Nancy wrote --

the rack, the mechanic taking care of the muffler and the cop

drove by. I waved at him and he back and he kept on going. :)

He made sure your story was true, I see... :)

No doubt. :)

I'm sure that there'd been plenty of other students who'd given the

same story, but it hadn't been true.... ;)

I heard all sorts of stories/excuses when I was in parking but could
often tell from the persons body language, voice, etc if they were
telling the truth or not.
I recall one time I was citing a car when the owner gave this long
story why they shouldn't get a ticket. I listened politely and told them
(with a smile and chuckle) I was letting them go since in the all the
years I had been ticketing I had heard so many stories but this excuse
was a new one and they were getting off for originality. :)
(BTW, I hadn't printed the ticket yet and any time up to that point the person could get away. I didn't mention that).
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Joe,

(BTW, I hadn't printed the ticket yet and any time up to that point the
person could get away. I didn't mention that).

The cat's out of the bag now!! <G>

Daryl

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Daryl wrote --

(BTW, I hadn't printed the ticket yet and any time up to that

point the person could get away. I didn't mention that).

The cat's out of the bag now!! <G>

That was only at Marshall. Your mileage may vary. :)
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Quoting Joe Mackey to Nancy Backus on 04-18-19 06:30 <=-

the rack, the mechanic taking care of the muffler and the cop
drove by. I waved at him and he back and he kept on going. :)

He made sure your story was true, I see... :)

No doubt. :)

I'm sure that there'd been plenty of other students who'd given the
same story, but it hadn't been true.... ;)

I heard all sorts of stories/excuses when I was in parking but could
often tell from the persons body language, voice, etc if they were
telling the truth or not.

Usually some sort of giveaway when they are... or aren't... ;)

I recall one time I was citing a car when the owner gave this long
story why they shouldn't get a ticket. I listened politely and told
them (with a smile and chuckle) I was letting them go since in all
the years I had been ticketing I had heard so many stories but this
excuse was a new one and they were getting off for originality. :)

Was it indeed a new excuse...? Or were you just in a generous mood...?

(BTW, I hadn't printed the ticket yet and any time up to that point
the person could get away. I didn't mention that).

No need to spill the beans.... :) And it's not something that one
should count on anyway... :)

ttyl neb

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Nancy wrote --

them (with a smile and chuckle) I was letting them go since in all
the years I had been ticketing I had heard so many stories but

this excuse was a new one and they were getting off for originality. :)

Was it indeed a new excuse...? Or were you just in a generous mood...?

It was a new one, but can't recall off hand what it was.
One time I was working traffic control for move in, which is always
busy and hectic. We had three one way streets. The ones on either end
were northbound, which went around behind some dorms to unload, and
merged a half block away unto my street was one way south bound and went
to the large parking areas. Picture a large M, or W, depending on how
you are looking at it. There were also barrels blocking traffic from
continuing on that street, along with a cop to make sure they didn't, or
get very far going the wrong way on a one lane one way street. (The lane nearest the buildings was unloading only and a solid line of cars).
I had cones and barrels set up, along with a Do Not Enter sign
blocking one half of the street so one lane out. There was also a stop
light at that corner.
I would keep an eye on cars at the light and know when someone was
going to try and drive the wrong way and shoo them off.
One time this parent drove through the intersection and tried to go
the wrong way. I stopped him in a hurry.
I asked if he saw the barrels, cones and Do Not Enter sign. He
replied yes. I asked what he thought that meant. He said he didn't
know, he wasn't from around here.
I gave him a stern look and said barrels, cones and do not enter signs
are pretty universal "from Antarctica to Zanzibar". He hung his head in
shame, his wife said "I told you so" and hit his right arm and started laughing. I did as well and gave him directions.
They had to pass by me on the way out and I gave him a "some people!"
look and then smiled, hanging my head, shaking it and gave a sigh. We
both laughed over it.
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Nancy,

No need to spill the beans.... :) And it's not something that one
should count on anyway... :)

There was a game by that name years ago "Don't Spill The Beans".

Daryl

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Joe,

One time this parent drove through the intersection and tried to go
the wrong way. I stopped him in a hurry.

Well, he was only going ONE WAY. :P

I asked if he saw the barrels, cones and Do Not Enter sign. He
replied yes. I asked what he thought that meant. He said he didn't JM>know, he wasn't from around here.

Wow.

