• Backup policy

    From Rixter@1:103/705 to All on Sunday, January 12, 2025 12:32:05
    I do a full backup on the bbs once a week, I am beginning to think a differential backup would be better and faster. I am backing up to a 10 tb usb. It takes 45 minutes right now. What are the critical folders to back up in your opinion. I am just using the copy command. What do you use and what areas do you backup?

    Rixter
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  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to Rixter on Sunday, January 12, 2025 13:10:22
    Re: Backup policy
    By: Rixter to All on Sun Jan 12 2025 12:32 pm

    I do a full backup on the bbs once a week, I am beginning to think a differential backup would be better and faster. I am backing up to a 10 tb usb. It takes 45 minutes right now. What are the critical folders to back up in your opinion. I am just using the copy command. What do you use and what areas do you backup?

    How much space does your BBS take up? I have a script to archive my BBS and it usually takes about 5 minutes or so, and then I copy that to an external USB flash drive.

    Nightfox

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  • From Keyop@1:103/705 to Rixter on Sunday, January 12, 2025 23:38:41
    Re: Backup policy
    By: Rixter to All on Sun Jan 12 2025 12:32:05

    I do a full backup on the bbs once a week, I am beginning to think a differential backup would be better and faster. I am backing up to a 10 tb usb. It takes 45 minutes right now. What are the critical
    folders to back up in your opinion. I am just using the copy command. What do you use and what areas do you backup?

    I use a combination of backup routines:

    1. The server is backed up every day as an image which includes the OS and applications (e.g. sbbs) using Active Backup for Business by Synology (using their default retention policy = keep the latest of 7 days, 4 weeks, 12 months, 3 years).
    2. I rsync the whole /sbbs directory to another server in another country every day.
    3. I use tar with xz to copy sbbs minus data/dirs/ to same server above every day retaining the last 30 days.

    Probably an overkill, but you can never have enough backups in my view :)

    K

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  • From Rixter@1:103/705 to Nightfox on Sunday, January 12, 2025 19:10:58
    Re: Backup policy
    By: Rixter to All on Sun Jan 12 2025 12:32 pm

    How much space does your BBS take up? I have a script to archive my BBS and it usually takes about 5 minutes or so, and then I copy that to an external USB flash drive.

    Nightfox

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    Thanks I will try the script idea. Sounds great. Have a great night.
    Rixter

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  • From Rixter@1:103/705 to Keyop on Sunday, January 12, 2025 22:59:43
    Re: Backup policy
    By: Rixter to All on Sun Jan 12 2025 12:32:05

    I use a combination of backup routines:

    1. The server is backed up every day as an image which includes the OS and applications (e.g. sbbs) using Active Backup for Business by Synology (using their default retention policy = keep the latest of 7 days, 4 weeks, 12 months, 3 years).
    2. I rsync the whole /sbbs directory to another server in another country every day.
    3. I use tar with xz to copy sbbs minus data/dirs/ to same server above every day retaining the last 30 days.

    Probably an overkill, but you can never have enough backups in my view :)

    K

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    This is a good policy. Thank you.

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  • From nelgin@1:103/705 to Rixter on Monday, January 13, 2025 03:57:45
    Re: Backup policy
    By: Rixter to All on Sun Jan 12 2025 12:32:05

    I do a full backup on the bbs once a week, I am beginning to think a differential backup would be better and faster. I am backing up to a 10 tb usb. It takes 45 minutes right now. What are the critical folders to back up in your opinion. I am just using the copy command. What do you use and what areas do you backup?

    I create a list of packages installed on my system and back that up long with my sbbs directory on a daily basis using burp backup. My backup server is on another continent. I keep 7 days, then a couple of monthly backups, though that's really overkill, I have the space for it.

    If the server is lost, it's very easy to recreate, install burp, pull the package list and install the packages and restore the BBS. The entire backup is 26gb including file areas.

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  • From nelgin@1:103/705 to Keyop on Monday, January 13, 2025 03:58:31
    Re: Backup policy
    By: Keyop to Rixter on Sun Jan 12 2025 23:38:41

    Probably an overkill, but you can never have enough backups in my view :)

    Keyop is the home of overkill ;)

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  • From Rixter@1:103/705 to nelgin on Monday, January 13, 2025 08:27:13
    Re: Backup policy
    By: Rixter to All on Sun Jan 12 2025 12:32:05

    I create a list of packages installed on my system and back that up long with my sbbs directory on a daily basis using burp backup. My backup server is on another continent. I keep 7 days, then a couple of monthly backups, though that's really overkill, I have the space for it.

    If the server is lost, it's very easy to recreate, install burp, pull the package list and install the packages and restore the BBS. The entire backup is 26gb including file areas.

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    Thank you I will look into it. All I really need is to backup my message bases, userlists, and about 8 of the door game players files that change a lot weekly, the rest would be redundant. I have one full backup I keep and it takes a while to do. It would recreate the entire BBS if needed. I have done it on an old pc I am restoring and it worked great. I was hoping to make a script to back up the changes each week or day as some SYSOPs are doing. I am studying F BACKUP at the moment because it can be automated. I have a batch file in the works. Thank you for the information on BURP. Have a great day!
    Rixter

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  • From nelgin@1:103/705 to alt.bbs.synchronet on Sunday, January 12, 2025 15:58:31
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    Re: Backup policy
    By: Keyop to Rixter on Sun Jan 12 2025 23:38:41

    Probably an overkill, but you can never have enough backups in my view :)

    Keyop is the home of overkill ;)

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  • From Keyop@1:103/705 to nelgin on Monday, January 13, 2025 18:41:52
    Re: Backup policy
    By: nelgin to alt.bbs.synchronet on Sun Jan 12 2025 15:58:31

    Keyop is the home of overkill ;)

    Better overkill than roadkill :=)

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  • From nelgin@1:103/705 to Rixter on Monday, January 13, 2025 13:17:56
    Re: Backup policy
    By: Rixter to nelgin on Mon Jan 13 2025 08:27:13


    Thank you I will look into it. All I really need is to backup my message bases, userlists, and about 8 of the door game players files that change a lot weekly, the rest would be redundant. I have one full backup I keep and it takes a while to do. It would recreate the entire BBS if needed. I have done it on an old pc I am restoring and it worked great. I was hoping to make a script to back up the changes each week or day as some SYSOPs are doing. I am studying F BACKUP at the moment because it can be automated. I have a batch file in the works. Thank you for the information on BURP. Have a great day!

    You should also backup your ctrl and text directories since they have your configs and menu files. Also mods for any changes. You could just backup xtrn once to keep the settings and then any files that change on a more regular basis. You can get a really Linux cheap storage VPS (check out lowendbox or lowendtalk). My last backup took 5 minutes across the Atlantic.

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