On 2022-05-19, Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote:

On Thu, 19 May 2022 07:18:19 GMT
Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

.. A common language for the whole EU? I dunno, grin: Think English is
out now they left, OTOH then all have to learn it so equal effort for
everybody, why not.

English is I think the most common second language in the EU -

To bring this stupidity on topic, I thought the common language for RPI
users was PYTHON. Nearly all suppliers of hardware add-ons provide
python example software for access. Is there a compiler or interpreter
for "English" for the raspberry pi?

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Den 2022-05-19 kl. 23:32, skrev Jim Jackson:

To bring this stupidity on topic, I thought the common language for RPI
users was PYTHON. Nearly all suppliers of hardware add-ons provide
python example software for access. Is there a compiler or interpreter
for "English" for the raspberry pi?

Yes. Just look at the key words https://realpython.com/python-keywords/#python-keywords-and-their-usage

Python Keywords: An Introduction
Value Keywords: True, False, None.
Operator Keywords: and, or, not, in, is.
Control Flow Keywords: if, elif, else.
Iteration Keywords: for, while, break, continue, else.
Structure Keywords: def, class, with, as, pass, lambda.
Returning Keywords: return, yield.
Import Keywords: import, from, as.

looks like English to me.

in 1997 I was doing a master thesis.
It was about logistics and I visualized key comparison values for
warehouses by looking into a WMS database from Excel.
This was programmed in VBA. At the time, MS had the idea that
each language the Excel was translated to should also have the macro
language translated. No only the spread sheet formulas, but also the VBA.

it looked really weird typing

om A=B så
ange s = blad("Blad1")
annars om A=C så
ange s = blad("Blad2")
annars
ange s = blad("Blad3")
slut om

instead of


if A=B then
let s = sheet("Blad1")
else if A=C then
let s = sheet("Blad2")
else
let s = sheet("Blad3")
end if


It then got really bad when the dutch and uk part of the company wanted it.

In the end there was an option to make all localised Excel's understand
english VBA




--
Björn

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On 20.05.22 10:20, Björn Lundin wrote:

Den 2022-05-19 kl. 23:32, skrev Jim Jackson:

To bring this stupidity on topic, I thought the common language for RPI
users was PYTHON. Nearly all suppliers of hardware add-ons provide
python example software for access. Is there a compiler or interpreter
for "English" for the raspberry pi?

Yes. Just look at the key words https://realpython.com/python-keywords/#python-keywords-and-their-usage

Python Keywords: An Introduction
Value Keywords: True, False, None.
Operator Keywords: and, or, not, in, is.
Control Flow Keywords: if, elif, else.
Iteration Keywords: for, while, break, continue, else.
Structure Keywords: def, class, with, as, pass, lambda.
Returning Keywords: return, yield.
Import Keywords: import, from, as.

looks like English to me.

in 1997 I was doing a master thesis.
It was about logistics and I visualized key comparison values for
warehouses by looking into a WMS database from Excel.
This was programmed in VBA. At the time, MS had the idea that
each language the Excel was translated to should also have the macro
language translated. No only the spread sheet formulas, but also the VBA.

it looked really weird typing

om A=B så
  ange s = blad("Blad1")
annars om A=C så
  ange s = blad("Blad2")
annars
  ange s = blad("Blad3")
slut om

instead of

if A=B then
  let s = sheet("Blad1")
else if A=C then
  let s = sheet("Blad2")
else
  let s = sheet("Blad3")
end if

It then got really bad when the dutch and uk part of the company wanted it.

In the end there was an option to make all localised Excel's understand english VBA

It's the same as in Linux (and Un*x): quite a number of commands use the
locale to show output in the local language, so if you want to
postprocess that output, you are best advised to switch to the English
locale and use that.

Josef

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On Fri, 20 May 2022 10:20:00 +0200
Björn Lundin <b.f.lundin@gmail.com> wrote:

This was programmed in VBA. At the time, MS had the idea that
each language the Excel was translated to should also have the macro
language translated. No only the spread sheet formulas, but also the VBA.

it looked really weird typing

om A=B så
ange s = blad("Blad1")

A RtL script would be /interesting/.

--
Steve O'Hara-Smith
Odds and Ends at http://www.sohara.org/

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On 20/05/2022 09:20, Björn Lundin wrote:

Den 2022-05-19 kl. 23:32, skrev Jim Jackson:

To bring this stupidity on topic, I thought the common language for RPI
users was PYTHON. Nearly all suppliers of hardware add-ons provide
python example software for access. Is there a compiler or interpreter
for "English" for the raspberry pi?

Yes. Just look at the key words https://realpython.com/python-keywords/#python-keywords-and-their-usage

Python Keywords: An Introduction
Value Keywords: True, False, None.
Operator Keywords: and, or, not, in, is.
Control Flow Keywords: if, elif, else.
Iteration Keywords: for, while, break, continue, else.
Structure Keywords: def, class, with, as, pass, lambda.
Returning Keywords: return, yield.
Import Keywords: import, from, as.

looks like English to me.

in 1997 I was doing a master thesis.
It was about logistics and I visualized key comparison values for
warehouses by looking into a WMS database from Excel.
This was programmed in VBA. At the time, MS had the idea that
each language the Excel was translated to should also have the macro
language translated. No only the spread sheet formulas, but also the VBA.

it looked really weird typing

om A=B så
  ange s = blad("Blad1")
annars om A=C så
  ange s = blad("Blad2")
annars
  ange s = blad("Blad3")
slut om

instead of

if A=B then
  let s = sheet("Blad1")
else if A=C then
  let s = sheet("Blad2")
else
  let s = sheet("Blad3")
end if

It then got really bad when the dutch and uk part of the company wanted it.

In the end there was an option to make all localised Excel's understand english VBA

The fact is that English is the de facto international language that
everybody needs to learn.

It's used in science, its used in air traffic control, its used in
software, its used almost everywhere.


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the right place whilst your head is in the clouds and your hand is in
someone else's pocket.

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