I gave him a stern look and said barrels, cones and do not enter signs
are pretty universal "from Antarctica to Zanzibar". He hung his head in JM>shame, his wife said "I told you so" and hit his right arm and started JM>laughing. I did as well and gave him directions.

LOL!!

They had to pass by me on the way out and I gave him a "some people!"
look and then smiled, hanging my head, shaking it and gave a sigh. We JM>both laughed over it.

A little humor never hurt anyone.

Daryl

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Quoting Joe Mackey to Nancy Backus on 04-22-19 07:18 <=-

didn't, or get very far going the wrong way on a one lane one way
street. (The lane nearest the buildings was unloading only and a solid line of cars). I had cones and barrels set up, along with a Do Not
Enter sign blocking one half of the street so one lane out. There was also a stop light at that corner.
I would keep an eye on cars at the light and know when someone was
going to try and drive the wrong way and shoo them off.

Pretty obvious setup... ;)

One time this parent drove through the intersection and tried to go
the wrong way. I stopped him in a hurry.
I asked if he saw the barrels, cones and Do Not Enter sign. He
replied yes. I asked what he thought that meant. He said he didn't
know, he wasn't from around here.

In other words, he saw it but didn't want it to apply to him... ;)

I gave him a stern look and said barrels, cones and do not enter
signs are pretty universal "from Antarctica to Zanzibar". He hung his head in shame, his wife said "I told you so" and hit his right arm and started laughing. I did as well and gave him directions.
They had to pass by me on the way out and I gave him a "some
people!" look and then smiled, hanging my head, shaking it and gave a sigh. We both laughed over it.

There you go.... ;) No, sir, you are NOT a special case.... <G> He
should have just listened to his wife to begin with.... ;)

ttyl neb

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Quoting Daryl Stout to Nancy Backus on 04-24-19 17:06 <=-

No need to spill the beans.... :) And it's not something that one
should count on anyway... :)

There was a game by that name years ago "Don't Spill The Beans".

I vaguely remember that one... I don't remember if I ever played it
though.... ;)

ttyl neb

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Nancy wrote --

And fortunately the van stopped before running over you.... Good thing
it was still driveable, too... :)

That's true. It just didn't look as good as before.
I've been in a few accidents over the years, being the hittee not the
hitter.
One time in college after a rain another student was giving me a ride to
my car and joked he was going to hit it. Now I hard parked in a new lot,
which was mostly grass and mud.
His Bug slid and did hit my passenger door. It only caved in the door of
my Falcon and I was able to pop that out later with a rubber hammer and no lasting damage.
He was so apologetic over that, wanting to pay the repair bill, etc.
Plus there were several times when delivering produce the vans where hit
when another driver ran a red light, rear-ended, etc.
Never been in a serious accident, thankfully.
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Quoting Joe Mackey to Nancy Backus on 09-01-19 06:27 <=-

And fortunately the van stopped before running over you.... Good thing
it was still driveable, too... :)

That's true. It just didn't look as good as before.

And since it was a rental, you didn't have to deal with the aftermath so
much, either... :)

I've been in a few accidents over the years, being the hittee not
the hitter.
One time in college after a rain another student was giving me a
ride to my car and joked he was going to hit it. Now I had parked in
a new lot, which was mostly grass and mud.
His Bug slid and did hit my passenger door. It only caved in the
door of my Falcon and I was able to pop that out later with a rubber hammer and no lasting damage.
He was so apologetic over that, wanting to pay the repair bill, etc.

Bet he never joked like that again... <G> Good that it wasn't that big
a deal... :)

Plus there were several times when delivering produce the vans
were hit when another driver ran a red light, rear-ended, etc.

I've had a number of accidents over the years... most of them other
people (or animals) hitting me... and mostly not too serious...

Never been in a serious accident, thankfully.

I've had a couple semi-serious ones, but not too bad.... worst one was
when I was in college, and a parked truck was where it shouldn't have
been... broke my lower jaw against my steering wheel... so I got a
"free" brace on that jaw... orthodontics inadvertantly... :)

ttyl neb

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Nancy wrote --

I've had a number of accidents over the years... most of them other
people (or animals) hitting me... and mostly not too serious...

