I preferred driving to uni than taking 3 buses, but a good rail syste beats cars.
When I commuted into San Francisco, I had a couple of options.
There is an elevated electric train called BART that runs underneath the bay. Skips the traffic, but frequent brealdowns and packed cars.
I did a casual commute from across the bay. Drivers would pick up 2 passengers, then get to use the free commute lane. Everyone wins. They'd drop off at the SF Transbay Terminal, a bus hub that was conveniently 1 block from my office. I took a bus back home from that terminal that dropped me off a block from home. Cheap, effective, and they started offering wifi.
Driving could be a nightmare - stop and go traffic in the morning going through the toll booth, and sometimes 45 minutes of bumper to bumper traffic to get onto the bridge.
The holy grail was the ferry service. Service was limited but ran
hourly. I drove to the ferry terminal, then took a bus transfer; they'd let you take one bus ride per ticket to get into San Francisco.
Mornings they had coffee, bagels, and donuts. The evening commute had
beer and wine. Sitting on the upper deck in the summertime with a drink watching the sun go down under the SF skyline was a highlight.
You had enough room that you could hunker down and get 40 minutes worth
of work done - I arranged with my boss to get out of work an hour early based on working on the ferry.
boraxman wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
Sounds pretty sweet, and a pretty good idea here. Making the commute actually part of your working day. We "work from home", so why now
have "Work while you commute". So even if you are commuting an hour
each way, that hour could part of your working day if you are actually able to get work done. Then when you're there, you can have your
physical face to face meetings.
Designing cities so that we are forced to sink literal months and years of our leaves moving back and forth was one of the colossally stupid mistakes
Sounds pretty sweet, and a pretty good idea here. Making the commute actually part of your working day. We "work from home", so why now have "Work while you commute". So even if you are commuting an hour each way, that hour could part of your working day if you are actuall able to get work done. Then when you're there, you can have your physical face to face meetings.
A friend of mine justifies his self-driving Tesla that way - he owns a company and drives 1 1/2 hours each way occasionally to the office.
He was pulled over using a cell phone while the car was driving and cautioned that he needed to have the phone mounted on the dash, even if the car was driving. :)
You could look at it as saving your hourly rate's worth of salary, or
the opportunity cost of being able to make dinner with your kids, spend time outdoors with your partner, etc.
My current gig is going all remote, I don't know how I'll feel when this gig runs its course and I have to drive in again.
Designing cities so that we are forced to sink literal months and yea our leaves moving back and forth was one of the colossally stupid mis
I don't think that was done with either design or intent. Its called urban sprawl. Until very recently we've (Australia) haven't been good
at higher density living. Every man and dog wanted his own home on a quarter acre block, that and ongoing land releases at the fringes by the peanuts in charge have gotten us to where we are now.
Spec
It nevertheless did happen. Houses are built with roads, but lack public transport. Somewhere in the planning is the assumption that the car will be the first, the primary mode of transport and anything else a bonus.
poindexter FORTRAN wrote to boraxman <=-
He was pulled over using a cell phone while the car was driving and cautioned that he needed to have the phone mounted on the dash, even if the car was driving. :)
Even with the self-driving cars, you do have to pay attention just in
case you need to overide a decision it has made?
Even with the self-driving cars, you do have to pay attention just in
case you need to overide a decision it has made?
On 08-08-22 22:36, boraxman wrote to Spectre <=-
Then you have many European towns which were designed around a
pedestrian life, more human friendly.
I did was the suburban dream when I was younger, but it is in reality a nightmare.
On 08-08-22 22:56, Spectre wrote to boraxman <=-
It nevertheless did happen. Houses are built with roads, but lack public transport. Somewhere in the planning is the assumption that the car will be the first, the primary mode of transport and anything else a bonus.
Sure but its still sprawl and poor or no planning. Developers are only expected to provide roads. The Chief Peanut has to provide public transport its beyong the legal remit of any developer.
There was complaints recently about a development somewhere west of the city, that the railway line on the plan and the primary school never arrived. But the developer can't influence when the government will
ever get a round-tuit or if they ever will at all.
On 08-08-22 10:25, Blue White wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
I thought there had been some accidents recently because people mistook the self-driving cars as being completely autonomous so they didn't
react when the car also didn't react.
