• Who said it - Trump or MLK?

    From Mike Miller@1:154/30 to All on Sunday, January 19, 2025 23:17:27
    Reprinted from McSweeny's - https://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/who-said-it-donald-trump-or-martin-luther-king-jr

    Who Said It: Donald Trump or Martin Luther King Jr.?
    by Carlos Greaves

    1. "If you can't fly, then run. If you can't run, then walk. If you can't walk, then crawl. But by all means, keep moving."

    2. "Why would Kim Jong Un insult me by calling me 'old,' when I would NEVER call him 'short and fat'? Oh well, I try so hard to be his friend - and maybe someday that will happen!"

    3. "An individual has not started living until he can rise above the narrow confines of his individualistic concerns to the broader concerns of all humanity."

    4. "Nobody knew health care could be so complicated."

    5. "When evil men plot, good men must plan. When evil men burn and bomb, good men must build and bind. When evil men shout ugly words of hatred, good men must commit themselves to the glories of love."

    6. "The Continental Army suffered a bitter winter of Valley Forge, found glory across the waters of the Delaware, and seized victory from Cornwallis of Yorktown. Our army manned the air, it rammed the ramparts, it took over the airports, it did everything it had to do."

    7. "Capitalism was built on the exploitation of Black slaves and continues to thrive on the exploitation of the poor, both Black and white, both here and abroad."

    8. "This is Martin Luther King on steroids... I told that to [North Carolina gubernatorial candidate and self-proclaimed "Black Nazi" Mark Robinson], I said I think you're better than Martin Luther King. I think you're Martin Luther King times two."

    9. "Freedom is never voluntarily given by the oppressor; it must be demanded by the oppressed."

    10. "I've got to be the cleanest-I think I'm the most honest human being, perhaps, that God has ever created."

    11. "It is a cruel jest to say to a bootless man that he ought to lift himself by his own bootstraps."

    12. "I see the disinfectant where it knocks it out in a minute, one minute. Is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside, or almost a cleaning? Because you see, it gets in the lungs, and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it'd be interesting to check that."

    13. "Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that."

    14. "I would like to extend my best wishes to all, even the haters and losers, on this special date, September 11th."

    15. "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. We are caught in an inescapable network of mutuality, tied in a single garment of destiny."

    16. "When I said that Hillary Clinton got 'schlonged' by Obama, it meant got beaten badly. The media knows this. Often used word in politics!"

    17. "I refuse to accept the view that mankind is so tragically bound to the starless midnight of racism and war that the bright daybreak of peace and brotherhood can never become a reality."

    18. "If you look at Martin Luther King, when he did his speech, his great speech, and you look at ours, same real estate. Same everything. Same number of people, if not, we had more. And they said, 'He had a million people,' but I had 25,000 people. But when you look at the exact same picture, everything's the same, because it was the fountains, the whole thing, all the way back from Lincoln to Washington. And you look at it, and you look at the picture of his crowd, my crowd, we actually had more people. They said I had 25,000, and he had a million people. And I'm okay with it because I liked Dr. Martin Luther King."

    19. "I have a dream that one day this nation will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed: 'We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men are created equal.' I have a dream that one day, on the red hills of Georgia, the sons of former slaves and the sons of former slave owners will be able to sit down together at the table of brotherhood. I have a dream that one day, even the state of Mississippi, a state sweltering with the heat of injustice, sweltering with the heat of oppression, will be transformed into an oasis of freedom and justice. I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character."

    20. "I'm the least racist person you have ever interviewed."

    - - -
    Just in case you need an answer key:
    Even numbers: Trump
    Odd numbers: MLK Jr.

    - - -

    Mike


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/202 to Mike Miller on Sunday, January 19, 2025 23:04:56
    Just in case you need an answer key:
    Even numbers: Trump
    Odd numbers: MLK Jr.

    Here's something that Trump and MLK both have in common: A dream of equality.

    Here's something that makes Democrats the opposite of MLK: slavery, segregation, BLM, and DEI.

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  • From Mike Miller@1:154/30 to Aaron Thomas on Monday, January 20, 2025 11:02:23

    Hello Aaron!

    20 Mar 70 05:06, you wrote to me:

    Just in case you need an answer key:
    Even numbers: Trump
    Odd numbers: MLK Jr.

    Here's something that Trump and MLK both have in common: A dream of equality.

    In Trump's case, he just wants equality amongst billionaires. They're a higher class of person, you know. Unless you have enough money to drop a million dollars into his innauguration fund, then to fly to Mar-a-Lago for a face-to-face meeting so you can get him to do a 180 degree turn on a topic
    (Like he did with Tik Tok, for instance)




    Mike


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to MIKE MILLER on Tuesday, January 21, 2025 08:37:00
    In Trump's case, he just wants equality amongst billionaires. They're a higher
    class of person, you know.

    Unfortunately, that just makes him like most every other politician in the
    US these days... certainly most any with aspirations of going to Washington.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/202 to Mike Miller on Tuesday, January 21, 2025 10:27:39
    Here's something that Trump and MLK both have in common: A dream of equality.

