May be a stupid question, but what do ya'll use for automated backups for your BBS?

Back in the day we were lucky to have spare HDs, or even ZIP drives. So much easier today.

I'm setting up `luckyBackup` on Ubuntu to a second drive, but I've used rsync in the past, and just straight zip > dropbox as well. Just curious what other linux sysops use.
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On 13 Dec 2023, j0HNNY a1PHA said the following...

May be a stupid question, but what do ya'll use for automated backups
for your BBS?

Back in the day we were lucky to have spare HDs, or even ZIP drives. So much easier today.

I'm setting up `luckyBackup` on Ubuntu to a second drive, but I've used rsync in the past, and just straight zip > dropbox as well. Just curious what other linux sysops use.
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On my Debian 12 machine, I use Veeam Free Agent, on my other Debian 11 VM's I use Active Backup for Business from my Xpenology NAS...

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I'm setting up `luckyBackup` on Ubuntu to a second drive, but I've used rsync in the past, and just straight zip > dropbox as well. Just curious what other linux sysops use.

I really have to do this.. Usually just tar and copy it to my other computer..

With most BBSes having them live in their own directory makes this so much easier, you don't have to worry about files scattered about the filesystem.

Andrew

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May be a stupid question, but what do ya'll use for automated backups
for your BBS?

LOL, not at all... I've backed systems up so many different ways over the years.

I'm setting up `luckyBackup` on Ubuntu to a second drive, but I've used rsync in the past, and just straight zip > dropbox as well. Just curious what other linux sysops use.

rsync, borg backup or other tools might fit the bill. I used TAR for a long time with my Mystic board - until it became too large for that to work easily...

After migrating 2oFB from a Raspberry Pi to a proper Dell server machine, running ProxMox Hypervisor, I've added another machine that runs ProxMox Backup Server. I make daily, weekly and other backups using that PBS system now - its super easy and I can recover from any issue that the gods might throw at me... I think. :P



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May be a stupid question, but what do ya'll use for automated backups
for your BBS?

I have a weekly, monthly, and yearly jobs (in addition to daily). In fact if you go to https://jackphla.sh there should be a link to the mod I wrote for this. Sorry typing from mobile and don't have the exact link handy.

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With most BBSes having them live in their own directory makes this so much easier, you don't have to worry about files scattered about the filesystem.

100%. Also, I keep my doors and my files (for download) in completely different directories so I'm not constantly backing those up as well.

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Re: Automated BBS Backup (linux)
By: j0HNNY a1PHA to All on Wed Dec 13 2023 05:08 pm

May be a stupid question, but what do ya'll use for automated backups for your BBS?

I'm setting up `luckyBackup` on Ubuntu to a second drive, but I've used rsync in the past, and just straight zip > dropbox as well. Just curious what other linux sysops use.

I use restic.

So a daily cron runs a restic script that pauses my docker container and then sends a backup to a S3 bucket on my nas. Probably only takes a few minutes at most...


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May be a stupid question, but what do ya'll use for automated backups
for your BBS?

I use an old linux utility program called mirrordir. I am not sure where
you'd find it for now as debian quit including it years ago.



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I have a weekly, monthly, and yearly jobs (in addition to daily). In
fact if you go to https://jackphla.sh there should be a link to the
mod I wrote for this. Sorry typing from mobile and don't have the
exact link handy.

Found it! Those scripts will work awesome for generating local backups.
Then maybe it's just a case of wiring up rsync to move the files to
the remote machine for redundancy...

esc's backup program for Mystic, but easily adapted to any directory:

https://jackphla.sh/files/dem-new/esc-msbk.zip

thanks esc


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I use restic.

So a daily cron runs a restic script that pauses my docker container
and then sends a backup to a S3 bucket on my nas. Probably only takes
a few minutes at most...

This looks pretty awesome and easy. thanks, deon
https://restic.net/


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I use an old linux utility program called mirrordir. I am not sure
where
you'd find it for now as debian quit including it years ago.

Cool -- found an old article on it, but yeah doesn't look like it's
easily installable in Ubuntu 22... thank you! https://www.linuxjournal.com/article/6564


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rsync, borg backup or other tools might fit the bill. I used TAR for a
long time with my Mystic board - until it became too large for that to
work easily...

Borg looks interesting, seems it takes a 'diff' approach to backups, just storing what's changed for efficiency. Thanks, Paulie! https://www.borgbackup.org/


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On my Debian 12 machine, I use Veeam Free Agent, on my other Debian 11
VM's I use Active Backup for Business from my Xpenology NAS...

Nice, Veeam Free Agent does full instance backups, which I should
probably do as well. My BBS machine is supposed to be 'exclusive' to BBS software related stuff, but in reality there's a bunch of other stuff on
there I could back up. Thanks!
https://www.veeam.com/linux-backup-free.html



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Cool -- found an old article on it, but yeah doesn't look like it's
easily installable in Ubuntu 22... thank you! https://www.linuxjournal.com/article/6564

Yeah, you'd have to find the source, hope it was the most recent/last
version, and then compile it.



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On 14 Dec 2023, j0HNNY a1PHA said the following...

Nice, Veeam Free Agent does full instance backups, which I should
probably do as well. My BBS machine is supposed to be 'exclusive' to BBS software related stuff, but in reality there's a bunch of other stuff on there I could back up. Thanks! https://www.veeam.com/linux-backup-free.html

Actually, I have my Free Agent doing a full backup every Sunday and incrementals every other day. I usually keep a months worth of full backups, why I have no idea. LOL My Synology backs up daily also and I only keep 5 backups from there.. My File libraries are different, I keep those files in a seperate directory on my NAS and do a mirror of those from one NAS to the other. Since they don't change much only nodelists etc get changed, mirroring takes no more then a minute or so.. It's all different things to look at..

Al

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El 13/12/23 a las 22:08, j0HNNY a1PHA escribió:

May be a stupid question, but what do ya'll use for automated backups for your BBS?

Back in the day we were lucky to have spare HDs, or even ZIP drives. So much easier today.

I'm setting up `luckyBackup` on Ubuntu to a second drive, but I've used rsync in the past, and just straight zip > dropbox as well. Just curious what other linux sysops use.
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apt install backupninja
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