• Rec'd Operating System for SBBS 3.19c+

    From Kaelon@1:103/705 to All on Monday, May 02, 2022 07:43:37
    Hi Everyone,

    I've been e-mailing a bit with digital man, and thought I would open up the conversation to the group. The BBS bug has bitten me once more, and so I'm starting a carefully-considered process of setting up my own system. Before I do, though, I want to create the right anchorage: the Operating System. I'm going to opt for a Windows machine, but I'm on the fence between Windows 32-Bit (which I understand will make a lot of things trivial, given some of the out-of-box support for the 16-bit DOS Doors) and other flavors of Windows.

    What is your favorite / recommended Operating System for setting up a brand new Synchronet BBS? If you were to start from scratch today, and build the most scalable canvas upon which to paint your BBS dreams, what system specifications would you aim for?

    Thanks for your thoughts!

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  • From MRO@1:103/705 to Kaelon on Monday, May 02, 2022 10:07:33
    Re: Rec'd Operating System for SBBS 3.19c+
    By: Kaelon to All on Mon May 02 2022 07:43 am

    Hi Everyone,

    I've been e-mailing a bit with digital man, and thought I would open up the conversation to the group. The BBS bug has bitten me once more, and so I'm starting a carefully-considered process of setting up my own system. Before I do, though, I want to create the right anchorage: the Operating System. I'm going to opt for a Windows machine, but I'm on the fence between Windows 32-Bit (which I understand will make a lot of things trivial, given some of the out-of-box support for the 16-bit DOS Doors) and other flavors of Windows.

    What is your favorite / recommended Operating System for setting up a brand new Synchronet BBS? If you were to start from scratch today, and build the most scalable canvas upon which to paint your BBS dreams, what system specifications would you aim for?


    you should run windows 10 or windows 7 32bit. but, we have almost no users, so beware.
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  • From Kaelon@1:103/705 to MRO on Monday, May 02, 2022 08:24:26
    Re: Rec'd Operating System for SBBS 3.19c+
    By: MRO to Kaelon on Mon May 02 2022 10:07 am

    you should run windows 10 or windows 7 32bit. but, we have almost no users, so beware.

    Thanks. But, what do you mean by "beware"? As in, likely to not get much traffic? I'm under no delusions that BBS'ing today is a super niche, even if it is undergoing a brief renaissance. That said, I did visit "20 for Beers," "CJ's Place," and a few other systems this weekend, and I will say a dozen or so callers a day makes them for pretty active places. I'll likely set up a system mostly for message bases and files and joining networks like DOVE-Net, FidoNet, and the like.

    Or did you mean that we don't have very many Windows 10 or Windows 7 32-bit SysOps?
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  • From MRO@1:103/705 to Kaelon on Monday, May 02, 2022 11:01:20
    Re: Rec'd Operating System for SBBS 3.19c+
    By: Kaelon to MRO on Mon May 02 2022 08:24 am

    Re: Rec'd Operating System for SBBS 3.19c+
    By: MRO to Kaelon on Mon May 02 2022 10:07 am

    you should run windows 10 or windows 7 32bit. but, we have almost no users, so beware.

    Thanks. But, what do you mean by "beware"? As in, likely to not get much traffic? I'm under no delusions that BBS'ing today is a super niche, even if it is undergoing a brief renaissance. That said, I did visit "20 for Beers," "CJ's Place," and a few other systems this weekend, and I will say a dozen or so callers a day makes them for pretty active places. I'll likely set up a system mostly for message bases and files and joining networks like DOVE-Net, FidoNet, and the like.

    Or did you mean that we don't have very many Windows 10 or Windows 7 32-bit SysOps?
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    there's no users
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  • From Kaelon@1:103/705 to MRO on Monday, May 02, 2022 10:39:25
    Re: Rec'd Operating System for SBBS 3.19c+
    By: MRO to Kaelon on Mon May 02 2022 11:01 am

    there's no users

    I'm not sure about that. I've dialed into a few BBS'es and have seen dozens of users checking into them daily. Some, like "20 for Beers," have half a dozen users logged in at the same time, actively playing games and contributing.
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  • From DesotoFireflite@1:103/705 to Kaelon on Monday, May 02, 2022 12:53:36
    Re: Rec'd Operating System for SBBS 3.19c+
    By: Kaelon to All on Mon May 02 2022 07:43 am

    Hi Everyone,

    I've been e-mailing a bit with digital man, and thought I would open up the conversation to the group. The BBS bug has bitten me once more, and so I'm starting a carefully-considered process of setting up my own system. Before I do, though, I want to create the right anchorage: the Operating System. I'm going to opt for a Windows machine, but I'm on the fence between Windows 32-Bit (which I understand will make a lot of things trivial, given some of the out-of-box support for the 16-bit DOS Doors) and other flavors of Windows.

