Alrighty, here we go, this one ought to have it in there... was set at the path
I expected so the concatenation wasn't...

Spec

PS: And now because I edited the message after completion, this is going to have two on it.
--- SuperBBS v1.17-3 (Eval)
* Origin: Scrawled in haste at The Lower Planes (21:3/106.10)

Alrighty, here we go, this one ought to have it in there...

I forsee one problem... now it feels that an aborted message has text in it, because its got the TZ in it, and imports it as an otherwise empty message.

Spec


--- SuperBBS v1.17-3 (Eval)
* Origin: <Shoot'n the breeze on The Lower Planes> (21:3/106.10)

On Wed, 23 Oct 2019 18:16:00 ++110
"Spectre -> Al" <10@106.3.21> wrote:

Alrighty, here we go, this one ought to have it in there... was set at the

path

I expected so the concatenation wasn't...

Spec

PS: And now because I edited the message after completion, this is going to have two on it.

Wow, it worked, kind of. the correct line would be
TZUTC: 1100
not
TZUTC: +1100

(I think I used +1100 in a previous message, sorry)

I only see one TZUTC kludge

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On Wed, 23 Oct 2019 18:20:00 ++110
"Spectre -> Spectre" <10@106.3.21> wrote:

Alrighty, here we go, this one ought to have it in there...

I forsee one problem... now it feels that an aborted message has text in

it,

because its got the TZ in it, and imports it as an otherwise empty message.

How did you do it? I tried it in a DOSBox, but I realized I forgot everything about DOS, BAT files, ...

What about a simple check if the MSGTMP file is empty before adding the kludge line?

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How did you do it? I tried it in a DOSBox, but I realized I forgot everything about DOS, BAT files,

It wasn't that hard, although I don't know any batchfile logic to test for an empty file. I'm using...

cd\iedit
iceedit.exe /D:F:\SBBS\ /N:%1
cd\sbbs
type tzutc.txt > new.txt
type msgtmp >> new.txt
move new.txt msgtmp

Just in case theres still a new.txt the first single > should overwrite the existing file. The second with >> adds the edited message to new.txt and then to help ensure theres no rubbish left behind we move new.txt over the original msgtmp. The %1 is only the node number from the batch files command line during
calling.

If anyone knows how to test for an empty file in a DOS batch file, I'm all ears.

Spec


*** THE READER V4.50 [freeware]
--- SuperBBS v1.17-3 (Eval)
* Origin: Scrawled in haste at The Lower Planes (21:3/106.10)

Re: TZ again
By: Spectre to Oli on Thu Oct 24 2019 09:39 am

If anyone knows how to test for an empty file in a DOS batch file, I'm all ears.

StackOverflow has a couple of examples...

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/11225581/how-to-check-if-a-file-is-not-empt
y-in-batch

set size=0
for /f %%i in ("file.txt") do set size=%%~zi
if %size% gtr 0 echo Not empty
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On Thu, 24 Oct 2019 09:39:00 +1100
"Spectre -> Oli" <10@106.3.21> wrote:

How did you do it? I tried it in a DOSBox, but I realized I forgot
everything about DOS, BAT files,

It wasn't that hard, although I don't know any batchfile logic to test for

an

empty file. I'm using...

cd\iedit
iceedit.exe /D:F:\SBBS\ /N:%1
cd\sbbs
type tzutc.txt > new.txt
type msgtmp >> new.txt
move new.txt msgtmp

Thanks, I didn't use the right parameters for iceedit. No wonder it didn't work
:)

Just in case theres still a new.txt the first single > should overwrite the existing file. The second with >> adds the edited message to new.txt and

then

to help ensure theres no rubbish left behind we move new.txt over the

original

msgtmp.

I think (but haven't tested it), that "type" will add a <CR><LF> to the end of the line. In Fido it should be a <CR> only. Maybe SuperBBS changes that anyway.
Other software should also ignore the <LF>.

It's most likely an unimportant detail, but you could use

a tzutc.txt file with
<SOH>TZUTC: 1100<CR>

and

copy /b tzutc.txt + msgtmp new.txt

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a tzutc.txt file with
<SOH> TZUTC: 1100<CR>
copy /b tzutc.txt + msgtmp new.txt

My tzutc.txt file is pretty much just that. But I didn't have any joy with copy
coming up with a reliable result. So I went back to reliable redirection :)

Spec


--- SuperBBS v1.17-3 (Eval)
* Origin: <Shoot'n the breeze on The Lower Planes> (21:3/106.10)

StackOverflow has a couple of examples...