On 08-08-22 12:07, esc wrote to Blue White <=-
Even with the self-driving cars, you do have to pay attention just in
case you need to overide a decision it has made?
In the industry these are called "disengagements". In an ideal world,
each of these events are studied and understood, and findings are used
to refine the autonomy stack. I can't speak to how well every company
does this, however.
The interesting thing about autonomy is that industry knows it's a foregone conclusion that we're headed that way, but consumers actually fear the tech so there is no consumer driven market push to get this
tech developed. So in a sense it is in a very weird spot. Additionally, every company goes about autonomy in a different way...for example,
Tesla /only/ uses cameras, which seems to be working pretty well for
them, however I don't think I would feel comfortable with actual "autonomy" unless there were additional on-vehicle sensors like LIDAR.
The truly odd thing about the industry and autonomy is that companies
are competing to have the best autonomous platform, however I'm of the opinion that proper autonomy should be a universal endeavor since safe on-road experience means everyone wins. I don't think we would ever go
the collective development route without government interference,
though.
Sure but its still sprawl and poor or no planning. Developers are only expected to provide roads. The Chief Peanut has to provide public transport its beyong the legal remit of any developer.
There was complaints recently about a development somewhere west of the city, that the railway line on the plan and the primary school never arrived. But the developer can't influence when the government will ever get a round-tuit or if they ever will at all.
Spec
Then you have many European towns which were designed around a pedestrian life, more human friendly.
I think human friendly designs that work for pedestrians and cyclists would be more liveable, with good public transport (bicycle friendly!)
for longer trips.
I did was the suburban dream when I was younger, but it is in reality nightmare.
Being ina smaller regional city, we can (for now) get asway with it, and I'm hoping to be able to use an ebike for most of my trips around town. Out here, cars are very useful for longer trips out of town - with a lot of rural destinations around, can't avoid the car, but within most of
the urban limits, I'd like to be able to use an ebike.
We've gotten so used to cars and roads, we don't realise
how much they have taken away from us. Right in front of
our house, are rivers of black which are too dangerous for
children to be near or on [...]
Walking some European cities, like the centre of Amsterdam is a delight [...]
I've been tempted to make the move to a smaller town, but
alas it is difficult in my profession. I cannot really
work from home, and the places I can work are in the big
smoke.
boraxman wrote to Spectre <=-
The suburban ideal was a manufactured want, a Post War design, a
promise of escape from what was then dysfunctional urban areas. Things are changing where some younger people are eschewing the surburban
"dream" for a more urban lifestyle, close to cafes and bars and culture and entertainment.
esc wrote to Blue White <=-
The truly odd thing about the industry and autonomy is that companies
are competing to have the best autonomous platform, however I'm of the opinion that proper autonomy should be a universal endeavor since safe on-road experience means everyone wins. I don't think we would ever go
the collective development route without government interference,
though.
Vk3jed wrote to Blue White <=-
On 08-08-22 10:25, Blue White wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
I thought there had been some accidents recently because people mistook the self-driving cars as being completely autonomous so they didn't
react when the car also didn't react.
Hmm, I think I'd rather remain in control - the autopilot of my subconscious is far more integrated than any car based system could be.
:)
I think human friendly designs that work for pedestrians and cyclists would more liveable, with good public transport (bicycle friendly!) for longer tri
I agree. Having two machines that are not using compatable autonomy systems that are heading for each other does not sound too safe. It would be good if they could communicate with each other to mutually prevent the issue, rather than having each one making decisions that the other would not be aware of.
On 08-09-22 23:47, boraxman wrote to Vk3jed <=-
We've gotten so used to cars and roads, we don't realise how much they have taken away from us. Right in front of our house, are rivers of
black which are too dangerous for children to be near or on, and we are stuck to walking the edges, having to carefully navigate our way across them to access our neighbours. The cars drone day and night, and in
some cases, the rivers are so large and wide that those across as are barely accessible.
Walking some European cities, like the centre of Amsterdam is a
delight. People can walk freely, mingle, socialise and meander at will.
The car in these spaces, if it is there, is a second class citizen.
These areas are for US, people, humans. Car based cities by comparison seem hostile, inhuman, we are guests there, barely belonging.
I've been tempted to make the move to a smaller town, but alas it is difficult in my profession. I cannot really work from home, and the places I can work are in the big smoke.
