Re: Re: what are you dialing in with?
By: mary4 to maple on Fri Jun 21 2024 05:04 am

what i am diling up with??
a fucking 10MHz 286 AST Premium/286 model 80 machine! i recently got at

Fucking? :P

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u got a 286 system u love too? :D?
i LOVE my 286 systems! <3

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Long live the Amiga :)
Currently own an Amiga 1200 & 600

i finally saw the nice amigas! i appreciate them as they are mega cool machines! :D

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I think the things that made the Amiga so incredible at its time were the special purpose chips for sound, blitting, graphics, etc - they really enabled new and wonderful things. Nowadays we almost have too much grunt to know what to do with it, everything runs in "true colour" modes, high quality sound is standard... I'm not sure where you could differentiate for capabilities.

But then, I guess that's the point - not many people could have imagined the Amiga's capabilities when it came out.

I would say if we "squeezed the juice" out of modern hardware like we
did back in those days it could be something spectacular. Though it
would probably not be a "wow, look at those graphics" spectacle, more a "look how quick my 400 browser tabs open" spectacle :)

DUDE THE AMIGA IS FUCKING AMAZING! THOSE GRAPHICS! D A T SOUND! THAT MULTIMEDIA SYSTEM!

im just on a regular ass 286 xD

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Fucking? :P

lol! XD

--mary4 (Victoria Crenshaw) the 286 enthusiast

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a fucking 10MHz 286 AST Premium/286 model 80 machine! i recently got at VCF SW!~ for 150$ :D i also have a 20 MHz 286 comming in today and i am excited for it :D i am so excited!!

hell yeah!! i love it when people give new life to these old machines

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what i am diling up with?? a fucking 10MHz 286 AST Premium/286

Fucking? :P

Early low res porn model.


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Hi Nightfox,

On Saturday June 15 2024, Nightfox said to Vorlon:

that function for it to work. A touch screen is great for people that
have a adverse condition to a mouse, or health issues... Not so much
fun when a bug decides to walk or fly into the screen though...

The touch screen interface is probably what most people use on a device like an iPhone or other smartphone though. One time I plugged a USB

[..]

Also I've never had any bugs fly onto my smartphone screen..

I've not had that issue with a phone, but I have a 23" HP ALL in one...
How did I find out it has a touch screen? A bug flew into it and the system went nuts with it touching the screen. (The system was fron a client, so I didn't know it had touch support).


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Nightfox wrote to mary4 <=-

what i am diling up with??
a fucking 10MHz 286 AST Premium/286 model 80 machine! i recently got at

Fucking? :P

They were a Dutch manufacturer of PCs in the late '80s.



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hell yeah!! i love it when people give new life to these old machines

fuck yeah! <3 i installed FreeDOS on it! took 4 hours to install it xD
it is a great lil OS!

--mary4 (Victoria Crenshaw) the 286 enthusiast

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Early low res porn model.

lol!!! xD its a model 80

--mary4 (Victoria Crenshaw) the 286 enthusiast

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They were a Dutch manufacturer of PCs in the late '80s.

whaa!? xD

--mary4 (Victoria Crenshaw) the 286 enthusiast

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curious what everybody is dialing in to chat with on these boards, for those doing it on retro hardware :)

over here i have an Amiga 600 + ACA620 accelerator online with an Orinoco
Gold card, Prism2 drivers under AmiTCP and DCTelnet for a terminal
not *exactly* how it would've been done in the day, but hey, it works :P

i'm hoping to build an ESP8266 wi-fi modem for my 500 eventually to dial with that too

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curious what everybody is dialing in to chat with on these boards, for those doing it on retro hardware :)

I'm using a 20Mhz 286 clone build. Got a 3com 3c509 network card & am currently using Procomm Plus on Windows 3.11 as my telnet client. Currently I'm experimenting with DOS serial port based comms software with a lantronix serial port to ethernet device. The windows setup is functional but a bit slow so playing with dos based software ATM to see what it's like.

over here i have an Amiga 600 + ACA620 accelerator online with an Orinoco Gold card, Prism2 drivers under AmiTCP and DCTelnet for a terminal
not *exactly* how it would've been done in the day, but hey, it works :P

Nice! Never got to play with an Amiga back in the day so don't know much about them. How well does you setup work? Was it difficult to setup?

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i'm hoping to build an ESP8266 wi-fi modem for my 500 eventually to dial with that too

Sounds interesting, let us know how that works out and how you get it working with your amiga.