    What is your favorite / recommended Operating System for setting up a brand new Synchronet BBS? If you were to start from scratch today, and build the most scalable canvas upon which to paint your BBS dreams, what system specifications would you aim for?

    I would reccomend Windows 10, 32bit. Win 10 is stable, and the 32bit version works well with the old dos programs. They do have a fix for the 64bit version of windows to run the old doors, bit I heard plus and minus about it. I have one computer running the 64bit version using the fix, but I still opt to run my BBS on the 32bit version. Whatever you use, just have fun with it, and make it your own.

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  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to Kaelon on Monday, May 02, 2022 11:15:40
    Re: Rec'd Operating System for SBBS 3.19c+
    By: Kaelon to All on Mon May 02 2022 07:43 am

    I've been e-mailing a bit with digital man, and thought I would open up the conversation to the group. The BBS bug has bitten me once more, and so I'm starting a carefully-considered process of setting up my own system. Before I do, though, I want to create the right anchorage: the Operating System. I'm going to opt for a Windows machine, but I'm on the fence between Windows 32-Bit (which I understand will make a lot of things trivial, given some of the out-of-box support for the 16-bit DOS Doors) and other flavors of Windows.

    Whatever you choose, it's easy to move Synchronet between computers running different OSes, so it's not a big deal/decision.
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  • From Kaelon@1:103/705 to Digital Man on Monday, May 02, 2022 11:58:26
    Re: Rec'd Operating System for SBBS 3.19c+
    By: Digital Man to Kaelon on Mon May 02 2022 11:15 am

    Whatever you choose, it's easy to move Synchronet between computers running different OSes, so it's not a big deal/decision.

    Thanks, Digital Man. I didn't realize it, but now thinking back to my days SysOp'ing a WWIV BBS, I guess it's just moving the entire directory structure from one device to the other, right?

    Windows obfuscates and hides so many configuration files these days, that I have to affirmatively look for programs that are run "portably" so that I know that I can move them. Is Synchronet BBS built this way?
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  • From Kaelon@1:103/705 to DesotoFireflite on Monday, May 02, 2022 12:00:05
    Re: Rec'd Operating System for SBBS 3.19c+
    By: DesotoFireflite to Kaelon on Mon May 02 2022 12:53 pm

    I have one computer running the 64bit version using the fix, but I still
    opt to run my BBS on the 32bit version. Whatever you use, just have fun with it, and make it your own.

    Well said, DesotoFireflite. Really appreciate the craftsmanship behind the BBS Hobby, and that's what I've been learning most about in the past weekend when I was visiting the surprisingly large number of systems in operation. I love the uniqueness of CJ's Place, 20 for Beers, Valhalla (of course!), and all of the pieces that make these places special and memorable.
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  • From MRO@1:103/705 to Kaelon on Monday, May 02, 2022 16:11:24
    Re: Rec'd Operating System for SBBS 3.19c+
    By: Kaelon to MRO on Mon May 02 2022 10:39 am

    Re: Rec'd Operating System for SBBS 3.19c+
    By: MRO to Kaelon on Mon May 02 2022 11:01 am

    there's no users

    I'm not sure about that. I've dialed into a few BBS'es and have seen dozens of users checking into them daily. Some, like "20 for Beers," have half a dozen users logged in at the same time, actively playing games and contributing. _____

    those are sysops
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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@1:103/705 to Kaelon on Monday, May 02, 2022 14:17:39
    Subject: Rec'd Operating System for SBBS 3.19c+
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    Re: Rec'd Operating System for SBBS 3.19c+
    By: Kaelon to All on Mon May 02 2022 07:43 am

    I'm going to opt for a Windows machine, but I'm on the fence between Windows 32-Bit (which I understand will make a lot of things trivial, given some of the out-of-box support for the 16-bit DOS Doors) and other flavors of Windows.