On 08-09-22 16:01, Blue White wrote to Vk3jed <=-
I don't see one in my future, either, until that is the only thing available. :)
On 08-09-22 18:44, Arelor wrote to Vk3jed <=-
There is a big problem that Urban Administrators don't understand, and that is that when you take something away from the population, you need
to provide them with an alternative. If you remove cars from a neighbourhood because you want it to be for pedestrians only, you need
to supply them with new means to move. Otherwise you get aberrant behaviors, such as car traffic being banned in certain areas, and
people having to walk from a faraway parking to their jobs through
crime ridden areas.
The war on cars is irrelevant, anyway. Soon, affordable energy will be
a thing of the past and we will be back at using bulls and charts for moving from a village to the next XD
I am very happy of being a rural redneck.
Denver, the city is mellow - crime is mostly low during the work day andI used to take the bus to school 2 hours each way. The funny thing was they implemented the express bus right after I graduated. hahhahaa
the public transportation is fun! I take light rail from the suburb live into LoDo, and walk to the office from there.
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You really need the town to be designed around public transport and rail for to work really well. Sadly they are designed around cars.
I preferred driving to uni than taking 3 buses, but a good rail system beats cars.
We've gotten so used to cars and roads, we don't realise
how much they have taken away from us. Right in front of
our house, are rivers of black which are too dangerous for
children to be near or on [...]
Walking some European cities, like the centre of Amsterdam is a deligh [...]
I've been tempted to make the move to a smaller town, but
alas it is difficult in my profession. I cannot really
work from home, and the places I can work are in the big
smoke.
Ironically, should you settle in a smaller town, you WILL need
to rely on a decent mode of transportation for anything
remotely important - like shopping, hospital, etc.
The suburban ideal was a manufactured want, a Post War design, a promise of escape from what was then dysfunctional urban areas. Thin are changing where some younger people are eschewing the surburban "dream" for a more urban lifestyle, close to cafes and bars and cultu and entertainment.
Or, in California, they're moving out to previously unavailable areas farther from urban areas - because they're working remotely now.
Bakersfield, once a town that people scoffed at, is apparently now becoming a thing. You could get a house with a nice lot for the price
of a San Francisco condo, and still commute in 1 day a week if you
needed to.
I think the trick is finding those little towns that have decent
internet.
We've gotten so used to cars and roads, we don't realise how much the have taken away from us. Right in front of our house, are rivers of black which are too dangerous for children to be near or on, and we a stuck to walking the edges, having to carefully navigate our way acro them to access our neighbours. The cars drone day and night, and in some cases, the rivers are so large and wide that those across as are barely accessible.
It's particularly obvious in major shopping centres. Ever notice how hostile many are to pedestrians, leaving them to run the gauntlet in car parks or at entrances?
Walking some European cities, like the centre of Amsterdam is a delight. People can walk freely, mingle, socialise and meander at wil
The car in these spaces, if it is there, is a second class citizen. These areas are for US, people, humans. Car based cities by comparis seem hostile, inhuman, we are guests there, barely belonging.
Those European cities sound totally delightful places. :)
I've been tempted to make the move to a smaller town, but alas it is difficult in my profession. I cannot really work from home, and the places I can work are in the big smoke.
When we moved, I was working remotely anyway, so no big deal.
Vk3jed wrote to Spectre <=-
That sucks. And of course, Melbourne Airport has been waiting 50 years for a train and counting...
Vk3jed wrote to boraxman <=-
It's particularly obvious in major shopping centres. Ever notice how hostile many are to pedestrians, leaving them to run the gauntlet in
car parks or at entrances?
Vk3jed wrote to Arelor <=-
I think the issue is that car dependence is embedded at all levels -
not just local streets, but also in terms of long commutes and a host
of other things. For many shorter trips, bicycles are useful, ebikes
even more so (even with the silly restrictions we have here). In
short, there's no easy solutions, it's got to the point that it will involve massive social change, along with massive infrastructure
changes.
Or an ebike :D I'm already planning on reducing my car dependence.
Out here it's impractical to elimate that, but I can dramatically
reduce car use from the current 150km/week or so to a much lower
figure, without having to cut out any activities.
Capt Kirk wrote to boraxman <=-
the U.S. is designed around the automobile, where Europe is designed around public transport.. if the transit system was at least 200%
better here, and easier to take i'd opt for that..
