Just wanted to post it here as don't know where else would be better, I managed to get the kermit protocol running in Mystic (I know this isn't
a mystic channel) and really would love it if syncterm could handle the kermit protocol.
After using it for a little while with qodem, I realise that the transfer speeds in kermit are a lot, and I mean a LOT faster than zmodem for example, and think we could all benefit from having that as an option on BBSes that support kermit.
The ZMODEM protocol also has a lot of options that can impact
through-put (e.g. windowing or not, window size, encoding/escaping of characters).
I was able to get 600+ over kermit - about 4x the speeds I could get
over other protocols... at any rate, I'd invite seeing kermit support, too. :P
I was able to get 600+ over kermit - about 4x the speeds I could get over other protocols... at any rate, I'd invite seeing kermit support too. :P
is QW a mystic board? (specifically, using the internal zmodem) .. netrunner uses the same implementation and doesn't fare well according
to the sexyz wiki page. maybe it just sucks.
reminds me of an article i read about DOS file sharing implementations from M$, IBM, etc.. after considerable effort tweaking,the results were kind of like "well, this would have been fast back then" .. even though the hardware is capable of 100x better.
I was able to get 600+ over kermit - about 4x the speeds I could get over other protocols... at any rate, I'd invite seeing kermit support, too. :P
I was able to get 600+ over kermit - about 4x the speeds I could get other protocols... at any rate, I'd invite seeing kermit support, too
Wow, thats so fast!
Kermit is about 6 times faster than Zmodem for me =)
It's working flawlessly, and I just wish every BBS now had Kermit.
That's about the nuts and bolts of it.
Thanks for the writeup!
Kermit is about 6 times faster than Zmodem for me =)
It's working flawlessly, and I just wish every BBS now had Kermit.
Same here; I believe this has to do with current hardware, OS and softwares that we all run - neat that protocols perform differently 30 years later, but kermit flies for me over telnet/ssh in terminal.
Same here; I believe this has to do with current hardware, OS and softwares that we all run - neat that protocols perform differently 3 years later, but kermit flies for me over telnet/ssh in terminal.
I think they're performing differently because we're using them on an internet connection rather than a serial/modem connection. File transfer protcools such as Kermit, X/Y/Zmodem etc. were designed for serial connections (with considerations for dialup modems) and as such, they
were designed for raw data connections. But all the software that works with an internet connection uses network protocols such as TCP/IP &
such, which already have software mechanisms for transferring data back
& forth. As such, adding another file transfer protocol such as Zmodem
or Kermit onto that is redundant. A file transfer protocol that has minimal overhead (which I think is true for Kermit) probably is faster over the internet than something like Zmodem.
Regardless, its way better to just use www download links; but since people like using the terminal when bbsing, it is worthwhile that mL helps us offer
Re: Re: kermit protocol in sy
By: Phigan to paulie420 on Sat Aug 19 2023 05:57 am
Don't forget LModem...
whats lmodem?In the Atari BBS world back in the 80's, Keith Ledbetter wrote BBS:Express Pro and BBS:Express ST. LModem was a protocol he designed for his BBSes.
I demand jmodem support, damnit!!
*cough*
I'm protesting SyncTerm and Syncronet until I see Punter starting today. Who's with me!
I'm protesting SyncTerm and Syncronet until I see Punter starting today. Who's with me!
Hah! They might actually take up this one :). Surprised there isn't such support already!
Re: Re: kermit protocol in sy
By: Phigan to paulie420 on Sat Aug 19 2023 05:57 am
> I demand jmodem support, damnit!!
>
> *cough*
I'm protesting SyncTerm and Syncronet until I see Punter starting today. Who's with me!
Hah! They might actually take up this one :). Surprised there isn't such support already!
https://gitlab.synchro.net/main/sbbs/-/issues/300
I'm protesting SyncTerm and Syncronet until I see Punter starting today. Who's with me!
Hah! They might actually take up this one :). Surprised there isn't such support already!
https://gitlab.synchro.net/main/sbbs/-/issues/300
whats lmodem?In the Atari BBS world back in the 80's, Keith Ledbetter wrote BBS:Express Pro and BBS:Express ST. LModem was a protocol he designed for his BBSes.
I was just mentioning it to Phigan as a joke...
I'm protesting SyncTerm and Syncronet until I see Punter starting today. Who's with me!
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