• Hiya! It?s a new genre for me. I generally read fantasy and sci fi

    From Sharon Aitken@2:460/256 to All on Thursday, August 05, 2021 15:54:31
    Hiya! It?s a new genre for me. I generally read fantasy and sci fi series. I like to get lost in a world. So I?m up for recommendations. I?ve read Enders Game which I think was an early version of this genre? And tad Williams Otherworld, but I don?t think that?s the style you guys are reading ?
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  • From John Dovey@2:460/256 to Sharon Aitken on Thursday, August 05, 2021 16:00:12
    Glad to see you, Sharon!

    Hiya! It?s a new genre for me. I generally read fantasy and sci fi series. I like to get lost in a world. So I?m up for recommendations. I?ve read Enders Game which I think was an early version of this genre? And tad Williams Otherworld, but I don?t think that?s the style you guys are reading ?
    ?Speaker for the Dead? is one of my all time favorite books. I liked the rest of the series of course, but none came close to the impact that made on me.
    I started this echo with LitRPG in mind, but nothing wrong with chatting about other sci-fi/fantasy.

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  • From Sharon Aitken@2:460/256 to John Dovey on Thursday, August 05, 2021 18:27:19
    ?Speaker for the Dead? is one of my all time favorite books. I liked the rest of the series of course, but none came close to the impact that made on me.I started this echo with LitRPG in mind, but nothing wrong with chatting about other sci-fi/fantasy.
    Speaker for the Dead was amazingly powerful
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  • From August Abolins@2:460/256 to John Dovey on Thursday, August 05, 2021 20:28:24
    Hi John,
    ...Greets from my Telegram app!

    ?Speaker for the Dead? is one of my all time favorite books. I liked the rest of the series of course, but none came close to the impact that made on me.
    I started this echo with LitRPG in mind, but nothing wrong with chatting about other sci-fi/fantasy.

    You could almost think of LitRPG to mean "Lit & RPG writing?" :-) Apart from general chat echos: CHAT, COFFEE_KLATSCH, there really isn't any book-specific echo.

    I really hope that the general art of reading complete books isn't lost among the computer-user demographic.

    PS: for general info..

    CHAT - FIDONET: A general chat/discussion group. https://t.me/joinchat/Suaubh6lB15XdkGt

    COFFEE_KLATSCH - FIDONET: A general discussion echo. https://t.me/joinchat/R-fzkUrjKxsKKTw7

    Ciao!
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  • From John Dovey@2:460/256 to August Abolins on Thursday, August 05, 2021 20:32:21
    Glad to see you, August!

    You could almost think of LitRPG to mean "Lit & RPG writing?" :-) Apart from general chat echos: CHAT, COFFEE_KLATSCH, there really isn't any book-specific echo.
    I really hope that the general art of reading complete books isn't lost among the computer-user demographic.
    PS: for general info..
    CHAT - FIDONET: A general chat/discussion group. https://t.me/joinchat/Suaubh6lB15XdkGt
    COFFEE_KLATSCH - FIDONET: A general discussion echo. https://t.me/joinchat/R-fzkUrjKxsKKTw7

    Yeah, after creating the echo I came to realize there was very little about books/stories etc. The only stuff really active is general sci fi and even that is basically dead.
    I was chatting to my middle daughter earlier, and she had a bit of an epiphany; when someone asked her why she only reads online stuff and not ?real books? she said ?they?re too short?. It?s true. If you look at ?Wandering Inn? it?s a bit of an outlier on the large side (what?s it, around 10 million words now) but your average small online serial sits at around 300k words which is what a printed series would be.

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  • From August Abolins@1:153/757.2 to John Dovey on Thursday, August 05, 2021 11:11:49
    I was chatting to my middle daughter earlier, and she had a bit of an epiphany; when someone asked her why she only reads online stuff and not ?real books? she said ?they?re too short?. It?s true.

    I don't think I've ever met someone only interested in tomes.

    She could always ask a knowledgeable librarian or bookseller for the mega versions.