They're too busy walking while looking down at their phones. I worked for
On 08-11-22 23:31, boraxman wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Indeed I have. A new centre near where I live has a large carpark out
the front of the entrance, which you have to walk along the carpark to
get it. There really isn't any good way to get into it from the road.
It looks like a massive box in the middle of the carpark. There really isn't anywhere for people to congregate which isn't by cars.
I compare this to the old Moonee Ponds Market, which fronted a street,
and the carpark was on the other side of the main road. There were
more accessways to it. The place wasn't an island in the middle of a
car park and it was integrated with the surrounding urban area. The
new one near my place is in the middle of nowhere. There is nothing across the road, nothing nearby, detached from everything else.
When we moved, I was working remotely anyway, so no big deal.
One design I liked, was having a town square which was pedestrian only.
Shops and restaurants would front the square, and the roads may be
behind the shops. This created an enclosed space free of cars.
On 08-09-22 12:09, poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Vk3jed wrote to Spectre <=-
That sucks. And of course, Melbourne Airport has been waiting 50 years for a train and counting...
I was so impressed that the London underground wraps right in and out
of Heathrow airport. It makes getting in and out of the town easy.
Oakland missed out on the opportunity to run BART, a multi-county
elevated electric train system, into their airport. When they finally built a shuttle system to get people from the nearest BART station to
the airport, they freaked out when they realized that people would park
at a BART station and leave their cars overnight for free.
Not well thought out.
On 08-11-22 07:36, poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Vk3jed <=-
They're too busy walking while looking down at their phones. I worked
for a large internet company, and their parking lot didn't have
dedicated pedestrian areas. You had to walk behind the cars in the
lanes to get to work.
More times than I could count, someone was walking in traffic, not
paying attention, not hearing my car on electric and almost walked into
my car.
I'm glad I'd never had that happen, because I'm sure they'd claim I'd
hit them, although I was at a dead stop. I would have appreciated a
dash cam then.
On 08-11-22 07:50, poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Vk3jed <=-
The number of transit systems and plans torn out in the 60s to make way for the auto boom is depressing. In the bay area, there was a rail
system that ran from San Francisco across the bay to Oakland and the
east bay that was torn out partly through the influence of big oil and
the automakers.
They ended up building a similar system years later.
I want a moped to relive my high-school years, but I'd need to lose
about a hundred pounds. :)
On 08-11-22 23:17, boraxman wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
In Australia, or at least the part I live in, this kind of move seems
less popular. Some people are moving to regional areas but we don't
move as much as people in the USA do. Some nearby towns have become "trendy" but those near Melbourne don't seem all that appealing.
On 08-11-22 07:54, poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Capt Kirk <=-
I went to school and spent the next 10 years in San Francisco, and I
could have done it very nicely without a car. In SF you could get
anywhere you needed to go 24/7, they have a nice prime-time
metro/trolley system, a region-wide elevated train system, and a traditional train route that runs down the peninsula into Silicon
Valley.
Drinking with friends usually involved picking one of the trolley lines and visiting a couple of bars along the route. I, fortuitously, lived
at the end of one of the lines, right along the beach.
The number of transit systems and plans torn out in the 60s to make way for the auto boom is depressing. In the bay area, there was a rail
system that ran from San Francisco across the bay to Oakland and the
east bay that was torn out partly through the influence of big oil and the automakers.
Yep, that seems to be the norm for major shopping malls.
I compare this to the old Moonee Ponds Market, which fronted a street and the carpark was on the other side of the main road. There were more accessways to it. The place wasn't an island in the middle of a car park and it was integrated with the surrounding urban area. The new one near my place is in the middle of nowhere. There is nothing across the road, nothing nearby, detached from everything else.
Strip centres in general are better, some parking in the street, and the major car parks tend to be behind the shops with either rear access or walk along the street. Pedestrians simply walk along the street (maybe after getting off public transport) and into the shop of their choice.
I have seen places like that, or if there is a road, it's only for emergency and essential service vehicles, not general traffic.
Come out here to Bendigo then. COVID accelerated a pre-existing trend
of tree changers moving out here (guilty as charged, we arrived in
2010). But these days, try getting a rental or buying a house. The market is tight. At one stage, houses literally sold within hours of being listed, if not before, and when we bought our land, we just had to jump on the first block we could, because any hesitation and they sold.