One day the chief returned from a conference in a state car (the
university has a fleet for things like that) and the front end all banged up. He
said he had hit a deer and I asked he knew it was illegal to hunt deer with a car. :)
He was not amused.

when I was in college, and a parked truck was where it shouldn't have
been... broke my lower jaw against my steering wheel... so I got a
"free" brace on that jaw... orthodontics inadvertantly... :)

Friend of mine and his bride-to-be were in an accident many years ago and
a couple of her front teeth were knocked out when she hit the dashboard. (Along with some other minor injuries).
He always joked it was cheaper to marry her than to pay for the dental
work. (They are still married, 50 years this December)
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Joe,

One day the chief returned from a conference in a state car (the
university has a fleet for things like that) and the front end all banged up JM>He
said he had hit a deer and I asked he knew it was illegal to hunt deer with JM>car. :)
He was not amused.

Sounds like the response I got, when I was first diagnosed with
digestive tract issues. He said "You have to watch what you eat". I
replied "I do...from the plate to the mouth". He didn't like my answer.

Friend of mine and his bride-to-be were in an accident many years ago and
a couple of her front teeth were knocked out when she hit the dashboard. JM>(Along with some other minor injuries).

I went through braces, nightbraces, retainers, rubber bands, etc. for
many years. Growing up, I had severe buck teeth. The 4 wisdom teeth were removed in 1978, and the rest in 2000...I've had full dentures since
then.

He always joked it was cheaper to marry her than to pay for the dental
work. (They are still married, 50 years this December)

Congratulations to the long married couple. You don't find many of
those anymore.

But, that reminds me of the joke where the wife wakes up one night to
this horrid weeping and wailing sound. She notices her husband isn't in bed...and so, she gets up, and starts looking for him.

She finds him in the basement, bawling like an upset baby, crying incessantly. Consoling, she asks "Honey!! What's wrong??".

Through the tears, he told her "Remember when your Daddy caught me and
you doing hanky panky, and said I could marry you, or go to jail for 20 years??". She said "Yes. Why??". Sobbingly, he wailed "Today's the day I would've gotten out of prison"!! <BG>

Yes, I'm in one of my nether moods today. <G>

Daryl

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Daryl wrote --

I went through braces, nightbraces, retainers, rubber bands, etc. for
many years. Growing up,

I never had any of those. In fact, I never saw a dentist until I was in
the Navy.
Not that I didn't need to, I did.
Then came the time I got into a "discussion" with another deck ape over
the ownership of a sponge when washing down bulkheads. Suddenly I went from standing up to sitting down leaning against a open hatch. Seems of the 1000 men on my ship I managed to get
He also knocked out a tooth that was replaced that started my supporting
the lifestyle of several dentists.
Over the years from 19 to my early 50s my mouth was a mess. I had
fillings, caps, crowns, partials, etc.
Whenever I moved and went to a new dentist he wanted to pull out all the fillings, caps, etc so my mouth would be his.
When I moved back here I went to a dentist and asked if he wanted to pull
all that out and replace it and was told "Not unless you want me to". I
knew then I had a winner. Stuck with him several years, till he died then his partners after that.
When I was in my early 50s I was tired of that patchwork and opted for a complete set of new ones. Never had a problem with them. Unless something
I did.

(They are still married, 50 years this December)

Congratulations to the long married couple. You don't find many of
those anymore.

My brother and SIL have been married 60 (or 61) years.
Joe

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Re: Re: Cars
By: JOE MACKEY to DARYL STOUT on Fri Sep 06 2019 05:48:12

Then came the time I got into a "discussion" with another deck ape over the ownership of a sponge when washing down bulkheads. Suddenly I went

from standing up to sitting down leaning against a open hatch. Seems of the 1000 men on my ship I managed to get

it broke again :(


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Joe,

When I moved back here I went to a dentist and asked if he wanted to pull
all that out and replace it and was told "Not unless you want me to". I JM>knew then I had a winner. Stuck with him several years, till he died then h JM>partners after that.

That's the same with Affordable Dentures...got an upper and lower set
of "falsies" for $450. That was several years ago, and unless I need to
get them replaced or repaired, I don't worry about it.

Over the years, 2 of the toes on each foot, had to have the toenails
removed, due to freak accidents. I won't have the others removed, unless
it's necessary.

My brother and SIL have been married 60 (or 61) years.

Nowadays, it's far less than that...consider these true instances. The
first 3 are at the reception, the last was at the altar.

1) Only 15 minutes after being pronounced husband and wife, they
announced they were getting a divorce.

2) The groom angrily tore up the marriage license. Nowadays, if you
don't return the signed license to the County Courthouse, etc. within a
few days after the wedding or honeymoon, you have to pay a hefty fine.

