• Emulators on a Pi4

    From Mike Powell@1337:3/103 to ALL on Monday, December 28, 2020 14:40:00
    If you install Virtualbox on a Pi4 running raspian, are you able to emulate/load an intel OS as a virtual machine or can you only emulate OSes
    that can run on an ARM?


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  • From MeaTLoTioN@1337:1/101 to Mike Powell on Monday, December 28, 2020 22:56:59
    On 28 Dec 2020, Mike Powell said the following...

    If you install Virtualbox on a Pi4 running raspian, are you able to emulate/load an intel OS as a virtual machine or can you only emulate OSesthat can run on an ARM?

    Hi Mike,

    I am not an expert, but I believe that on a Pi, you can have ARM based OSes in VM's. I think I read somewhere that you "could" emulate x86, but I don't remember where I read that, and I can't find it right now in a quick Google search.

    If it IS possible, I would imagine that it would be horrendously slow as the reduced instruction set that ARM has, would have to emulate extra functions that hardware would normally handle in x86, but do it in software.

    If I find anything about x86 emulation on ARM or Pi specifically, I will let you know, or if you find out first I'd like to know for sure too.

    I bet Deon can answer this better than I could. I'm certain he could.

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  • From deon@1337:2/101 to Mike Powell on Tuesday, December 29, 2020 10:04:56
    Re: Emulators on a Pi4
    By: Mike Powell to ALL on Mon Dec 28 2020 02:40 pm

    Howdy,

    If you install Virtualbox on a Pi4 running raspian, are you able to
    emulate/load an intel OS as a virtual machine
    or can you only emulate OSes
    that can run on an ARM?

    I've not used Virtualbox, but I've used qemu and dosbox to run DOS and it works


































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































    well.

    And with the Pi the RTE200 errors were not a problem...

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  • From acn@1337:1/108.1 to Mike Powell on Tuesday, December 29, 2020 19:46:00
    Am 28.12.20 schrieb Mike Powell@1337:3/103 in TQW_RASPBPI:

    Hallo Mike,

    If you install Virtualbox on a Pi4 running raspian, are you able to emulate/load an intel OS as a virtual machine or can you only emulate OSes that can run on an ARM?

    Via "virtualization", you always get the same kind of architecture in your VMs as your host system has.
    So on x86/amd64, you can install those VMs - and on ARM, you can install
    ARM VMs, eg. on a RasPi.

    If you would like to use "alien" architectures, you have to use an
    emulator instead of virtualization.
    There are such available for RasPi systems, I think qemu should do it.
    For DOS systems, you could try dosbox.

    I think there also has been a paid x86 emulator for the RasPi.

    Regards,
    Anna

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  • From Mike Powell@1337:3/103 to ACN on Tuesday, December 29, 2020 16:06:00
    If you would like to use "alien" architectures, you have to use an
    emulator instead of virtualization.
    There are such available for RasPi systems, I think qemu should do it.
    For DOS systems, you could try dosbox.

    Thank you, Anna. I was thinking that might be the case. Lately, I have
    been toying with the idea of running an AROS based distribution in a
    virtual box or emulator. As AROS is for x86, it sounds like I would need to install it on such. :)


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  • From acn@1337:1/108.1 to Mike Powell on Thursday, December 31, 2020 09:51:00
    Am 29.12.20 schrieb Mike Powell@1337:3/103 in TQW_RASPBPI:

    Hallo Mike,

    Thank you, Anna. I was thinking that might be the case. Lately, I have been toying with the idea of running an AROS based distribution in a virtual box or emulator. As AROS is for x86, it sounds like I would need to install it on such. :)

    Isn't there also AROS for 68k, which might work with Amibian or an Amiga emulator for the Raspi?
    Or did you specifically mean AROS/x86 that you want to test?

    Regards,
    Anna

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  • From Mike Powell@1337:3/103 to ACN on Thursday, December 31, 2020 11:23:00
    Thank you, Anna. I was thinking that might be the case. Lately, I have been toying with the idea of running an AROS based distribution in a virtual box or emulator. As AROS is for x86, it sounds like I would need to install it on such. :)

    Isn't there also AROS for 68k, which might work with Amibian or an Amiga emulator for the Raspi?
    Or did you specifically mean AROS/x86 that you want to test?

    Specifically, I noticed that there is a new release of Icaros, which is
    based on AROS and from what I can tell is only for the x86.

    Maybe I should do some specific web research on how to emulate an Amiga on a
    Pi and go from there instead of starting out with an OS of choice. :)


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