BORAXMAN(21:1/101) wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-And its going to cost SOOOO much money to correct the mistakes.
The 1950's and 1960's was really a bad period in terms of urban design
and planning. A lot of things in that era were done wrong, mistakes we are living with today.
Is the All You Can Eat Pizza Hut still there?
On 08-13-22 00:05, boraxman wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Strip centres in general are better, some parking in the street, and the major car parks tend to be behind the shops with either rear access or walk along the street. Pedestrians simply walk along the street (maybe after getting off public transport) and into the shop of their choice.
They do work better, as do "malls" between two roads or streets, though neither of these are really places for people to linger. Ballarat has
a nice mall, I can't remember the name, but its near Bakery Hill.
Wide, no cars, quiet, parking nearby.
I used to live on a block where the middle of the block (it was a large block) was a relatively large piece of grassland with a kids park in
the middle. A few blocks in this suburb was like this. I always
though that instead of having the houses face the streets, they should face the interior of the block, the grassland, with the street being at the "back" of the house. That way, everyones front yard opens on to
this grassland. Every house then faces a courtyard of sorts, but the streets you use to access them aren't a pointless cul-de-sac. It was a nice idea, to have these open areas, but having at the back of the
houses, and not having them well maintained meant it was a lost opportunity.
On 08-13-22 00:09, boraxman wrote to Vk3jed <=-
I don't mind Bendigo, though with a tight housing market, the incentive isn't there. My wife and I have discussed moving, but for the price of housing here in Australia, we may as well look overseas.
Is the All You Can Eat Pizza Hut still there?
Is the All You Can Eat Pizza Hut still there?
Are there any Pizza Huts anywhere? I thought they had joined the dodo. :)
Spec
They do work better, as do "malls" between two roads or streets, thou neither of these are really places for people to linger. Ballarat ha a nice mall, I can't remember the name, but its near Bakery Hill. Wide, no cars, quiet, parking nearby.
I'm not familiar with that mall.
I used to live on a block where the middle of the block (it was a lar block) was a relatively large piece of grassland with a kids park in the middle. A few blocks in this suburb was like this. I always though that instead of having the houses face the streets, they shoul face the interior of the block, the grassland, with the street being the "back" of the house. That way, everyones front yard opens on to this grassland. Every house then faces a courtyard of sorts, but th streets you use to access them aren't a pointless cul-de-sac. It was nice idea, to have these open areas, but having at the back of the houses, and not having them well maintained meant it was a lost opportunity.
It's a shame that it wasn't utilised as well as it could have been, because those enclosed courtyards encourage residents, especially those with kids, to mingle in a safe space.
Ballarat has a nice mall, I can't remember the name, but its near
Bakery Hill. Wide, no cars, quiet, parking nearby.
Are there any Pizza Huts anywhere? I thought they had joined the dodo. :)
There are a lot of them in my area.. I didn't think they had gone anywhere.
Yeah, I think we still have Pizza Huts around too. Dont use them that much, but now that I think about it, the last time I was in Target they have a little Pizza Hut counter in there. I dont usually get the pizza
but I always have time for a few of their Bread Sticks.. Cant beat em'!
ironically both pizza hut and dominos are way above average nowadays
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By: Spectre to boraxman on Sat Aug 13 2022 08:06 am
Are there any Pizza Huts anywhere? I thought they had joined the dodo.
There are a lot of them in my area.. I didn't think they had gone anywhere.
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Are there any Pizza Huts anywhere? I thought they had joined the dodo.
There are a lot of them in my area.. I didn't think they had gone anywhere.
There are a lot of them in my area.. I didn't think they had gone anywhere.
Woah, wonder where you are, I don't think I've seen one in 30
years....
There are a lot of them in my area.. I didn't think they had gone anywhere.
Woah, wonder where you are, I don't think I've seen one in 30 years....
There's a lot of them all over Canada as well. Though in recent years they've got to a smaller take-out only form factor instead of the traditional dine-in restaurant. We do still have one dine-in
location here in my city
As Dominos arrived Pizza Hut held the bulk of the market, and decided Dominos would dry up and blow away. Whatever Dominos did though they eventually took mose of the delivery business too.
On 08-13-22 21:16, boraxman wrote to Vk3jed <=-
I don't know the name of it, but I know its near a Woolworths on the
Baker Hill side of the town centre.