3) The bride and groom got into a knock down drag out fight, that made
Roller Derby look tame!!

4) When the preacher said "if anyone feels this couple shouldn't be
married, let them speak now, or forever hold their peace", IT WAS THE
BRIDE WHO SPOKE UP (she got cold feet at the altar). Both families were
LIVID, as they had SPENT ALL THAT MONEY!!

Daryl

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Quoting Joe Mackey to Nancy Backus on 09-04-19 06:43 <=-

Replying from the Pond, on 9 Sept, about 9:25am....

I've had a number of accidents over the years... most of them other
people (or animals) hitting me... and mostly not too serious...

One day the chief returned from a conference in a state car (the university has a fleet for things like that) and the front end all
banged up. He said he had hit a deer and I asked if he knew it was illegal to hunt deer with a car. :)
He was not amused.

Nor would I have been.... ;) Seemed to me that the deer were hunting
ME.... sure wasn't my idea.... :)

when I was in college, and a parked truck was where it shouldn't have been... broke my lower jaw against my steering wheel... so I got a
"free" brace on that jaw... orthodontics inadvertantly... :)

Friend of mine and his bride-to-be were in an accident many years
ago and a couple of her front teeth were knocked out when she hit the dashboard. (Along with some other minor injuries).
He always joked it was cheaper to marry her than to pay for the
dental work. (They are still married, 50 years this December)

So actually, that was a success story.... :)

ttyl neb

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CP wrote --

I began my drinking, as a kid, with what we called Hi-Test (5.65% ABV vs 5.0 for most beers

WV was one of the first states to prohibit the sell of alcohol in 1914.
(It went national in 1920).
When Prohibition was repealed in 1933 WV only allowed near beer, I think three per cent. This lasted until the '80s or '90s.
Nor could an establishment be called a "saloon". A local place here went
to court about that in the late '80s and won.
Liquor by the drink was limited to only "clubs" and not until the 1950s. Each bar was a "club" and membership was like 50 cents a year and had to
show a club card whenever one ordered. If known to the bartender/owner they didn't have to show it, but have
In addition liquor bars could have no windows where someone walking by
could see inside.
But, if you had a bar in like a restaurant, the windows didn't have to be blacked out.

you don't drink beer to get drunk; you drink beer because you like/want/need to pee;

Or like the old saying: You don't buy beer, you only rent it.

get drunk you drink whiskey

I was the opposite.
I could drink liquor and didn't faze me, but a few beers put me under
the table.

I have a couple preferred vehicles, I'd love to have all of: Ford F-350 pickup truck
'69 Cougar (w/ the wrap-around tail lights)
'67 Mustang (w/original leather buckets)

I remember when I sold cars in the mid '70s and those were just "old
used cars" on the lot.

a Bluebird yellow school bus, with all the seats ripped out

When I was a kid we had a handyman working for the family. Bob did a bit
of everything.
My father got a old school bus that was cleaned out and Bob lived in
there, it was sort of like a open floor plan trailer.
Bob was epileptic and would occasionally have a "fit". Everyone carried
a padded tongue depressor and knew how to put it in his mouth so he would
not bite off his tongue.
I can only imagine up the uproar today with a 10-11 years old kid
carrying one in his back pocket and using it when needed.

maybe a wacky VW Bug

Something that's strange to me about Bugs are at one time they were all
over the place, then suddenly, almost over night, they just disappeared.
Joe
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WV was one of the first states to prohibit the sell of alcohol in 1914.
(It went national in 1920).
When Prohibition was repealed in 1933 WV only allowed near beer, I think three per cent. This lasted until the '80s or '90s.
Nor could an establishment be called a "saloon". A local place here went
to court about that in the late '80s and won.

This was your childhood era/location?

In my hometown (now officially a city) they had no Sunday shopping laws in place until a semi-local billionaire took the city to cou8rt on religious rights basis & won. (He refused to close his grocery stores on Sundays, then refused to pay the fines given to him each time the cops showed up)

I had no skin in that one -- mattered nought to me. If the stores were closed any day, I got what I needed another day.

I grew up in the era where if you didn't withdraw enough money by 3pm Friday, you had no cash to use on Tuesday! & withdrawals had to take place at the counter!

I was a young teen when Chargex first appeared in my town, & I watched it evolve into Visa. I also saw lottery games brought in -- they insisted it would benefit schools, , & kids' sports -- guess which three groups get gutted the worst each year, in spite of gaming revenues being HUGE?