    Just off the top of my head there's:

    - Midnight Sun, Meyer
    - Court of Silver Flames, Maas
    - Lord of the Rings trilogy, Tolkien
    - Stand/It, King
    - A Song of Ice & Fire series, Martin
    - Wheel of Time series, Jordan
    - Dune series, Herbert
    - anything by Wilbur Smith
    - the Flavia de Luce mysteries, Bradley
    - the various series by Guy Gavriel Kay



    Oh..so the typical novel is too short?
    If you look at
    ?Wandering Inn? it?s a bit of an outlier on the large side (what?s it, around 10 million words now) but your average small online serial sits at around 300k words which is what a printed series would be.
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  • From August Abolins@1:153/757.2 to John Dovey on Thursday, August 05, 2021 11:57:17
    ?real books? she said ?they?re too short?. It?s true. If you look at ?Wandering Inn? it?s a bit of an outlier on the large side (what?s it, around 10 million words now) but your average small online serial sits at around 300k words which is what a printed series would be.

    Wouldn't it be more satisfying to read a story (even if it is a long-running series) with a good conclusion?

    I mean, the Wandering Inn is designed to go on and on and on, isn't it? Unless there's something absolutely unique about it where I wouldn't want to leave, I would think that a never-ending story would lose it's magic.

    More recommendations to the previous list:

    - Mistborn trilogy, Sanderson
    - Lightbringer series, Weeks
    - All Souls trilogy, Harkness
    - Legends of the First Empire, Sullivan
    - Gentleman Bastards series, Lynch
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  • From John Dovey@2:460/256 to August Abolins on Thursday, August 05, 2021 22:51:23
    Glad to see you, August!

    I was chatting to my middle daughter earlier, and she had a bit of an epiphany; when someone asked her why she only reads online stuff and not
    ?real books? she said ?they?re too short?. It?s true.
    I don't think I've ever met someone only interested in tomes.
    She could always ask a knowledgeable librarian or bookseller for the mega versions.
    Just off the top of my head there's:
    - Midnight Sun, Meyer
    - Court of Silver Flames, Maas
    - Lord of the Rings trilogy, Tolkien
    - Stand/It, King
    - A Song of Ice & Fire series, Martin
    - Wheel of Time series, Jordan
    - Dune series, Herbert
    - anything by Wilbur Smith
    - the Flavia de Luce mysteries, Bradley
    - the various series by Guy Gavriel Kay
    Oh..so the typical novel is too short?
    If you look at
    ?Wandering Inn? it?s a bit of an outlier on the large side (what?s it, around 10 million words now) but your average small online serial sits at
    around 300k words which is what a printed series would be.

    Just FYI, She's read just over 1600 books in the last two years. She's fifteen. None of those books are in print. I have a fairly large proportion of the books you've mentioned in print on my bookshelf. She's not interested.

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  • From August Abolins@2:460/256 to John Dovey on Thursday, August 05, 2021 23:09:32
    Hi John,
    ...Greets from my Telegram app!

    Just FYI, She's read just over 1600 books in the last two years. She's fifteen. None of those books are in print. I have a fairly large proportion of the books you've mentioned in print on my bookshelf. She's not interested.

    Perhaps she's not interested in holding a book by now?

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  • From August Abolins@1:153/757.21 to John Dovey on Thursday, August 05, 2021 19:49:00
    Hello John!

    ** On Thursday 05.08.21 - 22:51, you wrote:

    Just FYI, She's read just over 1600 books in the last two
    years. She's fifteen.

    That's roughly 2 books a day. That's a spead-reader for sure!
    I've never mastered spead-reading.. it's generally the same
    speed at which a person talks - or at the typical speed of an
    audiobook narration.

    Does she use a proper ereader (w/e-paper) ? ..or is the
    prefered device something else?


    None of those books are in print.

    When you say that, do you mean "only available in ebook
    format"? ..because an ebook would still be considered in
    print. ;)


    I have a fairly large proportion of the books you've
    mentioned in print on my bookshelf. She's not interested.

    I think there is a lot to be said for books in physical print
    to be of higher quality if they are backed by a major
    publisher. In those cases, an ebook version is just a 2ndary
    option next to an audio version.

    The hottest series that teen girls are lapping up right now is
    the "Shadow and Bone" series (Bardugo), "King of Scars duology"
    (Bardugo), and "Court of Thorns" series (Maas).