The person who came up with the idea probably had grand ideas of how it would be used, but when it came to be built, they just built larger blocks, and left the bit between the houses (which behind my old place
was large, enough to fit another 10-20 houses in) just empty grassland.
There were also larger nature strips, I'm not sure why.
It could have been an opportunity for novel design, for something different, but in the end it just became the standard surburban design
but with empty spaces.
Are there any Pizza Huts anywhere? I thought they had joined the
dodo.
There are a lot of them in my area.. I didn't think they had gone
anywhere.
Woah, wonder where you are, I don't think I've seen one in 30 years....
ironically both pizza hut and dominos are way above average nowadays
Dominos would dry up and blow away. Whatever Dominos did though they eventually took mose of the delivery business too. A couple of years
down the track and Pizza Hut was pretty much gone in Victoria.
On 08-15-22 08:45, Nightfox wrote to fusion <=-
I don't know about that.. Neither of them are among my favorite pizza places, but last time I had Pizza Hut, I thought it wasn't bad.
We've got lots of Italians who can make a great pizza. Pizza Hut and Dominoes are OK, but I prefer the independent family owned shops.
On 08-17-22 21:54, Spectre wrote to Vk3jed <=-
While I'm also inclined to back the family store, the local one to my mother's old place, was run by, I'm guessing some kind of eastern europeans. By the time Pizza was a big thing, I'm not so sure to many italians were still in that kind of market.
Going back further, there used to be plenty of Italian fish and chipperies, but they gradually turned Greek and eventually asian. You
can still find the odd Italian but they're much fewer and further
between. Not sure now, its been a bit, but there used to be a good one still in Huntingdale. Most of the old local fish and chip/arcade
setups are completely gone now.
I've seen a mix of Italian and Middle Eastern pizza shop owners.
Never had Italian fish and chip shops. They were majority Greek when I was a kid, but the Asians are probably more prolific now. And yes, the fish
The idea of a middle eastern pizza shop is interesting. And in my area,
I know of at least one Indian restaurant that also serves pizza.
like the tandoori pizza.
Been stuck on Indian food lately. I didnt know they made a tandoori
pizza. Will be something I am looking out for now!
Been stuck on Indian food lately. I didnt know they made a tandoori
pizza. Will be something I am looking out for now!
Same on all counts. Indian food has become an obsession.
Nightfox wrote to esc <=-
Been stuck on Indian food lately. I didnt know they made a tandoori
pizza. Will be something I am looking out for now!
Same on all counts. Indian food has become an obsession.
I really like Indian food, but I've found that it can be hit or
miss, depending on who made it or where I got it from. There are
some Indian restaurants in my area I really like, and some I
don't like so much. Some places make it very spicy, and/or use
spices and flavors that I think leave a weird aftertaste. And I
generally prefer to taste the flavors of the food rather than
have it be really spicy hot.
On 08-18-22 09:03, Nightfox wrote to Vk3jed <=-
The idea of a middle eastern pizza shop is interesting. And in my
area, I know of at least one Indian restaurant that also serves pizza.
Interesting. I haven't seen a Greek restaurant here serve fish & chips. Most of the time, when I've seen fish & chips here, the restaurant is usually an American restaurant (i.e. Red Robin) or a bar/pub, and some fast food restaurants here have fish & chips too.
On 08-19-22 06:57, Irish_Monk wrote to StormTrooper <=-
like the tandoori pizza.
Been stuck on Indian food lately. I didnt know they made a tandoori
pizza. Will be something I am looking out for now!
esc wrote to Irish_Monk <=-
Same on all counts. Indian food has become an obsession.
I found some seasoning called "balti seasoning" that's a mixture of
curry, cumin, paprika and some other spices that I've been tossing into it, and love the combination of stewed veggies and curry.
I've been making vegetable stews for lunches during the week; I'll
usually take a half an onion, carrots and corn, sautee it in the bottom of a pot with olive oil. When the onion starts to sweat, add garlic, frozen vegetables (kale or spinach), garbanzo or black beans, and vegetable broth to cover it all. Bring to a boil then simmer until it thickens.
I found some seasoning called "balti seasoning" that's a mixture of
curry, cumin, paprika and some other spices that I've been tossing into it, and love the combination of stewed veggies and curry.
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