Liquor by the drink was limited to only "clubs" and not until the 1950s.
Each bar was a "club" and membership was like 50 cents a year and had to
show a club card whenever one ordered. If known to the bartender/owner they didn't have to show it, but have

We have this for the Legion & A.N.A.F. (Army, Navy, Air Force Veterans clubs); only members allowed in, to drink the cheaper beer & eat the better priced quality food. You're either a full member (veteran) or Auxiliary (child of a veteran--that was my status -- my dad was too far away to get him to sign me in, so the bartender just assigned one of his staff to sign with him(needed two to sponsor/recommend), recommending my acceptance.)

The one ANAF club didn't have too strict a membership policy, as they liked having the college kids from across the street coming in & spending money daily.

I got the membership anyhow, to support it with my dues. & I liked being a card carrying member of the old "Bucket of Blood"(its nickname from the days where it was a big fighting spot); it was shortened to just "The Bucket" by the time I discovered the place. I'm no fighter, but I liked beer being half the price of my local pub & a roast beef dinner, with everything, for only $5 on Fridays. . . & free snooker on a proper 5X10 slate table, sometimes shuffleboard, which I learned there.

Then I moved to a neighboring suburb, & hadn't made it there for ten years, & now it's gone & their space is now a dance studio for kids.

'twas a wee pain, as I had to go in the main door, at the top of a 6-step stairwell, & hollerfor the bartender to get two guys to haul out the ramp & let me in the back doors (big enough to drive a vehicle through), as I was in a wheelchair by this point.

you don't drink beer to get drunk; you drink beer because you like/want/need

to pee;
Or like the old saying: You don't buy beer, you only rent it.

Exactly. Coffee's the same.

get drunk you drink whiskey

I was the opposite.
I could drink liquor and didn't faze me, but a few beers put me under
the table.

My first drunkenness was guzzling about 32 ounces of straight Canadian Club rye whiskey like it was ginger ale, then asking for more, as it tasted good, but luckily my friend knew what was coming (&, yup,. hit me in about 40 minutes -- BOOM!!! 11 years old & I was 'faced, barely able to stand, but I had to travel
about 4 miles home within a half hour, & not get caught for having been drinking (I just knew it would get me in trouble); I made it home okay (hitchhiked 2.5 of the miles & jogged the rest); It kind of immunized me against hard liquor -- I could drink lots asa teen & no real effect. But beer/wine were the same --even less of any buzz (I could get a buzz from liquor, or a full high from weed--this was years before it was officially legal up here; some places the cops only stop you to ask to share a joint with you.

I was 14yo & had occasion to share my joint with a cop, while he drove us up to a park outside the downtown area, as our drinking & toking could only make him look bad, as he was assigned the main drag. I had respect for him.

'69 Cougar (w/ the wrap-around tail lights)
'67 Mustang (w/original leather buckets)

I remember when I sold cars in the mid '70s and those were just "old
used cars" on the lot.

Yup, pre-Classic or is it Vintage now, at 55 years old? Then so am I!

Something that's strange to me about Bugs are at one time they were all
over the place, then suddenly, almost over night, they just disappeared.

Hmm, I hadn't noticed, but yeah, even though they're brand new, I'm only seeing the newer, flattr type -- I don't like them; I prefer the traditional car, as Hitler designed it for the people (das wagen for das volks)

The old bugs attracted much creativity in their owners. . .

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CP wrote --

Nor could an establishment be called a "saloon". A local place here went to court about that in the late '80s and won.

This was your childhood era/location?

This was here in town.
AFAIK there no places called a saloon otherwise in WV. And that place
went of business years ago.

In my hometown (now officially a city) they had no Sunday shopping laws

WV had blue laws until around the '50s or '60s.

I had no skin in that one -- mattered nought to me. If the stores were closed any day, I got what I needed another day.

Concur.
At one time liquor and beer laws prohibited selling on Sunday. I always thought why not just buy it ahead of time? Or are you planning on drinking
all those bottles and need more?
In the late '70s I drove a cab and liquor blue laws were still in effect. (Beer was allowed by then). After a short time I knew where all the bootleggers were in town from someone wanting booze either after the state stores*
closed or a Sunday.
I knew knew where the houses of ill-repute where.
I have no idea where they are today or if they even exist.
I also knew many of the hookers, who for the most part were as ugly as a
mud fence. I always thought their johns must been awfully hard up to go
with one of them.
I do remember one beautiful woman, like a model, whom I discovered after
a few rides was a call girl, at $100 an hour (over $385 today). She was a secretary by day. Looking at her one would have never suspected.
(* Until the 1990s the state of WV sold liquor and could only legally
buy from the state.)