    A couple of years ago, I'd say stick to 32-bit. Now, Synchronet has 32-bit archivers by default, I think. As for doors, many are written in Javascript and run inside of the BBS.

    With regards to games, I think you could skip running them locally and use one of the BBS game door servers, you'll have a larger pool of players than if you install the games locally.

    32-bit XP was great, I had a lot of memory to spare. With 32-bit Windows 10, there's not as much memory available. I'd rather run 64 bit windows, ditch my DOS programs and use the additional memory.

    There is a 3rd party 16-bit DOS VDM out there that'll let you run 16-bit DOS apps, but I haven't tried it yet.

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  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to Kaelon on Monday, May 02, 2022 16:45:46
    Re: Rec'd Operating System for SBBS 3.19c+
    By: Kaelon to Digital Man on Mon May 02 2022 11:58 am

    Re: Rec'd Operating System for SBBS 3.19c+
    By: Digital Man to Kaelon on Mon May 02 2022 11:15 am

    Whatever you choose, it's easy to move Synchronet between computers running different OSes, so it's not a big deal/decision.

    Thanks, Digital Man. I didn't realize it, but now thinking back to my days SysOp'ing a WWIV BBS, I guess it's just moving the entire directory structure from one device to the other, right?

    Pretty much:
    https://wiki.synchro.net/faq:misc#migration

    Windows obfuscates and hides so many configuration files these days, that I have to affirmatively look for programs that are run "portably" so that I know that I can move them. Is Synchronet BBS built this way?

    Yes. The exceptions are control panel settings which are stored in the Registry (easily exported and re-imported if you need to) and the virtual UART/FOSSIL driver which must reside in the Windows/System32 directory.
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  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to poindexter FORTRAN on Monday, May 02, 2022 16:48:12
    Re: Rec'd Operating System for SBBS 3.19c+
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Kaelon on Mon May 02 2022 02:17 pm

    There is a 3rd party 16-bit DOS VDM out there that'll let you run 16-bit DOS apps, but I haven't tried it yet.

    I'm use it (NTVDMx64, a 2021 version) with great success. The one exception is TW2002 which has some weird numeric output issue under NTVDMx64.
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  • From Kaelon@1:103/705 to MRO on Monday, May 02, 2022 18:15:42
    Re: Rec'd Operating System for SBBS 3.19c+
    By: MRO to Kaelon on Mon May 02 2022 04:11 pm

    those are sysops

    Is that a problem? Given the niche art that is BBS'ing in the age of the Internet, I'd expect every user to be running their own system, too.
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  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to Kaelon on Monday, May 02, 2022 18:47:21
    Re: Rec'd Operating System for SBBS 3.19c+
    By: Kaelon to MRO on Mon May 02 2022 06:15 pm

    those are sysops

    Is that a problem? Given the niche art that is BBS'ing in the age of the Internet, I'd expect every user to be running their own system, too. _____

    My BBS gets users, and while some are sysops, I'm not convinced all are sysops.

    Nightfox

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  • From Ragnarok@1:103/705 to Kaelon on Monday, May 02, 2022 23:19:02
    El 2/5/22 a las 11:43, Kaelon escribió:
    Hi Everyone,

    I've been e-mailing a bit with digital man, and thought I would open up the conversation to the group. The BBS bug has bitten me once more, and so I'm starting a carefully-considered process of setting up my own system. Before I do, though, I want to create the right anchorage: the Operating System. I'm going to opt for a Windows machine, but I'm on the fence between Windows 32-Bit (which I understand will make a lot of things trivial, given some of the out-of-box support for the 16-bit DOS Doors) and other flavors of Windows.

    What is your favorite / recommended Operating System for setting up a brand new Synchronet BBS? If you were to start from scratch today, and build the most scalable canvas upon which to paint your BBS dreams, what system specifications would you aim for?

    Thanks for your thoughts!

    Debian GNU/Linux and Sychronet, run solid as rock

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  • From MRO@1:103/705 to poindexter FORTRAN on Monday, May 02, 2022 21:32:45
    Re: Rec'd Operating System for SBBS 3.19c+
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Kaelon on Mon May 02 2022 02:17 pm

    given some of the out-of-box support for the 16-bit DOS Doors) and other flavors of Windows.