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  • From John Dovey@2:460/256 to August Abolins on Friday, August 06, 2021 02:54:54
    Glad to see you, August!

    Hello John!
    ** On Thursday 05.08.21 - 22:51, you wrote:
    That's roughly 2 books a day. That's a spead-reader for sure!
    I've never mastered spead-reading.. it's generally the same
    speed at which a person talks - or at the typical speed of an
    audiobook narration.
    Does she use a proper ereader (w/e-paper) ? ..or is the
    prefered device something else?
    When you say that, do you mean "only available in ebook
    format"? ..because an ebook would still be considered in
    print. ;)
    I think there is a lot to be said for books in physical print
    to be of higher quality if they are backed by a major
    publisher. In those cases, an ebook version is just a 2ndary
    option next to an audio version.
    The hottest series that teen girls are lapping up right now is
    the "Shadow and Bone" series (Bardugo), "King of Scars duology" (Bardugo), and "Court of Thorns" series (Maas).
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    She?s mostly on fanfiction.net and similar sites, so no, when I say not in print, that?s what I mean ;-)
    She reads on her iPhone exclusively.

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  • From August Abolins@2:460/256 to Sharon Aitken on Friday, August 06, 2021 04:30:52
    Hi Sharon,
    ...Greets from my Telegram app!

    Hiya! It?s a new genre for me. I generally read fantasy and sci fi series. I like to get lost in a world. So I?m up for recommendations. I?ve read Enders Game which I think was an early version of this genre? And tad Williams Otherworld, but I don?t think that?s the style you guys are reading ?

    Welcome to the group/echo! LitRPG is very new to me too. I was recently steered to check out The Wandering Inn, and I like what I've read so far. The "gameified" aspect of the story seems gimmicky as if to attrack true gamers to "reading" or something.. but we shall see how it goes.

    But my understanding is that LitRPG as been around for a very long time - RA Salvatore's Drizzt series goes way back (1990 for the Homeland, Exile and Sojourn trilogy) ..and is based on a Dungeon's and Dragons background. I took a quick start at Homeland, but I have a hard time to settle down with it. The font size of the reissued pocketbook is really small.

    Meanwhile, I discovered Heinlein ..and I'm being tugged to tackle his writing next. I picked up a worn library copy of The Star Beast that I was prepared to throw out, and started to laugh half way through the first page. The material sort of reminds me of Douglas Adams' Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.

    What are you reading right now?

    Ciao!
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  • From Sharon Aitken@2:460/256 to August Abolins on Friday, August 06, 2021 08:58:23
    I was chatting to my middle daughter earlier, and she had a bit of an epiphany; when someone asked her why she only reads online stuff and not
    ?real books? she said ?they?re too short?. It?s true.
    I don't think I've ever met someone only interested in tomes.
    She could always ask a knowledgeable librarian or bookseller for the mega versions.
    Just off the top of my head there's:
    - Midnight Sun, Meyer
    - Court of Silver Flames, Maas
    - Lord of the Rings trilogy, Tolkien
    - Stand/It, King
    - A Song of Ice & Fire series, Martin
    - Wheel of Time series, Jordan
    - Dune series, Herbert
    - anything by Wilbur Smith
    - the Flavia de Luce mysteries, Bradley
    - the various series by Guy Gavriel Kay
    Oh..so the typical novel is too short?
    If you look at
    ?Wandering Inn? it?s a bit of an outlier on the large side (what?s it, around 10 million words now) but your average small online serial sits at
    around 300k words which is what a printed series would be.

    Excellent series
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  • From August Abolins@1:153/757.21 to Sharon Aitken on Friday, August 06, 2021 07:23:00
    Hello Sharon!

    ** On Friday 06.08.21 - 08:58, you wrote:

    Excellent series

    Which one? Did you mean the Wandering Inn?
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  • From Sharon Aitken@2:460/256 to August Abolins on Friday, August 06, 2021 17:18:33
    Hello Sharon!
    ** On Friday 06.08.21 - 08:58, you wrote:
    Which one? Did you mean the Wandering Inn?
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    All of them are excellent ?
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