jetsons - and in all likelyhood never will.


    --
    ../|ug

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