    A couple of years ago, I'd say stick to 32-bit. Now, Synchronet has 32-bit archivers by default, I think. As for doors, many are written in Javascript and run inside of the BBS.


    not many. and the best doorgames are still the dos ones.
    There is a 3rd party 16-bit DOS VDM out there that'll let you run 16-bit DOS apps, but I haven't tried it yet.

    i dont even want to touch that hack.
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  • From MRO@1:103/705 to Kaelon on Monday, May 02, 2022 21:33:42
    Re: Rec'd Operating System for SBBS 3.19c+
    By: Kaelon to MRO on Mon May 02 2022 06:15 pm

    Re: Rec'd Operating System for SBBS 3.19c+
    By: MRO to Kaelon on Mon May 02 2022 04:11 pm

    those are sysops

    Is that a problem? Given the niche art that is BBS'ing in the age of the Internet, I'd expect every user to be running their own system, too.

    sysops are not users. why would you expect that?


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  • From MRO@1:103/705 to Nightfox on Monday, May 02, 2022 21:34:03
    Re: Rec'd Operating System for SBBS 3.19c+
    By: Nightfox to Kaelon on Mon May 02 2022 06:47 pm

    Re: Rec'd Operating System for SBBS 3.19c+
    By: Kaelon to MRO on Mon May 02 2022 06:15 pm

    those are sysops

    Is that a problem? Given the niche art that is BBS'ing in the age of the Internet, I'd expect every user to be running their own system, too. _____

    My BBS gets users, and while some are sysops, I'm not convinced all are sysops.



    are you sure? have you checked lately?
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  • From Gamgee@1:135/115 to Nightfox on Monday, May 02, 2022 21:40:00
    Nightfox wrote to Kaelon <=-

    Re: Rec'd Operating System for SBBS 3.19c+
    By: Kaelon to MRO on Mon May 02 2022 06:15 pm

    those are sysops

    Is that a problem? Given the niche art that is BBS'ing in the age of the Internet, I'd expect every user to be running their own system, too. _____

    My BBS gets users, and while some are sysops, I'm not convinced
    all are sysops.

    Same here, and I know for a fact that some are not sysops.



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  • From Tracker1@1:103/705 to Kaelon on Monday, May 02, 2022 18:59:14
    On 5/2/22 07:43, Kaelon wrote:

    What is your favorite / recommended Operating System for setting up a
    brand new Synchronet BBS? If you were to start from scratch today, and
    build the most scalable canvas upon which to paint your BBS dreams,
    what system specifications would you aim for?

    I've been pretty happy with Linux + Docker... though I need to fix the
    check scripts, now that I've updated the build scripts.

    Using Ubuntu Server for my host OS... I've used Ubuntu on my pc,
    raspberry pi, and WSL2 in windows, been relatively straight forward.
    The bbs-io docker image is Debian based, just updated the build scripts
    to the current stable release, and simplified the setup.

    Now I need to get the release/check scripts updated... 3.19b is broken
    on AMD currently. Next few days should have the automated build process fixed, then will build and update the 3.x releases.
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  • From Kaelon@1:103/705 to MRO on Tuesday, May 03, 2022 08:19:15
    Re: Rec'd Operating System for SBBS 3.19c+
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Mon May 02 2022 09:34 pm

    My BBS gets users, and while some are sysops, I'm not convinced all are sysops.

    are you sure? have you checked lately?

    It sounds like you're picking a fight, MRO. So what if users are or aren't SysOps themselves? BBS'ing is a hobby, a passion-project, a labor of love. People should be doing this, in my opinion, because they love doing it, not because they want to convene some sort of mass-following of end-users or community-build.

    That said, given the traffic that I am seeing on the active and *unique* BBS'es, I am fairly convinced that most of these users are *not* SysOps. In particular, I look at "20 for Beers," "CJ's Place," and "Valhalla" as good examples of very active, unique, valuable BBS'es that don't just look like something that someone else has done.