I grew up in the era where if you didn't withdraw enough money by 3pm Friday, you had no cash to use on Tuesday! & withdrawals had to take place at the counter!

Yep.

I remember when I sold cars in the mid '70s and those were just "old
used cars" on the lot.

Yup, pre-Classic or is it Vintage now, at 55 years old? Then so am I!

I wonder what look-alike SUV's and such today will someday be
"classics"? Darn sight few I imagine.
I an watching videos of classic cars (started with ones from the 1890ss
and up to 1960 now)*. They either people and their cars today, commercials from the era, dealer sales film strips/films (usually how wonderful their
car is compared to others of the l
I love how cars were all the same size, it was mostly just a trim/engine difference. Along with things like standard or automatic, etc.
I constantly sigh and shake my head when some young person is talking
about a car then rags how it doesn't have this, that and the other that are in modern cars. ("This car has no seat belts!" "This car has no GPS" etc when talking about a 1950s or '60s
One had a some kid in his 20s trying to figure out how to shift a
standard column.
(*At first it was whatever some YT channel host had. Then I started
putting them in order, being a bit OCD, with bookmarks for 1950, 1951, etc. And I go from make and model starting with the lower priced to the top of the line, and by model.
For example, take 1960.
I will start with Ford, Chevy and Plymouth. Then up to Mercury, then Pontiac-Olds-Buick. Then DeoSoto, Dodge, etc. Up to Cadillac, Lincoln, Chrysler. Also Studebaker, AMC, etc.)
Joe
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Joe,

WV had blue laws until around the '50s or '60s.

They still have them in Arkansas...you can't buy alcoholic beverages
(beer, wine, liquor) on Sunday.

At one time liquor and beer laws prohibited selling on Sunday. I
always thought why not just buy it ahead of time? Or are you planning
on drinking all those bottles and need more?

99 bottles of beer on the wall...right next to the bathroom (as it is a diuretic).

I knew knew where the houses of ill-repute where.

Does that make you a knew-dissed by avoiding them? <g,d,r>

I also knew many of the hookers, who for the most part were as ugly
as a mud fence. I always thought their johns must been awfully hard up
to go with one of them.

Some square dance moves, mainly at the higher levels, are where the
dancers hook arms, and they're known as the hookers. <G>

I do remember one beautiful woman, like a model, whom I discovered
after a few rides was a call girl, at $100 an hour (over $385 today).
She was a secretary by day. Looking at her one would have never suspected.

Maybe she was akin to Jessica Rabbit playing patty-cake with Marvin Acme
in "Who Framed Roger Rabbit" (I loved Christopher Lloyd as Judge Doom in
that movie). And, all the animation was done by hand.

One had a some kid in his 20s trying to figure out how to shift a standard column.

One thug in central Arkansas carjacked this driver...but he only made it
1/4 mile when he couldn't figure out how to use the stick-shift, so he abandoned it. After the original owner called the police with a description
of the thug, and the police dusted the car for fingerprints, they let the original owner get back in, and drive off.

Daryl

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Daryl wrote --

One thug in central Arkansas carjacked this driver...but he only made it 1/4 mile when he couldn't figure out how to use the stick-shift

I've heard of that happening in other places as well.
One thing about some of these videos are people going up to 30 and 40 mph before they shift into second! Then flooring a classic car and going close
t0 80 in them. Sheesh.
Joe
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They still have them in Arkansas...you can't buy alcoholic beverages
(beer, wine, liquor) on Sunday.

You could not buy beer in the grocery store in KY on Sunday, either, until
just very recently. Gatorade is on the same aisle. It must have changed during COVID because the plastic "drapes" that used to go over the side of the aisle where the beer is are gone now, and the lights are on in the coolers.

Mike

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Joe,

One thing about some of these videos are people going up to 30 and 40 mph before they shift into second! Then flooring a classic car and
going close t0 80 in them. Sheesh.

Sounds like a great way to burn out the transmission and the engine.

In short, DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME!! Otherwise, you'll have a very expensive repair bill!!