    In Trump's case, he just wants equality amongst billionaires. They're a higher class of person, you know. Unless you have enough money to drop

    He just signed an order ending DEI in federal workplaces. This ensures equal opportunities for all based on merit. (IOW: equality.)

    higher class of person, you know. Unless you have enough money to drop
    a million dollars into his innauguration fund, then to fly to Mar-a-Lago for a face-to-face meeting so you can get him to do a 180 degree turn on
    a topic (Like he did with Tik Tok, for instance)

    (I just debunked this for you and you're welcome.) And the TikTok thing, well, now America owns 50% of it. Not Trump. Not Elon Musk. America. You're welcome.

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  • From Mike Miller@1:154/30.1 to Aaron Thomas on Tuesday, January 21, 2025 20:16:07

    (I just debunked this for you and you're welcome.) And the TikTok thing, well, now America owns 50% of it. Not Trump. Not Elon Musk. America. You're welcome.

    You're making shit up now? Because that's a flat out lie.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/202 to Mike Miller on Tuesday, January 21, 2025 20:10:02
    (I just debunked this for you and you're welcome.) And the TikTok thi well, now America owns 50% of it. Not Trump. Not Elon Musk. America. You're welcome.

    You're making shit up now? Because that's a flat out lie.

    I didn't have the facts straight about that, so I apologize. (It was a suggestion that Trump made, and not a deal that was discussed.)

    But I was right about this other part of our conversation:

    In Trump's case, he just wants equality amongst billionaires. They're a higher class of person, you know. Unless you have enough money to drop

    "He just signed an order ending DEI in federal workplaces. This ensures equal opportunities for all based on merit. (IOW: equality.)"

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Wednesday, January 22, 2025 09:09:00
    And the TikTok thing, well,
    now America owns 50% of it. Not Trump. Not Elon Musk. America. You're welcome.

    Source???


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  • From Mike Miller@1:154/30 to Aaron Thomas on Wednesday, January 22, 2025 08:41:08

    Hello Aaron!

    23 Mar 70 02:36, you wrote to me:

    (I just debunked this for you and you're welcome.) And the
    TikTok thi
    well, now America owns 50% of it. Not Trump. Not Elon Musk.
    America.
    You're welcome.

    You're making shit up now? Because that's a flat out lie.

    I didn't have the facts straight about that, so I apologize. (It was a suggestion that Trump made, and not a deal that was discussed.)

    There's a big difference between a suggestion, and making a claim that it's something that's done and in place.

    4 years ago, Trump was one of the most vocal people towards a ban of TikTok. But because the CEO of ByteDance, and a bunch of other people who have money invested in it gave Trump money, he's now done a complete reversal of that. Nothing else has changed.

    America should NOT be in the business of "owning" businesses that have nothing to do with providing public services or running our government. And you should not be excited about this prospect, becuase it goes aganst the very tenants of capitalism.


    But I was right about this other part of our conversation:

    In Trump's case, he just wants equality amongst billionaires.
    They're a higher class of person, you know. Unless you have
    enough money to drop

    "He just signed an order ending DEI in federal workplaces. This
    ensures equal opportunities for all based on merit. (IOW: equality.)"


    You'll note that I cut that out of the other message, because I had (and still have) no desire to explain that DEI is not the boogeyman that your cult leaders have told you it is



    Mike


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/202 to Mike Powell on Wednesday, January 22, 2025 10:17:45
    And the TikTok thing, well,
    now America owns 50% of it. Not Trump. Not Elon Musk. America. You're welcome.

    Source???

    I was wrong. It was something Trump suggested. But he suggested it while he was signing a pile of executive orders and that's why I misunderstood.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/202 to Mike Miller on Wednesday, January 22, 2025 10:40:35
    I didn't have the facts straight about that, so I apologize. (It was suggestion that Trump made, and not a deal that was discussed.)

    There's a big difference between a suggestion, and making a claim that it's something that's done and in place.

    He was in the process of signing a bunch of executive orders when he made the comment, and I was hosting a celebration party at the time. We were talking, drinking, and not hearing the TV very well. (I'm still in celebration mode!)

    4 years ago, Trump was one of the most vocal people towards a ban of TikTok. But because the CEO of ByteDance, and a bunch of other people
    who have money invested in it gave Trump money, he's now done a complete reversal of that. Nothing else has changed.

    He has been collecting a few lousy friends lately.

    America should NOT be in the business of "owning" businesses that have nothing to do with providing public services or running our government. And you should not be excited about this prospect, becuase it goes
    aganst the very tenants of capitalism.

    I agree with you on that.

    You'll note that I cut that out of the other message, because I had
    (and still have) no desire to explain that DEI is not the boogeyman that your cult leaders have told you it is

    I have my own perception of DEI. My state (NY) has made it into law, and businesses in this state are forced to adhere to it. (That's why nobody knows what they're doing.)

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to MIKE MILLER on Thursday, January 23, 2025 09:35:00
    4 years ago, Trump was one of the most vocal people towards a ban of TikTok. But because the CEO of ByteDance, and a bunch of other people who have money invested in it gave Trump money, he's now done a complete reversal of that. Nothing else has changed.

    Exactly. IMHO, he was not wrong about TikTok initially, either. There has been news recently that TT is in trouble in the EU for sending user data
    to China, where TT (and all businesses) are partially owned by the government.

    That was the initial concern here in the US that seems to have been lost in
    the "but free speech" and "livelihood" arguments for keeping it.

    America should NOT be in the business of "owning" businesses that have nothing
    to do with providing public services or running our government. And you should
    not be excited about this prospect, becuase it goes aganst the very tenants of
    capitalism.

    Agreed. That is how China does it.


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