    For that reason, if/when I set up a BBS, I would want to contribute something unique that makes people want to call and log in frequently. That will take time, passion, and commitment. And I want to learn more about it.
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  • From MRO@1:103/705 to Kaelon on Tuesday, May 03, 2022 11:02:35
    Re: Rec'd Operating System for SBBS 3.19c+
    By: Kaelon to MRO on Tue May 03 2022 08:19 am

    Re: Rec'd Operating System for SBBS 3.19c+
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Mon May 02 2022 09:34 pm

    My BBS gets users, and while some are sysops, I'm not convinced all are sysops.

    are you sure? have you checked lately?

    It sounds like you're picking a fight, MRO.

    no, it's a question. you sound like one of those guys that joins reddit to get karma and asks a lot of questions for upvotes.

    So what if users are or aren't
    SysOps themselves? BBS'ing is a hobby, a passion-project, a labor of love.

    it's a big difference. don't tell me what "BBS'ing" is. I've been
    doing it longer than you.

    For that reason, if/when I set up a BBS, I would want to contribute something unique that makes people want to call and log in frequently. That will take time, passion, and commitment. And I want to learn more about it.

    whatever dude. i hate reading what you write.
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  • From Jas Hud@1:103/705 to Gamgee on Tuesday, May 03, 2022 09:07:42
    no you don't.
    you don't get many users at all. i just checked out your bbs a few weeks ago. you have arelor and that other guy. that's about it for your users.
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  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to MRO on Tuesday, May 03, 2022 09:19:57
    Re: Rec'd Operating System for SBBS 3.19c+
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Mon May 02 2022 09:34 pm

    My BBS gets users, and while some are sysops, I'm not convinced all
    are sysops.

    are you sure? have you checked lately?

    Some of them occasionally send me emails saying things like they just found out BBSes still exist etc. and they say they want to thank me for running mine, etc..

    Nightfox

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  • From MRO@1:103/705 to Nightfox on Tuesday, May 03, 2022 12:04:34
    Re: Rec'd Operating System for SBBS 3.19c+
    By: Nightfox to MRO on Tue May 03 2022 09:19 am

    Re: Rec'd Operating System for SBBS 3.19c+
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Mon May 02 2022 09:34 pm

    My BBS gets users, and while some are sysops, I'm not convinced all
    are sysops.

    are you sure? have you checked lately?

    Some of them occasionally send me emails saying things like they just found out BBSes still exist etc. and they say they want to thank me for running mine, etc..


    yeah i get that too but we have really lost like 99.99% of our users.
    it's been bad and getting worse over the last 3 years or so.

    I'm not sure how to bring in new people or bring the old ones back.
    i thought having web clients would help a lot, and now we have a bunch.

    We need some type of new draw. years ago i suggested that we incorporate torrent technology into synchronet so we could share our file bases. that might be helpful to expand synchronet into a torrent site community software.

    The thing is, i know a lot of sysops would mess with the files, or not have their ports open for the transfers. if we had networked msgs bases and someone messed with the files, that would mess it up for their sharing in the swarm.

    Also, when i had bbstorrents i had a lot of sysops who downloaded files and just couldnt get it. some even didnt know where the files were going when they downloaded them, so they ended up getting 160 gigs 2 or 3 times.
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  • From Kaelon@1:103/705 to MRO on Tuesday, May 03, 2022 10:16:02
    Re: Rec'd Operating System for SBBS 3.19c+
    By: MRO to Kaelon on Tue May 03 2022 11:02 am

    whatever dude. i hate reading what you write.

    I don't get the hostility; not sure what I did to offend you, but don't worry, I won't interact with you further.

    Enjoy your sandbox.
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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@1:103/705 to Digital Man on Tuesday, May 03, 2022 08:03:00
    Subject: Re: Rec'd Operating System for SBBS 3.19c+
    @MSGID: <627151ED.63827.dove.sync@realitycheckbbs.org>
    @REPLY: <62706DBC.46900.sync@vert.synchro.net>
    @TZ: c1e0
    Digital Man wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    I'm use it (NTVDMx64, a 2021 version) with great success. The one exception is TW2002 which has some weird numeric output issue under NTVDMx64. --

    That's good to know. I'm on my last 32-bit junkyard system to run the BBS
    on, the next junker has more than 4 GB of memory and I'd like to use it all.


