Where did everyone go all of a sudden?
Recently, there was a flurry of off-topic discussion. Then, all
traffic on this newsgroup seems to have shut off very suddenly.
I checked, and it appears I'm still subscribed.
Where did everyone go all of a sudden?
Recently, there was a flurry of off-topic discussion. Then, all
traffic on this newsgroup seems to have shut off very suddenly.
I checked, and it appears I'm still subscribed.
On 5/29/2022 10:15 PM, Robert Riches wrote:
Where did everyone go all of a sudden?Who knows, possibly they are trying to find a Raspberry Pi that slipped
Recently, there was a flurry of off-topic discussion. Then, all
traffic on this newsgroup seems to have shut off very suddenly.
I checked, and it appears I'm still subscribed.
in past the chip shortage. ;)
I downloaded the latest release of raspbian or whatever its called
and as usual everything has changed, but sound worked first time.
On 30-05-2022 08:09, Jan Panteltje wrote:
I downloaded the latest release of raspbian or whatever its called
and as usual everything has changed, but sound worked first time.
Be sure to also try the 64-bit version, if you haven't already. It seems >production-ready to me and it's the inevitable future of PiOS.
On a sunny day (Mon, 30 May 2022 12:15:45 +0200) it happened "A. Dumas" <alexandre@dumas.fr.invalid> wrote in <t725gh$pu2$1@dont-email.me>:
On 30-05-2022 08:09, Jan Panteltje wrote:
I downloaded the latest release of raspbian or whatever its called and
as usual everything has changed, but sound worked first time.
Be sure to also try the 64-bit version, if you haven't already. It seems >>production-ready to me and it's the inevitable future of PiOS.
Yea, I took the 32 bit version as I was afraid much stuff I have / or
wrote would have problems with 64 Later :-)
I would like a simple Linux without dbus and all the other mysterious
crap.
I would like a simple Linux without dbus and all the other mysterious
crap.
As to 'security' why all that shit with blocking root??
Been root since 1998!
So, in short: forget about 64 bit, maybe I will have a go at that Ubuntu,
or what's it called openBSD?
I would like a simple Linux without dbus and all the other mysterious crap.
On Mon, 30 May 2022 15:55:30 +0000, Jan Panteltje wrote:
On a sunny day (Mon, 30 May 2022 12:15:45 +0200) it happened "A. Dumas"
<alexandre@dumas.fr.invalid> wrote in <t725gh$pu2$1@dont-email.me>:
On 30-05-2022 08:09, Jan Panteltje wrote:
I downloaded the latest release of raspbian or whatever its called and >>>> as usual everything has changed, but sound worked first time.
Be sure to also try the 64-bit version, if you haven't already. It seems >>>production-ready to me and it's the inevitable future of PiOS.
Yea, I took the 32 bit version as I was afraid much stuff I have / or
wrote would have problems with 64 Later :-)
I would like a simple Linux without dbus and all the other mysterious
crap.
Here, have this one on me... https://arm.slackware.com/
On Mon, 30 May 2022 15:55:30 GMT
Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:
I would like a simple Linux without dbus and all the other mysterious
crap.
I can install a FreeBSD system without dbus - but once GUI
applications start going on it dbus appears as a *very* common dependency.
As to 'security' why all that shit with blocking root??
Been root since 1998!
On a personal system it's silly. In a corporate environment
blocking root and forcing sudo makes it possible to tell *who* did what
with superuser permissions - which can be a legal matter with a *lot*
riding on it (think Enron).
So, in short: forget about 64 bit, maybe I will have a go at that Ubuntu,
or what's it called openBSD?
The BSDs (which are not Linux distributions, they use their own
kernels derived from CSRG's BSD-4.4-Lite).
NetBSD is probably the purist unix around today - the aim of the
NetBSD project is to be portable to *anything* with enough processing
power, which tends to keep things pure.
OpenBSD is aimed squarely at security, everything else is secondary.