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curious what everybody is dialing in to chat with on these boards, for those doing it on retro hardware :)

For the most part, SyncTERM on the regular daily drive. I'm in the process
of sorting out the pooty room, having just got some benches installed, I
expect to be running with the IIgs again soon. Usually I serial it to a Raspi and telnet from there, but have also whipped up a couple of Wi-Modems in the past. I think I still have makings for one here.. should give it a belt again... had trouble with serial converters at one stage though.

On the II be it an e, c or gs the usual terminal software is ProTerm if text
is good enough. Its ANSI/VT100 is usually not solid enough for games though. AGATE on a c or e will give better ANSI emulation thats all its designed to
do, but processing limitations will leave you at ~9600 otherwise you'll get over runs particularly on dense pages. This is in glorious b&w the only way
to get enough screen resolution to have 80chrs. The GS will also give you MegaTerm which while still hamstrung by available resolution does give colour and a pretty good rendering of most pages, again limited to ~9600 for the
same reason rendering takes to long.


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Nice! Never got to play with an Amiga back in the day so don't know much about them. How well does you setup work? Was it difficult to setup?

it's pretty good, the whole Workbench experience is a little cryptic at worst having to dig around in old forums sometimes with bitrotten links to try to figure out how things work, but beyond that it's not too difficult once you
get the hang of it. i'm sure it would've been more intuitive if i had grown
up with it instead of Windows machines around the same time.

the part setting up a wi-fi card and TCP stack, you just need to find the
right combination of hardware and software. the Orinoco Gold card which has
the supported chipset i found on eBay for about 15 quid and it was, of all other things in my Amiga, the one that worked first try. really surprised me

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it's pretty good, the whole Workbench experience is a little cryptic at worst having to dig around in old forums sometimes with bitrotten links
to try to figure out how things work, but beyond that it's not too

Oh how I feel your pain! Getting my 286 setup and going has been similarly frustrating, unfortunately a lot of the pages that contain the knowledge and software four our favorite retro PC are slowly rotting away. I've had my share of frustration, having found a link to something interesting in a VCFed forum only to discover it's dead. Seem to be lots of zombie websites with dead links as well.

difficult once you get the hang of it. i'm sure it would've been more intuitive if i had grown up with it instead of Windows machines around
the same time.

So what drew you to the Amiga then if don't mind me asking? I've gone the retro 286 PC route because that is the first computer my family had, what's your interest & what cool things are you planning to do/try with it?

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Hey maple,

It's fuzion here btw, this is my standard user test account. ;)

Great to see someone using the echomail feeds on our board, things have been
a little quiet from our end recently.

curious what everybody is dialing in to chat with on these boards, for those doing it on retro hardware :)

I use a few different clients to mix things up a bit but my goto's are:

SyncTERM and occasionally NetRunner v2.oo on the PC
DCTelnet 1.6 via WinUAE (my A600 needs a psu project finishing)

also DCTelnet via PiMiga on my RPi.


I much prefer using DCTelnet for the authenticity (as we are an Amiga orientated board using Topaz font after all) but I use SyncTerm for any
back door tweaking and maintenance that needs doing.

Cheers!

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So what drew you to the Amiga then if don't mind me asking?

due to a few factors we never had any of the latest and greatest, so my computers were always a couple of generations behind the curve. some may
think i was too young to have grown with WfW3.11 but that and DOS were where
i cut my teeth :)

in general, i attribute my affinity for older hardware to that. i like to
make the most out of things that are meant to be obsolete.

Amiga computers were never popular where i lived due to import prices, we
had Apple clones and MSX, i managed to get this 600 in 2007 in a very, very poor condition. it took me about a decade of repairs to get it to full
working order it is today. i just really enjoy giving these machines new life

by trade my interests netted me low level embedded software engineering jobs
so i have little to complain about :)

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Re: what are you dialing in with?
By: maple to All on Sat Jun 08 2024 22:28:18

Hi, Maple.

curious what everybody is dialing in to chat with on these boards, for those doing it on retro hardware :)

At this precise moment, I'm dialed in on an Acorn A3020 - ARM 250, 2MB RAM. Using terminal software I made / am still working on for the job as I didn't like the existing stuff I could get up and running :)

i'm hoping to build an ESP8266 wi-fi modem for my 500 eventually to dial with that too

Same - I bought a few since they're so cheap. Lucky, really, as I blew the first ESP up (grounded pins while in use) and one of the MAX232s died on me, so spares came in handy!