I gave up looking online for answers to DOS batch files. Most of the information I come across is for Windows shells and quite often either doesn't work or not as expected...

set size=0 for /f %%i in ("file.txt") do set size=%%~zi
if %size% gtr 0 echo Not empty

Chuckle, I don't know what thats doing, or how it does it :) I'll try it some time though. Ta.

Spec


--- SuperBBS v1.17-3 (Eval)
* Origin: <Shoot'n the breeze on The Lower Planes> (21:3/106.10)

Re: TZ again
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Spectre on Wed Oct 23 2019 04:39 pm

If anyone knows how to test for an empty file in a DOS batch file,
I'm all ears.

StackOverflow has a couple of examples...

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/11225581/how-to-check-if-a-file-is-not -empt
y-in-batch

set size=0
for /f %%i in ("file.txt") do set size=%%~zi
if %size% gtr 0 echo Not empty

It seems to me one of the troubles of looking online for DOS batch file help is
that many people seem to confuse DOS for the Windows command prompt, and I think modern Windows batch file language is somewhat different (a little more flexible/robust, perhaps) in some cases than classic DOS batch file language. So while someone may say it's a solution for a DOS batch file, it may only work
in modern versions of Windows.

Nightfox
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If anyone knows how to test for an empty file in a DOS batch file, I'm
all ears.

I found this:

https://www.experts-exchange.com/questions/21393712/Check-if-file-is-empty.html

I haven't tested it, because there is no FC command in DOSBox.


--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
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I haven't tested it, because there is no FC command in DOSBox.

Theres an FC in DOS6.x so this is one that should be easy to do.. Its an external command, so you could just copy it into your dosbox to try. Worst case it gives an incorrect dos version and quits.

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*** THE READER V4.50 [freeware]
--- SuperBBS v1.17-3 (Eval)
* Origin: Scrawled in haste at The Lower Planes (21:3/106.10)

Re: TZ again
By: Spectre to Oli on Fri Oct 25 2019 10:12 am

I haven't tested it, because there is no FC command in DOSBox.

Theres an FC in DOS6.x so this is one that should be easy to do.. Its an external command, so you could just copy it into your dosbox to try. Worst case it gives an incorrect dos version and quits.

If that's the error I'm thinking of, I remember a command in MS-DOS (5.0 and above, I think?) that tells it to report a certain DOS version number so that programs checking for a specific MS-DOS version will run.

Nightfox
--- SBBSecho 3.10-Win32
* Origin: Digital Distortion: digdist.synchro.net (21:1/137)

I haven't tested it, because there is no FC command in DOSBox.

Worst case it gives an incorrect dos version and quits.

If that's the error I'm thinking of, I remember a command in MS-DOS (5.0 and above, I think?) that tells it to report a certain DOS version

I recall that too, I don't recall what it was now. But it didn't fix every problem. Some things just weren't compatible. I also don't know if DOSbox supports it either. Ahh setver....

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*** THE READER V4.50 [freeware]
--- SuperBBS v1.17-3 (Eval)
* Origin: Scrawled in haste at The Lower Planes (21:3/106.10)

Alrighty, here we go, this one ought to have it in there... was set at the path
I expected so the concatenation wasn't...

Spec

PS: And now because I edited the message after completion, this is going to have two on it.
--- SuperBBS v1.17-3 (Eval)
* Origin: Scrawled in haste at The Lower Planes (21:3/106.10)

Alrighty, here we go, this one ought to have it in there...

I forsee one problem... now it feels that an aborted message has text in it, because its got the TZ in it, and imports it as an otherwise empty message.

Spec


--- SuperBBS v1.17-3 (Eval)
* Origin: <Shoot'n the breeze on The Lower Planes> (21:3/106.10)

a tzutc.txt file with
<SOH> TZUTC: 1100<CR>
copy /b tzutc.txt + msgtmp new.txt

My tzutc.txt file is pretty much just that. But I didn't have any joy with copy
coming up with a reliable result. So I went back to reliable redirection :)

Spec


--- SuperBBS v1.17-3 (Eval)
* Origin: <Shoot'n the breeze on The Lower Planes> (21:3/106.10)

StackOverflow has a couple of examples...

I gave up looking online for answers to DOS batch files. Most of the information I come across is for Windows shells and quite often either doesn't work or not as expected...

set size=0 for /f %%i in ("file.txt") do set size=%%~zi
if %size% gtr 0 echo Not empty

Chuckle, I don't know what thats doing, or how it does it :) I'll try it some time though. Ta.

Spec


--- SuperBBS v1.17-3 (Eval)
* Origin: <Shoot'n the breeze on The Lower Planes> (21:3/106.10)