Hello apam!

26 Mar 17 11:30, you wrote to all:

Is it all headless and administered by ssh? Or do you have a desktop
on it? Or do you remote X into it?

Headless via SSH.

I guess it would be best to do curses but I like the idea of graphical point and click setup like some windows BBSes..

Something using a web browser?

Shawn

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Hi Apam!

26 Mar 2017 11:30, from apam -> All:

I was wondering what those who run BBSes on Linux use as an interface?
Is it all headless and administered by ssh? Or do you have a desktop
on it? Or do you remote X into it?

I am not running a BBS.
But if I would, I would only use ASCII cfg files (with comments explaining the options).
As an unnecessary option a ncurses "GUI" could be added.

Why would somebody use X on a server??

Just my 2 cents from a non BBS person.

CU, Ricsi

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Richard Menedetter said....

But if I would, I would only use ASCII cfg files (with comments explaining the options).

I have ASCII ini files that configure everything. Not many comments though, but I wrote up documentation on each of the switches in the wiki.

As an unnecessary option a ncurses "GUI" could be added.

Yep, this is what I have been doing.

Why would somebody use X on a server??

To run X applications? You can forward X11 over ssh (or directly) to your desktop. I use it for configuring DOS doors in dosbox.

Andrew
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Hi Apam!

02 Apr 2017 21:25, from apam -> Richard Menedetter:

Why would somebody use X on a server??

To run X applications?

Again ... on a server??
;))

You can forward X11 over ssh (or directly) to your desktop.

I know ... I just do not see a use for that in a server environment ;)
But it is a great thing if it is needed.

CU, Ricsi

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Richard Menedetter said....

Hi Apam!

02 Apr 2017 21:25, from apam -> Richard Menedetter:

Why would somebody use X on a server??

To run X applications?

Again ... on a server??
;))

Like i said before i need x to configure dosbox doors. Im sure there are other use cases where an x application might be useful. I'm not saying run gnome or something like that on it.

Synchronet has a gtk based monitor too.

Anyway some people might be running their bbs on their desktop. After all plenty of people run bbses on desktop operating system like windows.

Andrew
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Hi Apam!

03 Apr 2017 02:31, from apam -> Richard Menedetter:

Why would somebody use X on a server??

To run X applications?

Again ... on a server??
;))

Like i said before i need x to configure dosbox doors.

Please take the smileys into regard above ;))))

CU, Ricsi

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Richard Menedetter said....

Hi Apam!

03 Apr 2017 02:31, from apam -> Richard Menedetter:

Why would somebody use X on a server??

To run X applications?

Again ... on a server??
;))

Like i said before i need x to configure dosbox doors.

Please take the smileys into regard above ;))))

Ok, but I don't get the joke?

Andrew
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You can forward X11 over ssh (or directly) to your desktop.

Remotely accessing a GUI should be avoided in all but the rarest exceptions. 1. On a server/non desktop, running a graphical system uses system resources that are better used for the server's intended purpose.
2. KISS - on a server the more processes/applications that are running the harder it is to troubleshoot a problem. Limit the scope of probem sources.
3. When you remotely access a graphical environment (mouse and/or keyboard) bandwidth and latency lower the accuracy and response time of user actions making mistakes much more likely.

At work, I manage over a thousand servers and I avoid running an OS GUI environment whenever it is possible.

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You can forward X11 over ssh (or directly) to your desktop.

Remotely accessing a GUI should be avoided in all but the rarest exceptions. 1. On a server/non desktop, running a graphical system uses

After sending this off, I realized that the way I wrote this might come
accross as being judgemental which I did not intend at all. I just wanted to point out that having to accessing a GUI remotely can be very frustrating.

This of course does not apply at all to running the bbs on a local desktop.

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karl wrote to karl <=-

After sending this off, I realized that the way I wrote this might come accross as being judgemental which I did not intend at all. I just
wanted to point out that having to accessing a GUI remotely can be very frustrating.

For me, it works OK on a LAN, but I still prefer to not have to do it if I can avoid it.

This of course does not apply at all to running the bbs on a local desktop.

True! :)


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Hello Andrew,

apam wrote to All <=-

Hi

I was wondering what those who run BBSes on Linux use as an interface?
Is it all headless and administered by ssh? Or do you have a desktop on it? Or do you remote X into it?

Remote SSH at the mo, which is IMHO the best way. Remote X is a faff, and rather slow over sub-standard 802.11 b/g...

I've been thinkning of making a configuration program for Magicka, and
was thinking of doing it in QT, but there's not much point if everyone
is headless..

I guess it would be best to do curses but I like the idea of graphical point and click setup like some windows BBSes..

Curses is good for initial setup stuff, like Synchronet's rather impressive
set of tools. If you really want to have a pointy-clicky interface, then I would advocate for a web-based one.


Regards,
Jan Henkins

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I guess it would be best to do curses but I like the idea of graphical point and click setup like some windows BBSes..

Curses is good for initial setup stuff, like Synchronet's rather impressive set of tools.

Like debian's installer, too. I tried the GUI one once and went right back
to the console version. ;)

Mike


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