Daryl

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Daryl wrote --

One thing about some of these videos are people going up to 30 and 40 mph before they shift into second! Then flooring a classic car and going close t0 80 in them. Sheesh.

Sounds like a great way to burn out the transmission and the engine.

Yep.

In short, DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME!! Otherwise, you'll have a very expensive repair bill!!

And you have some people of the hot rod mindset who treat an older car
like its a new off the showroom sports car.
Way too many things to go wrong, even with a frame off restorations.
Such as metal fatti-gue. Fifty plus year old steel isn't generally as strong as new steel.
One guy learned the hard way.
There was a vid of a guy in a hopped up '60 Comet who was showing off
and crashed into a truck, totaling the car. The car survived 60 years until some fool got behind the wheel...
Joe

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Joe,

Way too many things to go wrong, even with a frame off restorations. Such as metal fatti-gue. Fifty plus year old steel isn't generally as strong as new steel.

The law of entropy affects everyone and everything.

There was a vid of a guy in a hopped up '60 Comet who was showing
off and crashed into a truck, totaling the car. The car survived 60
years until some fool got behind the wheel...

So now, we should ban the cars because they cause wrecks??

Daryl

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Daryl wrote --

So now, we should ban the cars because they cause wrecks??

No, no, no. There's too much money made from cars.
There are taxes on them, taxes on gas, personal injury lawyers, etc. :)
Joe




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Joe,

Way too many things to go wrong, even with a frame off restorations. Such as metal fatti-gue. Fifty plus year old steel isn't generally as strong as new steel.

The law of entropy affects everyone and everything.

I thought the same thing at Fleet Week in San Francisco, watching a Mig-15
do aerobatics over the bay.

Beautiful airplane, those Migs.


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CP wrote --

Nor could an establishment be called a "saloon". A local place here went

to court about that in the late '80s and won.

This was your childhood era/location?

This was here in town.
AFAIK there no places called a saloon otherwise in WV. And that place
went of business years ago.

I've only known of "saloon" as the American term for a bar/pub. There's a few across the border here.

We used to pop in there on our monthly tobacco run in Sumas, have a couple pitchers before heading home. . .

In my hometown (now officially a city) they had no Sunday shopping laws

WV had blue laws until around the '50s or '60s.

I had no skin in that one -- mattered nought to me. If the stores were

closed any day, I got what I needed another day.
Concur.
At one time liquor and beer laws prohibited selling on Sunday. I always thought why not just buy it ahead of time? Or are you planning on drinking all those bottles and need more?

Yup? No biggie, but a local millionaire(presumably not religious in the Christian/Sunday sense) wanted customers to be able to shop on both common weekend days off at his grocery stores, so he began quietly staying open. Prolly some old lady who didn't really care deeply(more on "principle"), made a phone call to the constabulary or her friend on the police force.

Personally I don't care, but principly, I believe if we're to define ourselves as freedom to act/speak/worship as one wishes, then you can't have blue laws. If community standards were truly against it, then nobody'd shop no Sundays & eventually the guy would keep it closed. If staff wanted Sundays off for their own worship -- it's already established in law that they must be granted their religious freedom & the day off (not with pay, of course); the position has to be advertised as including Sundays & holidays, then one presumes those applying are fine with such.

Then you get some guy who took a job that was to include scheduling on any days, per the boss' needs. & he later converted to some obscure religion that had certain days off, & sued, as the boss, when asked for those days to be blocked off, essentially said, "I hired you to fill any shifts without blocked off times," sadly, the courts ruled against the employer, & he had to pay back pay plus interest for those days worked against his newfound religion.

I don't agree with this -- I'd expect two weeks notice of any changes, including quitting or starting a new religion with certain rights. Not that
the courts would support me, even if the contract they signed said this.

In the late '70s I drove a cab and liquor blue laws were still in effect. (Beer was allowed by then). After a short time I knew where all the bootleggers were in town from someone wanting booze either after the state stores*
closed or a Sunday.
I knew knew where the houses of ill-repute where.

Typical for cabbies,. I understand, especially in smaller towns, or tourist destinations. My landlord/employer(PT Casual Dispatcher) back east when I was 17, owned the block, including the only local taxi company. He used to keep a hooker in the back room, until his wife forced him to stop, & they had the basic boozes people requested(beer, whiskey. vodka) stocked up in a different back room. Nobody ever asked for anything besides a ride when I was answering the phone(most days, as he had a line run to my pool hall), but, yeah, locals are going to talk to the driver directly, not to a stranger(non-local, to boot) on the phone. Most trips were shopping trips or drunks going home who lived too far from the hotel bar to walk in the -40 & 2' of snow.