    ... All of my certifications are self-signed.
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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@1:103/705 to Nightfox on Tuesday, May 03, 2022 08:31:00
    Subject: Re: Rec'd Operating System for SBBS 3.19c+
    @MSGID: <627151ED.63828.dove.sync@realitycheckbbs.org>
    @REPLY: <627089A9.81043.dove_sync@digitaldistortionbbs.com>
    @TZ: c1e0
    Nightfox wrote to Kaelon <=-

    My BBS gets users, and while some are sysops, I'm not convinced all are sysops.

    I see more new user emails coming through nowadays, I should check and see if/when they call back, how often they're calling.


    ... A journey of a thousand sandwiches begins with a single cut.
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  • From Gamgee@1:103/705 to Kaelon on Tuesday, May 03, 2022 17:42:00
    Kaelon wrote to MRO <=-

    whatever dude. i hate reading what you write.

    I don't get the hostility; not sure what I did to offend you, but
    don't worry, I won't interact with you further.

    Recommend you ignore "MRO". He's the resident troll/asshole, and is a complete moron to boot. Doesn't even have the balls to use his real
    name anywhere. Doesn't even run a BBS.



    ... All hope abandon, ye who enter messages here.
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  • From Gamgee@1:103/705 to Jas Hud on Tuesday, May 03, 2022 17:46:00
    Jas Hud wrote to Gamgee <=-

    no you don't.
    you don't get many users at all. i just checked out your bbs a
    few weeks ago. you have arelor and that other guy. that's about
    it for your users.

    You forget how to quote, doofus? Or did you do that on purpose to avoid proper context?

    If you *HAD* quoted, we'd all see that I didn't say I got "many" users.
    What I did say was that I was sure that not all my users are sysops. So
    your stupid comment doesn't even have any relevance to the topic being discussed.

    How many users do you have that aren't sysops? OH! WAIT! That's
    right, YOU DON'T RUN A BBS...

    FOAD, troll-boi.



    ... Ignorance can be cured. Stupid is forever.
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  • From Kaelon@1:103/705 to Gamgee on Tuesday, May 03, 2022 17:05:36
    Re: Re: Rec'd Operating System for SBBS 3.19c+
    By: Gamgee to Kaelon on Tue May 03 2022 05:42 pm

    Recommend you ignore "MRO". He's the resident troll/asshole, and is a complete moron to boot. Doesn't even have the balls to use his real
    name anywhere. Doesn't even run a BBS.

    Thanks for the heads up. Will definitely follow your advice!
    _____
    -=: Kaelon :=-
    --- SBBSecho 3.15-Linux
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  • From dragon@1:103/705 to Kaelon on Tuesday, May 03, 2022 20:03:31
    Subject: Re: Rec'd Operating System for SBBS 3.19c+
    @MSGID: <6271C2DA.37631.dove-syncdisc@bbs2.ipingthereforeiam.com>
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    @TZ: ff10
    On 5/3/2022 1:16 PM, Kaelon wrote:
    Re: Rec'd Operating System for SBBS 3.19c+
    By: MRO to Kaelon on Tue May 03 2022 11:02 am

    > whatever dude. i hate reading what you write.

    I don't get the hostility; not sure what I did to offend you, but don't worry, I won't interact with you further.

    Enjoy your sandbox.
    _____
    -=: Kaelon :=-

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  • From Kaelon@1:103/705 to dragon on Tuesday, May 03, 2022 22:42:05
    Re: Re: Rec'd Operating System for SBBS 3.19c+
    By: dragon to Kaelon on Tue May 03 2022 08:03 pm

    I don't get the hostility; not sure what I did to offend you, but don't worry, I won't interact with you further.

    Enjoy your sandbox.

    It's not you.

    I appreciate that. Thanks. :)
    _____
    -=: Kaelon :=-
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  • From Android8675@1:103/705 to Nightfox on Wednesday, May 04, 2022 07:30:54
    Re: Rec'd Operating System for SBBS 3.19c+
    By: Nightfox to MRO on Tue May 03 2022 09:19 am

    Some of them occasionally send me emails saying things like they just found out BBSes still exist etc. and they say
    they want to thank me for running mine, etc..

    I got one of those a few weeks ago. Guy named Nick I think? Nice guy.
    --
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