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Long live the Amiga :)
Currently own an Amiga 1200 & 600

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Re: Re: what are you dialing in with?
By: klunk to maple on Mon Jun 10 2024 10:39 pm

Long live the Amiga :)
Currently own an Amiga 1200 & 600

If Amiga had come out as the most popular computer (rather than IBM PC compatibles), I wonder what a modern Amiga would be like..

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I use modern (well five-year-old macintosh) computers and telnet to
connect- but it's to my BBS which is run on a 68k Macintosh (Q800)
running the Subtext BBS so that counts as retro.

Every once in a while I'll use an Atari 800 or Apple IIc to test something
I help with the Fujinet Project (fujinet.online) which connects
an ESP32 based board to 8bits for network disk access as well as
standard 'comms' via wifi. Still connect to my Mac's BBS.

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If Amiga had come out as the most popular computer (rather than IBM PC compatibles), I wonder what a modern Amiga would be like..

Like a modern PC? In essence all roads lead to Rome as they say.


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Re: Re: what are you dialing in with?
By: Spectre to Nightfox on Wed Jun 12 2024 01:52:00

If Amiga had come out as the most popular computer (rather than IBM PC compatibles), I wonder what a modern Amiga would be like..

Like a modern PC? In essence all roads lead to Rome as they say.

Yup, that was going to be my suggestion. We currently have x86, ARM and a bunch of other options for hardware, running Windows, Linux, MacOS, iOS, Android... controversially I'm going to say the user experience isn't hugely different across the board, for casual users at least.

I think the things that made the Amiga so incredible at its time were the special purpose chips for sound, blitting, graphics, etc - they really enabled new and wonderful things. Nowadays we almost have too much grunt to know what to do with it, everything runs in "true colour" modes, high quality sound is standard... I'm not sure where you could differentiate for capabilities.

But then, I guess that's the point - not many people could have imagined the Amiga's capabilities when it came out.

I would say if we "squeezed the juice" out of modern hardware like we did back in those days it could be something spectacular. Though it would probably not be a "wow, look at those graphics" spectacle, more a "look how quick my 400 browser tabs open" spectacle :)

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Hi Maple,

On Saturday June 08 2024, Maple said to All:

over here i have an Amiga 600 + ACA620 accelerator online with an
Orinoco Gold card, Prism2 drivers under AmiTCP and DCTelnet for a
terminal not *exactly* how it would've been done in the day, but hey, it works :P

DCTelnet is about the best telnet client for the Amiga... Normal terminal programs can also work with tools like telser, but they add a extra layer of issues.

PCMCIA network cards are trickey on the Amiga. Some should work, but they
dont. I have a 3Com based 3C562D/3C563D Etherlink III, also a WIFI card
(From Amigakit, can't remember the make). That I use in my A1200.



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Stephen

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Hi Maple,

On Sunday June 09 2024, Maple said to kirkspragg:

it's pretty good, the whole Workbench experience is a little cryptic at worst having to dig around in old forums sometimes with bitrotten links
to try to figure out how things work, but beyond that it's not too difficult once you get the hang of it. i'm sure it would've been more intuitive if i had grown up with it instead of Windows machines around
the same time.

Some tips for working with workbenck:

Left Amiga key + M/N: Switch between the current running full sceen
programs.

Install "MagigMenu", to allow the top workbench menu's to appear where ever
you right click.

The right most "box" on a open folder will switch it between a folder under
it or bring it to the front.

The box to the left of the one above will shrink the open folder.

To have workbench remember the layout/size of a window/folder. Right click
on workbench menu, and then choose "Snapshot->All" will save the
layout/size.


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Stephen

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Re: Re: what are you dialing in with?
By: Spectre to Nightfox on Wed Jun 12 2024 01:52 am

If Amiga had come out as the most popular computer (rather than IBM PC
compatibles), I wonder what a modern Amiga would be like..

Like a modern PC? In essence all roads lead to Rome as they say.

True, though I was thinking of specifics. Amiga was ahead of its time, so I was thinking it might be interesting to see where they'd be today if they came out on top. It might be interesting to see AmigaOS rather than Windows, and where the hardware might be today, and if there would be as big of an industry of selling PC parts for people who like to build their own computer, etc..

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