FreeBSD is aimed at people who want to build servers, it also makes
a decent workstation but tends to have trouble with the bells and whistles
of a modern Linux desktop. I like it.
As to 'security' why all that shit with blocking root??
Been root since 1998!
Any 'bad' guy who can get into the pi account can do sudo rm -rf /*
On 30/05/2022 16:55, Jan Panteltje wrote:
As to 'security' why all that shit with blocking root??
Been root since 1998!
Any 'bad' guy who can get into the pi account can do sudo rm -rf /*
BUT when YOU do it it reminds you that you are doing it, by asking for a >password
--
"Socialist governments traditionally do make a financial mess. They
always run out of other people's money. It's quite a characteristic of them"
Margaret Thatcher
Strange, have not tried that one for obvious reasons,
but it never asks me for a pwaasword for anything else
procedure, as user pi:
sudo su -
whoami
root!
echo hello > /rot/q1
cat /root/q1
hello
WHAT password???
tOn Tue, 31 May 2022 12:02:26 GMT, Jan Panteltje
<pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> declaimed the following:
Strange, have not tried that one for obvious reasons,
but it never asks me for a pwaasword for anything else
procedure, as user pi:
It's a configurable parameter -- and the R-Pi foundation, for some
reason, decided to configure the pi account as "no password needed"
https://www.tecmint.com/run-sudo-command-without-password-linux/
Don't know if that holds for the latest OS release -- as I understand
it, there is no default pi account. One has to create a new account >name/password during first boot of a fresh install.
sudo su -
whoami
root!
echo hello > /rot/q1
cat /root/q1
hello
WHAT password???
Same sequence on a BeagleBone Black running Debian 10 (ignoring the
typos -- you really should cut&paste the text rather than transcribe it by >hand)::
-=-=- (PuTTY session)
Using username "debian".
Pre-authentication banner message from server:
| Debian GNU/Linux 10
|
| BeagleBoard.org Debian Buster IoT Image 2020-08-19
|
| Support: https://bbb.io/debian
|
| default username:password is [debian:temppwd]
|
End of banner message from server
debian@beaglebone's password:
The programs included with the Debian GNU/Linux system are free software;
the exact distribution terms for each program are described in the
individual files in /usr/share/doc/*/copyright.
Debian GNU/Linux comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY, to the extent
permitted by applicable law.
Last login: Tue May 3 15:04:37 2022 from fe80::c932:bd85:577:9922%eth0 >debian@beaglebone:~$ sudo su -
[sudo] password for debian:
root@beaglebone:~# whoami
root
root@beaglebone:~# echo hello > /root/q1
root@beaglebone:~# cat /root/q1
hello
root@beaglebone:~# rm /root/q1
root@beaglebone:~#
-=-=-
root@beaglebone:~# cat /etc/sudoers
#
# This file MUST be edited with the 'visudo' command as root.
#
# Please consider adding local content in /etc/sudoers.d/ instead of
# directly modifying this file.
#
# See the man page for details on how to write a sudoers file.
#
Defaults env_reset
Defaults mail_badpass
Defaults >secure_path="/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin"
# Host alias specification
# User alias specification
# Cmnd alias specification
# User privilege specification
root ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL
# Allow members of group sudo to execute any command
%sudo ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL
# See sudoers(5) for more information on "#include" directives:
#includedir /etc/sudoers.d
root@beaglebone:~#
root@beaglebone:~# ls /etc/sudoers.d/
admin README
root@beaglebone:~#
-=-=-
vs an R-Pi (/etc/sudoers looks identical, but...):
-=-=-
pi@rpi3bplus-1:~$ sudo su -
root@rpi3bplus-1:~# ls /etc/sudoers.d/
010_at-export 010_pi-nopasswd 010_proxy README
root@rpi3bplus-1:~# cat /etc/sudoers.d/010_pi-nopasswd
pi ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL
root@rpi3bplus-1:~#
-=-=-
Remove that file and the R-Pi will ask for a password...
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