Hello All,

g00r00 posted in MYSTIC that there is a new prealpha up at mysticbbs.com.

I only passed one message through it so far but it looks good to me.

Messages from a pkt with long lines look good in Mystic when reading and replying and outgoing .pkt's look good.

I think this prealpha is looking good but more testing is needed.

This is a big change and there may be any number of other details to be sorted yet.

Ttyl :-),
Al

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On 13 Apr 2020, Al said the following...

I think this prealpha is looking good but more testing is needed.

OK Al

NET 1 updated to v1.12 A46 Windows/32 Compiled 2020/04/13 14:57:58

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Hello Avon,

I think this prealpha is looking good but more testing is needed.

NET 1 updated to v1.12 A46 Windows/32 Compiled 2020/04/13 14:57:58

Once I see hub 4 is updated I'll drop a little text file in here.

Ttyl :-),
Al

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Avon wrote (2020-04-14):

On 13 Apr 2020, Al said the following...

I think this prealpha is looking good but more testing is needed.

OK Al

NET 1 updated to v1.12 A46 Windows/32 Compiled 2020/04/13 14:57:58

copy'n'pasting some text for testing:

The Yes Men are back. Early this morning, the pair of pranksters and their henchpeople hit the streets of Manhattan to hand out copies of a climate change-themed New York Post spoof with the blaring headline: “WE’RE SCREWED.” The cover story explains, “It’s official. It’s getting hot down here. And if we don’t stop burning oil and coal, the Big Apple will be cooked.”

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On 14 Apr 2020 at 10:06a, Oli pondered and said...

@PATH: 3/102 100 1/100
copy'n'pasting some text for testing:

The Yes Men are back. Early this morning, the pair of pranksters and
their henchpeople hit the streets of Manhattan to hand out copies of a climate change-themed New York Post spoof with the blaring headline: “WE’RE SCREWED.” The cover story explains, “It’s official. It’s getting hot down here. And if we don’t stop burning oil and
coal, the Big Apple will be cooked.”

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On 14 Apr 2020 at 10:06a, Oli pondered and said...

@PATH: 3/102 100 2/100 1/100
copy'n'pasting some text for testing:

The Yes Men are back. Early this morning, the pair of pranksters and
their henchpeople hit the streets of Manhattan to hand out copies of a climate change-themed New York Post spoof with the blaring headline: “WE’RE SCREWED.” The cover story explain
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Avon wrote (2020-04-14):

On 14 Apr 2020 at 10:06a, Oli pondered and said...

@PATH: 3/102 100 1/100
copy'n'pasting some text for testing:

The Yes Men are back. Early this morning, the pair of pranksters and
their henchpeople hit the streets of Manhattan to hand out copies
of a climate change-themed New York Post spoof with the blaring
headline: GammÇ£WEGammÇÖRE SCREWED.GammÇ¥ The cover story explains,
GammÇ£ItGammÇÖs official. ItGammÇÖs getting hot down here. And if
we donGammÇÖt stop burning oil and coal, the Big Apple will be
cooked.Gammǥ

Cool, no more truncation.

I wonder where the GammC is coming from. Maybe it's locally on my machine.

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Hello Avon,

On 14 Apr 2020 at 10:06a, Oli pondered and said...

@PATH: 3/102 100 1/100
copy'n'pasting some text for testing:

The Yes Men are back. Early this morning, the pair of pranksters
and their henchpeople hit the streets of Manhattan to hand out
copies of a climate change-themed New York Post spoof with the
blaring headline: “WE’RE SCREWED.” The cover story
explains, “It’s official. It’s getting hot down here. And
if we don’t stop burning oil and coal, the Big Apple will be
cooked.”

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This one looks intact. The next one was through 2/100 and was cut off.

Was the one via 2/100 in your FSX_NET msg area or the dupe base?

Ttyl :-),
Al

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Oli wrote to Avon <=-

The Yes Men are back. Early this morning, the pair of pranksters and
their henchpeople hit the streets of Manhattan to hand out copies of a climate change-themed New York Post spoof with the blaring headline: “WE’RE SCREWED.” The cover story explains, “It’s official. It’s getting hot down here. And if we don’t stop burning oil and
coal, the Big Apple will be cooked.”

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Blue wrote (2020-04-14):

Oli wrote to Avon <=-

The Yes Men are back. Early this morning, the pair of pranksters and
their henchpeople hit the streets of Manhattan to hand out copies
of a climate change-themed New York Post spoof with the blaring
headline: GammÇ£WEGammÇÖRE SCREWED.GammÇ¥ The cover story explains,
GammÇ£ItGammÇÖs official. ItGammÇÖs getting hot down here. And if
we donGammÇÖt stop burning oil and coal, the Big Apple will be
cooked.Gammǥ

That happens if Mystic doesn't set the CHRS kludge for a quoted UTF-8 mail, jamnntpd reads the mail as CP437, converts it to ISO 8859-1 and the newsreader has to deal with unexpected characters. Or something like this.

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Hello Oli,

That happens if Mystic doesn't set the CHRS kludge for a quoted UTF-8 mail, jamnntpd reads the mail as CP437, converts it to ISO 8859-1 and
the newsreader has to deal with unexpected characters. Or something
like this.

If we could drop all this CHRS this, CHRS that and just go with UTF-8 this would all be some much simpler.

Ttyl :-),
Al

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Al wrote (2020-04-14):

Hello Oli,

That happens if Mystic doesn't set the CHRS kludge for a quoted
UTF-8 mail, jamnntpd reads the mail as CP437, converts it to ISO
8859-1 and the newsreader has to deal with unexpected characters.
Or something like this.

If we could drop all this CHRS this, CHRS that and just go with UTF-8
this would all be some much simpler.

OK, now my messages are always UTF-8 and my jamnntpd assumes UTF-8, if no CHRS is set. I'm not sure that it works well, but let's try.

But what about older software that cannot display UTF-8 properly? Like

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The charset translation configuration in some fidonet software is scary stuff ...

P.S.: If we want simplify things, how about using UTC for the date/time field? ;)

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On 15 Apr 2020, Oli said the following...

But what about older software that cannot display UTF-8 properly? Like

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Yep, maybe we should just hang on a bit? ;)

Ttyl :-),
Al

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Oli wrote to Blue White <=-

That happens if Mystic doesn't set the CHRS kludge for a quoted UTF-8 mail, jamnntpd reads the mail as CP437, converts it to ISO 8859-1 and
the newsreader has to deal with unexpected characters. Or something
like this.

I was actually just quoting it back so you'd know it made it through.
Also, I am not running mystic, but nodes between you and I are.


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Blue wrote (2020-04-15):

Oli wrote to Blue White <=-

That happens if Mystic doesn't set the CHRS kludge for a quoted
UTF-8 mail, jamnntpd reads the mail as CP437, converts it to ISO
8859-1 and the newsreader has to deal with unexpected characters.
Or something like this.

I was actually just quoting it back so you'd know it made it through. Also, I am not running mystic, but nodes between you and I are.

You are right, that had nothing to do with Mystic. I received your quoted message with "CHRS: CP437 2" and my Newsreader displayed that weird Gamma?? stuff. I thought you saw that too, but I guess it looked fine in your reader. I




















































































































































































































































































have no idea how charset stuff works with QWK and Multimail.

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