The main trip for this was 30 miles up out of town, & the cabbies typically required payment up-front, from the welfare drunks.

I have no idea where they are today or if they even exist.

Likely do, but with different staff providing the fitness classes to customers.

I also knew many of the hookers, who for the most part were as ugly as a
mud fence. I always thought their johns must been awfully hard up to go
with one of them.

I've seen my share of both ends of the quality continuum. Only as an outsider - - not my thing. . . I was offered a freebie from a Calgary pimp because he had a brother who lived in Vancouver & I was from there. I was a 16yo virgin, & wasn't about to have my first experience with a hooker, plus I was scared they'd beat me & rob me. . . (I've read a lot of stories with this as a scene)

I do remember one beautiful woman, like a model, whom I discovered after
a few rides was a call girl, at $100 an hour (over $385 today). She was a secretary by day. Looking at her one would have never suspected.

I was approached by one, years ago,. a downtown street girl, who struck up a conversation because I'd, civilly wished a good evening.

She asked if I had a girlfriend (no); then asked if I liked to party (occasionally, thinking she meant literally, involving music & drinking), then asked if I'd like to party with her; I said, "I'm pretty sure I can't afford you" (to let her know I was onto what was going on here, that I wasn't a country bumpkin) & she said, quick as a cobra, "$100, anything you want." so I said, "Yup, I was right; can't afford you - you have a good night, now. . ."

(* Until the 1990s the state of WV sold liquor and could only legally
buy from the state.)

It was so here until only about ten years ago, when they legalized private stores, but with severe restrictions. Any sales/discounts given were to be matched by an equal surtax on the customer. Bars only two years ago, could have happy hour, but only about a 30% discount & had to be a minimum price for the discounted drinks, so the bars just increased their overall prices to provide the full 30% off. When drinking in the next province over at age 16, I was in a strip club that had happy hour that night, each drink ordered & paid for at the usual price resulted in two being delivered. I got 'faced pretty quickly.

I wonder what look-alike SUV's and such today will someday be
"classics"? Darn sight few I imagine.

I doubt many could survive long -- a buddy had a '67 Mustang body he bought from a fire -- it was burned right out -- he restored it to mint factory condition (all original parts, he found, worldwide, one by one); today's cars, there'd be only the odd bolt surviving a big fire. I call them "styrofoam cars" (the ones made of composites or fiberglass)

I picture a Ford Focus in a fire like a to-go coffee cup in a campfire.

I an watching videos of classic cars (started with ones from the 1890ss
and up to 1960 now)*. They either people and their cars today, commercials from the era, dealer sales film strips/films (usually how wonderful their
car is compared to others of the l
I love how cars were all the same size, it was mostly just a trim/engine difference. Along with things like standard or automatic, etc.

Yup, you could go back, do comparative studies on gasoline mileage between brands and years, as I was trying to do -- I wanted to prove that we're being deliberately screwed on mileage. The companiers say "oh, modern cars have a lot more going on, so use more power(e./g. AC), so I was comparing like engines & car sizes/models in barebones factory models.

I constantly sigh and shake my head when some young person is talking
about a car then rags how it doesn't have this, that and the other that are in
modern cars. ("This car has no seat belts!" "This car has no GPS" etc when talking about a 1950s or '60s
One had a some kid in his 20s trying to figure out how to shift a
standard column.

*LOL* Sounds like a YouTube channel I like: "Kids react to..."

(*At first it was whatever some YT channel host had. Then I started
putting them in order, being a bit OCD, with bookmarks for 1950, 1951, etc. And I go from make and model starting with the lower priced to the top of the line, and by model.
For example, take 1960.
I will start with Ford, Chevy and Plymouth. Then up to Mercury, then Pontiac-Olds-Buick. Then Desoto, Dodge, etc. Up to Cadillac, Lincoln, Chrysler. Also Studebaker, AMC, etc.)

A fun, inexpensive hobby, not requiring gas or money or even clean laundry!

My hobbies are all like that now. . .

Collecting/making memes, collecting/sharing jokes, influencing governments(all Cdn so far,. 3 levels to work with), plus working here & there in between (my choice of days & hours); I wrote the Indian PM to suggest how he could help Ukraine & gain global respect/business, if he wasn't too deeply married to Putin. . .

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